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Three vegetable-centric recipes to make this summer
Los Angeles native and now UK-based chef Jesse Jenkins became a viral sensation when the cinematic-style cooking videos on his social media account ADIP (Another Day in Paradise) took off. His debut cookbook focusses on making vegetables the star of the show, taking influence from the flavours around the world, including Mexico, Korea and Guatemala. Advertisement Here are three of his recipes to make the most of vegetables this summer. Smashed cucumber caesar 'When the process of breaking something creates unformed beauty, it is incredibly satisfying. If it also has a practical function, I'm sold,' says Jenkins. 'The jagged texture of the cucumber here creates more surface area to grab onto sauce and toppings. I learned the technique while making oi muchim, a Korean spicy cucumber salad, and have used it ever since. This version goes full Caesar and it's totally delicious.' Ingredients (Serves 4) 3 cucumbers, washed 3tbsp panko breadcrumbs 1tbsp extra virgin olive oil 2 garlic cloves, bashed (skin on) 4 thyme sprigs Grated zest of 1 lemon Handful of chives, thinly sliced Handful of parsley, finely chopped Salt and pepper Advertisement For the dressing: 4-6 tinned anchovy fillets in oil, crushed to a paste 25g Parmesan cheese, grated with microplane grater 1 egg yolk 15g Dijon mustard Juice of 1 lemon 1tsp Worcestershire sauce 1tsp Tabasco 100ml extra virgin olive oil Method 1. Smash the whole cucumbers using the flat side of a large knife until they start to break down, then roughly chop them into uneven, large bite-sized pieces. Put them in a colander over a bowl with a good pinch of salt, mix well and set aside for 15-20 minutes. 2. Meanwhile, toast the breadcrumbs in the olive oil in a frying pan with the garlic cloves and thyme till golden brown. Remove from the heat and season with salt and the lemon zest while hot, then set aside. 3. You can make the dressing in the same way as you would a mayonnaise, putting all the ingredients other than the oil into a bowl and mixing well, then slowly streaming in all the oil, whisking constantly throughout. Otherwise, blend all the ingredients at once in a blender (I often blend it). Check for seasoning. Advertisement 4. Drain the cucumbers, then add them to the dressing with half the herbs. Mix well, then finish with the toasted breadcrumbs and the rest of the herbs. Miso-glazed courgette 'Nasu dengaku – miso-glazed aubergine – is one of my favourite dishes, and I've adapted the Japanese recipe for courgettes,' says Jenkins. 'Achieving the perfect aubergine dish usually involves deep-frying, resulting in a confit-like texture inside, which is wonderful but too indulgent for me, at least for regular consumption. 'This technique for cooking courgettes yields a similarly tender texture without the need for deep-frying. The miso glaze, traditionally made with mirin, sake and sugar, can be simplified using honey and miso for a delicious outcome. It's a great sharing dish, but we often have it in individual portions with steamed rice and carrot and ginger-dressed salad.' Ingredients (Serves 2 as a main, 4 as a side) 2 courgettes Neutral oil (I use rapeseed), for pan-frying 1tbsp white miso paste (or to taste) 1tbsp honey (or to taste) White sesame seeds Squeeze of lemon juice Salt Spring onions, trimmed and chopped, to serve Advertisement Method 1. Halve the courgettes lengthways and score each half in a crisscross pattern – you want the flavour to be able to get in there, so cut about halfway through. Season them with salt, rubbing it into the cuts thoroughly, then place them cut side down on a paper towel for 30 minutes – this will extract excess water, helping them tenderise without falling apart when cooked. 2. Dry the courgettes thoroughly and heat a few tablespoons of oil in a frying pan over a high heat. Add the courgettes to the pan cut side down and fry for 5-10 minutes, until golden, then flip and baste them with the oil for a few more minutes, so they cook through evenly. Transfer to a wire rack or paper towel to drain, then place the courgettes cut side up on a baking tray. 3. Preheat the oven to 220°C/200°C Fan/Gas 7. 4. Whisk the miso paste, honey and a splash of water in a bowl until smooth and spreadable. Taste for seasoning, adjusting to your preference based on the saltiness of the miso, then spread a thin layer of the miso glaze over the cut side of the courgettes and sprinkle some sesame seeds on top. Bake for 7-10 minutes, ensuring the sesame seeds don't burn, until the glaze has caramelised. Advertisement 5. Mix a little lemon juice into the remaining miso glaze. Spread it on a plate, place the courgettes on top, and garnish with chopped spring onions. Enjoy! Kimchi pasta puttanesca 'I often make this with tinned tuna and anchovies, but it's great without them. Kimchi is another funky, briny flavour that happily sits alongside the capers and olives,' says Jenkins. 