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Yahoo
7 days ago
- Business
- Yahoo
Huawei's AI Scandal Just Exploded--And Investors Should Be Paying Attention
Huawei is pushing backhard. Over the weekend, its secretive Noah's Ark Lab broke from its usual silence to address accusations that its new AI model, Pangu Pro MoE, borrowed code without proper credit. The model, which runs on Huawei's own Ascend chips (their homegrown answer to Nvidia's GPUs), had its source code picked apart on GitHub, where a group dubbed HonestAGI claimed it spotted unacknowledged code fragments. That post vanished. But another one, titled Pangu's Sorrow, quickly followedalleging that Huawei's team had been under intense pressure to deliver and fell behind domestic rivals in the race. In a rare rebuttal, Huawei said it fully complied with open-source licenses and welcomed technical discussion, not speculation. This isn't just a code reviewit's a window into the internal pressure mounting inside China's AI champions. With Alibaba and DeepSeek making waves and catching investor attention, Huawei's rare public statement signals how high the stakes are becoming. The companylong a symbol of China's tech self-sufficiencynow finds itself on the defensive in one of the hottest battlegrounds: sovereign AI. The fact that Huawei had to respond at all speaks volumes. IP compliance, innovation speed, and trust are no longer soft issuesthey're table stakes in an environment where reputations are earned (or lost) in public. For global investors watching the AI value chainfrom chipmakers like Nvidia (NASDAQ:NVDA) to downstream platforms like Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA)this is another flashing signal. The game isn't just about who builds the fastest model. It's also about who's playing fair, who's shipping on time, and who's earning credibility in a world that increasingly demands transparency. As China's AI ecosystem matures, these reputational battles could become just as important as the hardware wars. This article first appeared on GuruFocus. Error while retrieving data Sign in to access your portfolio Error while retrieving data Error while retrieving data Error while retrieving data Error while retrieving data
Yahoo
07-07-2025
- Business
- Yahoo
Huawei's AI Scandal Just Exploded--And Investors Should Be Paying Attention
Huawei is pushing backhard. Over the weekend, its secretive Noah's Ark Lab broke from its usual silence to address accusations that its new AI model, Pangu Pro MoE, borrowed code without proper credit. The model, which runs on Huawei's own Ascend chips (their homegrown answer to Nvidia's GPUs), had its source code picked apart on GitHub, where a group dubbed HonestAGI claimed it spotted unacknowledged code fragments. That post vanished. But another one, titled Pangu's Sorrow, quickly followedalleging that Huawei's team had been under intense pressure to deliver and fell behind domestic rivals in the race. In a rare rebuttal, Huawei said it fully complied with open-source licenses and welcomed technical discussion, not speculation. This isn't just a code reviewit's a window into the internal pressure mounting inside China's AI champions. With Alibaba and DeepSeek making waves and catching investor attention, Huawei's rare public statement signals how high the stakes are becoming. The companylong a symbol of China's tech self-sufficiencynow finds itself on the defensive in one of the hottest battlegrounds: sovereign AI. The fact that Huawei had to respond at all speaks volumes. IP compliance, innovation speed, and trust are no longer soft issuesthey're table stakes in an environment where reputations are earned (or lost) in public. For global investors watching the AI value chainfrom chipmakers like Nvidia (NASDAQ:NVDA) to downstream platforms like Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA)this is another flashing signal. The game isn't just about who builds the fastest model. It's also about who's playing fair, who's shipping on time, and who's earning credibility in a world that increasingly demands transparency. As China's AI ecosystem matures, these reputational battles could become just as important as the hardware wars. This article first appeared on GuruFocus.
Reuters
07-07-2025
- Business
- Reuters
Huawei's AI lab denies that one of its Pangu models copied Alibaba's Qwen
BEIJING/SHANGHAI, July 7 (Reuters) - Huawei's artificial intelligence research division has rejected claims that a version of its Pangu Pro large language model has copied elements from an Alibaba ( opens new tab model, saying that it was independently developed and trained. The division, called Noah Ark Lab, issued the statement on Saturday, a day after an entity called HonestAGI posted an English-language paper on code-sharing platform Github, saying Huawei's Pangu Pro Moe (Mixture of Experts) model showed "extraordinary correlation" with Alibaba's Qwen 2.5 14B. This suggests that Huawei's model was derived through "upcycling" and was not trained from scratch, the paper said, prompting widespread discussion in AI circles online and in Chinese tech-focused media. The paper added that its findings indicated potential copyright violation, the fabrication of information in technical reports and false claims about Huawei's investment in training the model. Noah Ark Lab said in its statement that the model was "not based on incremental training of other manufacturers' models" and that it had "made key innovations in architecture design and technical features." It is the first large-scale model built entirely on Huawei's Ascend chips, it added. It also said that its development team had strictly adhered to open-source license requirements for any third-party code used, without elaborating which open-source models it took reference from. Alibaba did not immediately respond to a Reuters request for comment. Reuters was unable to contact HonestAGI or learn who is behind the entity. The release of Chinese startup DeepSeek's open-source model R1 in January this year shocked Silicon Valley with its low cost and sparked intense competition between China's tech giants to offer competitive products. Qwen 2.5-14B was released in May 2024 and is one of Alibaba's small-sized Qwen 2.5 model family which can be deployed on PC and smartphones. While Huawei entered the large language model arena early with its original Pangu release in 2021, it has since been perceived as lagging behind rivals. It open-sourced its Pangu Pro Moe models on Chinese developer platform GitCode in late June, seeking to boost the adoption of its AI tech by providing free access to developers. While Qwen is more consumer-facing and has chatbot services like ChatGPT, Huawei's Pangu models tend to be more used in government as well as the finance and manufacturing sectors.
Time of India
07-07-2025
- Business
- Time of India
Huawei's AI lab denies that one of its Pangu models copied Alibaba's Qwen
Academy Empower your mind, elevate your skills Huawei's artificial intelligence research division has rejected claims that a version of its Pangu Pro large language model has copied elements from an Alibaba model, saying that it was independently developed and division, called Noah Ark Lab , issued the statement on Saturday, a day after an entity called HonestAGI posted an English-language paper on code-sharing platform Github, saying Huawei's Pangu Pro Moe (Mixture of Experts) model showed "extraordinary correlation" with Alibaba's Qwen 2.5 suggests that Huawei's model was derived through "upcycling" and was not trained from scratch, the paper said, prompting widespread discussion in AI circles online and in Chinese tech-focused paper added that its findings indicated potential copyright violation, the fabrication of information in technical reports and false claims about Huawei's investment in training the Ark Lab said in its statement that the model was "not based on incremental training of other manufacturers' models" and that it had "made key innovations in architecture design and technical features." It is the first large-scale model built entirely on Huawei's Ascend chips, it also said that its development team had strictly adhered to open-source license requirements for any third-party code used, without elaborating which open-source models it took reference did not immediately respond to a Reuters request for comment. Reuters was unable to contact HonestAGI or learn who is behind the release of Chinese startup DeepSeek's open-source model R1 in January this year shocked Silicon Valley with its low cost and sparked intense competition between China's tech giants to offer competitive 2.5-14B was released in May 2024 and is one of Alibaba's small-sized Qwen 2.5 model family which can be deployed on PC and Huawei entered the large language model arena early with its original Pangu release in 2021, it has since been perceived as lagging behind rivals. It open-sourced its Pangu Pro Moe models on Chinese developer platform GitCode in late June, seeking to boost the adoption of its AI tech by providing free access to Qwen is more consumer-facing and has chatbot services like ChatGPT, Huawei's Pangu models tend to be more used in government as well as the finance and manufacturing sectors.
