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Daily Mirror
06-05-2025
- Entertainment
- Daily Mirror
Prince Harry and Meghan Markle snubbed rare royal title for Archie over one 'fear'
The Duke and Duchess of Sussex's first-born child Prince Archie turns six today, but he would have been given a special title had it not been for one issue that "bothered" his parents The Duke and Duchess of Sussex, Prince Harry and Meghan Markle, reportedly declined to give a rare royal title to their son Prince Archie due to worries about potential bullying or unfortunate nicknames. Prince Archie, who is celebrating his sixth birthday today, was nearly given the title of Earl of Dumbarton, a title that has been dormant since the mid-1700s. However, an insider revealed that both Prince Harry and Meghan Markle were hesitant to use the Scottish noble title, fearing it could lead to mockery and name-calling. Speaking to The Telegraph, an insider claimed: "They didn't like the idea of Archie being called the Earl of Dumbarton because it began with the word 'dumb' [and] they were worried about how that might look." Another source added: "It wasn't just Meghan who pointed out the potential pitfalls, it also bothered Harry." The Collins Dictionary defines 'dumb' as an adjective used to describe someone who is "stupid or foolish". The Earl of Dumbarton title was first established in the Peerage of Scotland in March 1675. It was given to George Douglas, son of the Marquess of Douglas and younger brother of the Earl of Selkirk, in recognition of his service during the Franco-Dutch War, reports the Express. Lord Dumbarton was also known as Lord Douglas of Ettrick. He was married to Anne Douglas, the first Countess of Dumbarton, who was the sister of Catherine Fitzroy, Duchess of Northumberland. After the death of their only son, the unmarried second Earl, both titles became extinct in January 1749. The title would not see the light of day until May 2018 – 269 years and four months later – when the late Queen Elizabeth II revived it as one of the two subsidiary titles for Prince Harry when he married Meghan. However, when the couple stepped back from their Royal duties, they agreed to stop using the HRH (Her/His Royal Highness) title, but retained their titles as the Duke and Duchess of Sussex. The couple lost the use of these titles when they ceased being working royals in 2020 and relocated first to Canada, then to the US. While the agreement didn't strip them of their titles, it did limit how they could be used. Talk about their titles came as Meghan recently came under fire for using her HRH title to give gifts to an American businesswoman. During an appearance on the Jamie Kern Lima podcast, the Duchess was seen to give her host a gift basket with a card adorning the words: "With Compliments of HRH The Duchess of Sussex" – a move which was dismissed by Royal experts as "pompous". Jamie revealed that Meghan had lifted her spirits during a stressful period by delivering some ice cream and "home made strawberry sauce".
Daily Record
06-05-2025
- Entertainment
- Daily Record
Heartbreaking reason why Harry and Meghan ditched rare Scottish title for son Archie
Young Prince Archie celebrates his sixth birthday today and he would have been known by another noble name, were it not for a heartbreaking reason, which reportedly left his parents concerned The Duke and Duchess of Sussex turned down the a Scottish title for their son, Prince Archie, due to concerns he might be subject to bullying or unfortunate nicknames. The young prince, who is celebrating his sixth birthday today, was almost named the Earl of Dumbarton, a title which has not been used since the mid-1700s. However, a source claimed that both Prince Harry and Meghan Markle balked at the prospect of using the title of Scottish nobility over fears it could be a source of ridicule and name-calling. The insider told The Telegraph: "They didn't like the idea of Archie being called the Earl of Dumbarton because it began with the word 'dumb' [and] they were worried about how that might look." Another insider commented: "It wasn't just Meghan who pointed out the potential pitfalls, it also bothered Harry." The Collins Dictionary defines 'dumb' as an adjective meaning: "If you call a person dumb, you mean that they are stupid or foolish." The title Earl of Dumbarton was initially established in the Peerage of Scotland in March 1675 for George Douglas, the Marquess of Douglas's son and the Earl of Selkirk's younger brother, in recognition of his military service during the Franco-Dutch War. Lord Dumbarton also held the title Lord Douglas of Ettrick. He was married to Anne Douglas, the inaugural Countess of Dumbarton, who was Catherine Fitzroy, Duchess of Northumberland's sister. After the death of their sole child, the second Earl who died unmarried, both titles ceased to exist in January 1749. It would not be until May 2018 – 269 years and four months later – that the honour would be resurrected in the UK Peerage by the late Queen Elizabeth II as one of two subsidiary titles bestowed to Harry when he married Meghan. However, when the couple renounced their roles as senior royals, there was a consensus to cease using HRH, which denotes Her/His Royal Highness. However, they continue to carry the titles the Duke and Duchess of Sussex. The pair were stripped of the HRH designations upon relinquishing their duties as working royals in 2020, leading them to leave Britain, initially for Canada before settling in the US. Although their titles remain intact, the usage has been curtailed. This topic is currently a point of contention, particularly about Meghan's private implementation of the HRH title, evidenced during her exchange with an American entrepreneur. The Duchess was accused of being "crass" when, during a podcast hosted by Jamie Kern Lima, she offered a gift basket to the host with a card bearing the words "With Compliments of HRH The Duchess of Sussex". According to Jamie, she was "super-stressed" when Meghan brightened her day with a surprise visit, bringing along ice cream and "home made strawberry sauce".
Edinburgh Live
06-05-2025
- General
- Edinburgh Live
Prince Harry and Meghan Markle 'rejected' Scottish title for Archie due to major 'worry'
Our community members are treated to special offers, promotions and adverts from us and our partners. You can check out at any time. More info Prince Harry and wife Meghan Markle opted not to bestow a Scottish title upon Prince Archie amid concerns he might be subjected to bullying or earn unkind nicknames. Their first child, who celebrates his sixth birthday today, would have been known as the Earl of Dumbarton, but his parents rejected this title of Scottish nobility, according to a source. Speaking to The Telegraph, an insider claimed: "They didn't like the idea of Archie being called the Earl of Dumbarton because it began with the word 'dumb' [and] they were worried about how that might look." Moreover, a different source noted: "It wasn't just Meghan who pointed out the potential pitfalls, it also bothered Harry." The Collins Dictionary noted one meaning of the adjective 'dumb' as: "If you call a person dumb, you mean that they are stupid or foolish." Originally created in March 1675 during the Peerage of Scotland for George Douglas, son of the Marquess of Douglas and brother to the Earl of Selkirk, the title Earl of Dumbarton was awarded for his role in the Franco-Dutch War. Lord Dumbarton additionally held the title Lord Douglas of Ettrick. He married Anne Douglas, the initial Countess of Dumbarton, whose sister Catherine Fitzroy was the Duchess of Northumberland. With the passing of their sole child, the single second Earl, both titles lapsed into extinction by January 1749. In the current UK Peerage, the late Queen Elizabeth II recreated the title as one of two subsidiary honours given to her grandson upon his marriage to Meghan in May 2018. When the Sussexes decided to step back from their Royal duties, they agreed to cease using the HRH (Her/His Royal Highness) prefix, although they still retain their titles as the Duke and Duchess of Sussex. Upon their departure from Royal duties in 2020 and subsequent move to California, Harry and Meghan lost the privilege of using these titles. While the agreement hasn't stripped them of their titles, it has limited their usage. This comes amid public scrutiny over Meghan's private use of the HRH title, particularly when she gifted items to an American businesswoman. Meghan's card bearing the HRH title was displayed in a video of a podcast hosted by Jamie Kern Lima, who said that during a time when she was "super-stressed", Meghan had lifted her spirits by delivering some ice cream and "home made strawberry sauce".