'Almost all the intense flavour comes from vegetables (technically fruits, if you want to be annoying) that have been cooked or prepared in a way that homes in on their best qualities and makes them shine.' Ingredients (Serves 4) 4tbsp extra virgin olive oil 500g cherry tomatoes 1 white onion, thinly sliced 4 garlic cloves, thinly sliced 6 tinned anchovy fillets in oil 1tsp dried red chilli flakes 2tbsp pitted olives (Italian black olives or whatever you prefer) 2tbsp capers, drained 300g roughly-cut kimchi, plus 1tbsp brine 1tbsp white wine vinegar Pinch of caster sugar 100g tinned tuna in spring water, drained 300-400g spaghetti To serve (optional) Handful of parsley, roughly chopped Lemon juice, to taste Method 1. Heat the oil in a large saucepan over a medium-high heat, then add the tomatoes and onion and cook for 7-10 minutes, or until you can pop the tomatoes with the back of your spoon. Add the garlic and anchovy and cook for a couple of minutes until fragrant, using the back of your spoon or a fork to break down the anchovy into the sauce. 2. Add the chilli flakes, olives, capers, kimchi and brine, vinegar, sugar and tuna and cook for 2 minutes, then turn off the heat. You just want the last additions to be warmed through but not lose their bright, briny flavour. 3. Cook the spaghetti in a large pot of seasoned boiling water till al dente, then mix it through the sauce with a little of the pasta cooking water. You can add some parsley and fresh lemon juice before serving. Extracted from Cooking With Vegetables by Jesse Jenkins, available now
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13-05-2025
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Q1 2025 Brinks Co Earnings Call
Jesse Jenkins; IR Contact Officer; Brinks Co Mark Eubanks; President, Chief Executive Officer; Brinks Co Kurt McMaken; Chief Financial Officer, Executive Vice President; Brinks Co George Tong; Analyst; Goldman Sachs Tim Mulrooney; Analyst; William Blair Toby Sommer; Analyst; Truist securities Operator Good afternoon and welcome to the Brink's first quarter 2025 earnings presentation. All participants will be in the listen-only mode. (Operator Instructions) Please note this event is being recorded. This call and the Q&A session will contain forward-looking statements. Actual results could differ materially from projected or estimated results. Information regarding factors that could cause such differences are available in the footnotes of today's press release and in the company's most recent SEC filings. The information presented and discussed on this call is representative of today only. Brinks assumes no obligation to update any forward-looking statements. The call is copyrighted and may not be used without written permission from Brinks. I will now turn it over to your host Jesse Jenkins, Vice President of Investor Relations. Mr. Jenkins, you may begin. Jesse Jenkins Thanks and good afternoon. Here with me today are CEO, Mark Eubanks; and CFO, Kurt McMaken. This afternoon, Brinks reported first quarter of 2025 results on a GAAP, non-GAAP, and constant currency basis. Most of our comments today will be focused on our non-GAAP results. These non-GAAP financial measures are intended to provide investors with a supplemental comparison of our operating results and trends for the periods presented. Our management believes these metrics are useful to investors as they allow investors to evaluate performance using the same metrics as management. Reconciliation of non-gap results to their most comparable GAAP results are provided in the press release, the appendix of the presentation, and in this afternoon's 8-K filing, all of which can be found on our website. I will now turn the call over to Brink CEO, Mark Eubanks. Mark Eubanks Thanks Jesse. Good afternoon and thank you all for joining us. Starting with slide 3, Brink delivered total organic growth of 6% in the first quarter at the top end of our previous guidance. ATM managed services and digital retail solutions, or AMS DRS, grew over 20% for the fourth consecutive quarter as we continue to build upon solid momentum in these higher margin recurring revenue businesses. We delivered solid year to year growth in our global services business, which particularly benefited our rest of world segment. Record Q1 operating profits were up 40 basis points in the quarter with good productivity and favorable revenue mix from AMS, DRS, and Global Services. Adjusted EDITDA was $215 million with a margin of 17.2%. Earnings per share of $1.62 reflects the benefits of share repurchases, as well as the planned increase in a year over year tax rate as we lap one-time benefits from a prior year. Adjusted EBITDA and EPS exceeded the high end of our Q1 guidance due to strong execution and the timing impact of some expenses that we shifted into Q2. On a $1 trillion 12 month basis, free cash flow and conversion of 40% came in as expected, highlighted by continued progress on AR collections and customer payment terms. Strategically, we continue to focus on maximizing growth potential in AMFDRS, expanding our margins, and executing our focused capital allocation framework. AMS and DRS continue to gain momentum throughout the organization with solid growth across all segments. Now representing a 25% of our business, these recurring revenue offerings support performance consistency, margin expansion, and improved free cash flow, which is derived from improved working capital dynamics and lower cap intensity. I'll have much more on AMS DRS in a few slides. In our CBM business, growth was highlighted by strong performance in our global services business. As I'm sure you see in the news, precious metal movement was elevated during the quarter, which led to improved year to year growth. Our long term customer relationships, our global network, and our industry leading capabilities position us well to continue to capture elevated demand that may arise going forward. We also continue to diligently execute against our capital allocation framework. Year-to-date, we repurchased 1.3 million shares at an average price of $87.62 per share, representing about 3% of the outstanding shares at year-end 2024. Additionally, just last week, we announced the third consecutive annual increase to our quarterly dividend as we continue to focus our capital allocation on shareholder returns. With the remaining repurchase capacity of over $180 million under our existing authorization, we are on track to meet or exceed our prior year share repurchase levels. Overall, it was a solid first quarter. We delivered solid organic growth in our key business lines, expanded operating profit margins, and we opportunistically increased the return of capital to shareholders. Supported by our strong Q1, we are affirming our full year framework of mid single digit organic growth, 30 to 50 basis points of EBITDA margin expansion and free cash flow conversion between 40% and 45%. As we look to the second quarter, we see similar mid single digit organic growth rates. EBITDA is expected to be between $205 million and $225 million with earnings per share between $1.25 and $1.65 per share. Q2 top line guidance reflects our expectations for continued momentum in AMSDRS current FX rates, and its stable economic conditions. The second quarter guidance aligns to our first half expectations, including the timing impact of some restructured expenses shifting out of Q1 into the second quarter. Turn to slide 4, you can see their performance against prior years. Constant currency and organic revenue growth were 6%, with total revenue growth of 1%. Adjusted EBITDA was down $3 million with a $6 million dollar increase in operating profit in spite of higher restructuring costs versus the prior year and less interest income from Argentina as inflation continues to moderate in the country. Earnings per share was up 13% on a constant currency basis and down $0.03 per share year over year. Our outstanding average share count was down 4% with an expected increase in tax rate, which reduced EPS by $0.11. Free cash flow performance was as expected in the quarter. In total, free cash flow was down $14 million on a trailing 12 month basis and reflects the payment of a previously disclosed Department of Justice and fins in resolution. Excluding this item, free cash flow would have been up $4 million year by year with conversion from EBITDA of 42%. On slide 5, you can see the performance by segment. Starting with North America on the left, constant currency growth of 4% and organic growth of 2% was consistent with the prior year. With several new customer onboardings this quarter, DRS growth continues to be a highlight in North America. CBM revenue was up organically year on year, primarily due to a slightly elevated global services volume. Record EBITDA margins included revenue mixed benefits, good pricing discipline, and continued productivity as we streamline routing, labor management, and SG&A. With stable staffing and service levels and second half routing improvements that remain on track, we are well positioned to continue to deliver growth and margin improvement over the balance of the year. In Latin America, 7% organic growth was more than offset by year over year currency devaluation, primarily in Mexico and Argentina. Normalizing for the impact of Argentina inflation moderation, Latin America organic growth rates were stable sequentially. AMS and DRS mix increased to 18% of total revenue behind another strong quarter of growth in all countries. On the margin side, as you'll remember from last quarter, we expected to take some restructuring actions in the segment to streamline operations behind a growing AMSDRS mix. While we executed a portion of that restructure in Q1, we had some actions that will push into the second quarter. Our restructuring actions position us well to protect margins and realize the benefits of AMS DRS revenue model as we move forward in any economic scenario. Europe grew revenue by 5% organically in the first quarter while AMSDRS Mix increased by 2% sequentially to 42% of total revenue. We are making good progress converting and adding customers to DRS in Europe, including the rollout of cash accepting self-checkout devices in grocery and convenience stores. Europe remains a strong AMS market due to the consolidated nature of the banking footprint, and we continue to add new partners to our managed services network. We're making strong progress integrating the previously announced Sainsbury's ATM estate into our UK business, and we remain on track for full deployment by the middle of the year. IIAW was flat on a year on year basis as we continue to take restructuring actions to optimize our operations and realize the benefits of accelerating AMS and DRS growth. Normalized for these actions margins would have been up 40 basis points year over year. In the rest of world segment, organic growth accelerated to 9% this quarter, primarily driven by the increased movement of precious metals that I mentioned earlier. Record first quarter IE down margins were up 130 basis points due to growth and mixed benefits of the higher global services revenue. Turn to slide 6. We have more detail by customer offering. Cash and valuables management grew 1% organically and accelerated sequentially when netting the impact of Argentina currency. As I mentioned earlier, global services was up sequentially and year over year with additional volume from gold and silver shipments, seen primarily in the rest of world segment. Shipments continued to grow throughout the quarter before peaking it in March. Early in the second quarter, movement moderated but remains ahead of prior year. As we mentioned last quarter, dynamics in our global services business shift quickly, and our ability to leverage existing infrastructure and customer relationships remain the keys to our success in this line of business. Given the slowing growth in early Q2, we remain cautious in our outlook on this business line for both the second quarter and the rest of the year, but remain, as always, well positioned to capitalize on any opportunities as they occur. In our more traditional cash in transit and money processing business, we are pleased to announce a new partnership with a leading financial institution in North America. After a competitive process, we were awarded full cash in transit. Money processing, and cash vaulting services across both the US and Canada. We plan to onboard this new business over the coming months while ensuring a smooth transition and maintaining our high customer service levels. Importantly, as with any new CBM business, we will look to expand relationships with new retail customers and additional ATM estates as we use these as entry points into AMS and DRS moving forward. In DRS, we delivered another strong quarter of growth in all markets. Momentum continues as we win new accounts and convert existing customers. In North America, we delivered our best quarter of DRS growth since 2022 with new installations in the quarter from a leading auto parts store and additional momentum in the restaurant and QSR space. In Latin America, Mexico had a good month of installations as well, with ads in the wholesale and C store markets. Conversions from traditional CIT to DRS accelerated in both North America and especially Europe, driving improved revenue mix and record first quarter down margins in North America. Looking ahead, we expect to see an impact on growth rates in the second quarter as we lat the previously mentioned equipment sales from last year. We feel good about the rest of the year in DRS as we work from. An increased base of business, install a larger backlog, and work to close a strong pipeline of opportunities. On the AMS side we continue our efforts on onboarding large customers that we discussed in previous quarters in both Europe and North America. As I mentioned earlier, Sainsbury's onboarding remains well on track. In the US, we're making good progress deploying services into gas stations and convenience store customers that we want in previous quarters. As discussed previously, due to the size of AMS deals, growth in this line of business is not expected to be as linear as DRS has been. With deployments on track, we expect AMS growth to begin to accelerate into the second half of 2025. We continue to make progress building both the quality and size of our pipeline, leading to improving win rates in this offering. Now let's turn to slide 7. Before I headed off to Kurt to talk to the specifics of the quarter and our guidance. I thought it would be helpful to frame how the current market dynamics may impact as it brings. While we've yet to experience any significant disruption in our business, uncertainty has increased in many of the economies where we serve, including the US. On the left side of the slide, you can see our organic growth rates over the last 18 years. As you can see, we have a history of performing well across many market conditions and business cycles. Our growth rates have been consistently in the mid single digit range outside of the pandemic when retail establishments were completely shut down and the great financial crisis in 2009. With a much larger base of business now in AMSDRS and a more diversified global footprint, we expect to be even more resilient going forward. Our customer diversity in retail and financial institutions help mitigate challenges in any one sector, and we're closely monitoring any potential increase in bankruptcies or store closures in the markets we serve. With a geographic footprint that serves customers in over 100 countries and a global services business that has historically performed well in downturns, we are well positioned and adequately diversified if economic conditions deteriorate. As a service-based business, we expect to be mostly insulated from direct tariff exposure. More than half of our costs are labor, including fleet and shipping expenses. Most of our cost is variable, allowing us to protect our margins if volumes slow in the future. With the base of locally managed operations in 51 countries, materials and labor are primarily sourced by our local teams in local currency, and we have a long history of managing inflationary pressures with price discipline and productivity. We have a pipeline of productivity initiatives working through the brink's business system that will continue to support margins. And as we continue to shift our business to AMS and DRS, we are increasing network density and improving routing flexibility, providing more certainty on our profit margin expansion plans over the balance of the year and for years to come. Overall, I'm pleased with the first quarter and the outlook for the rest of the year. Our business remains stable and well positioned to execute our strategy. A growing base of AMS and DRS, line of sight to productivity initiatives in the second half, and a one quarter above expectations provide a strong foundation to continue our organic growth and margin expansion journey for the rest of the year. And now I'd like to turn over to Kurt to discuss the details of the quarter and more specifics on our outlook. Kurt McMaken Thanks, Mark, and good afternoon, everyone. Starting on slide 8, organic revenue grew $69 million with 80% of that growth coming from higher margin AMS and DRS services. $13 million of CVM growth included the impact of AMS and DRS customer conversions. Currency headwinds amounted to $66 million or 5% in the period, primarily from the Mexican peso, Argentine peso, and the Brazilian real. The organic revenue make benefits flow through generating 30% incremental operating profit while organic adjusted EBITDA grew $14 million or 6%. Total adjusted EBITDA margins were down 50 basis points from the prior year, negatively impacted by the regional revenue mix of FX, as well as less Argentina interest income. On slide 9, starting on the left, operating profit was up 4% to $151 million with a margin of 12.1% on strong productivity and line of business revenue mix. Interest expense was up $2 million year over year to $58 million. We are still expecting interest expense to be roughly flat to the prior year. Tax expenses were $28 million in the quarter, representing an effective tax rate of 27.8%, an increase from the 23.2% we saw in the prior year. As a reminder, this tax rate increase is primarily related to the lapping impact of inflation adjustments in Argentina on the prior year that is not expected to repeat in 2025. Interest income was $11 million in the quarter, down $5 million year over year. With inflation rates moderating in Argentina, we expect 2025 interest income to continue to decelerate as we move through the rest of the year. Income from continuing operations was $70 million. Walking back up to adjusted EBITA, depreciation and amortization was $54 million. We still expect total DNA to rise modestly in 2025, primarily reflecting increased depreciation from AMS and DRS equipment. In the stock comp and other category, stock-based compensation was down $4 million year over year in Q1, and for the full year we expect stock comp to decrease slightly to between $30 million and $35 million. Moving to slide 10. We continue to diligently execute our unchanged capital allocation framework. As always, we strive to allocate capital prioritizing long term shareholder value. Our framework is designed to compound free cash flow in future years by investing first in organic growth and margin enhancing opportunities in the business. We are targeting CapEx as a percentage of revenue around 3.5%, and plan to continue to drive capital efficiency as we shift our mix to AMS and DRS. In the first quarter, our leverage increased to 3.06 times, just over our target range as we accelerated share repurchases into the early part of the year to opportunistically take advantage of attractive pricing. We remain on target to be within our leverage range by year end. Our primary use of capital over the last few years has been share repurchases, and we continued the trend in the first quarter. Through May 9th, we have repurchased over 1.3 million shares, a full 3% of the outstanding share count at year end. In total we have spent over 110 million year-to-date and have approximately 180 million in available capacity remaining in our current authorization. With respect to dividends, just last week, our board authorized the third consecutive annual increase to our quarterly dividend. We plan to follow a similar consistent dividend policy going forward. And finally on M&A, our posture on deals is consistent. We have a full pipeline and continue to explore a creative opportunities that have a strong strategic fit, attractive returns, and align with our current leverage targets and broader capital allocation framework. Moving to the guidance on slide 11. With a strong first quarter behind us, our full year framework for 2025 remains unchanged. We expect mid single digit organic growth to include mid to high 10s organic growth and AMSDRF. Over the last quarter, FX rates have moved in our favor. Using today's rates, we would expect about a 2.5%, or $125 million dollar FX improvement to our initial full year estimate. This $125 million FX improvement was primarily due to the EUR and pound, shifting our geographic mix of revenue more towards our Europe segment. So despite the good EBITDA performance we saw in the 1st quarter, we are maintaining our margin expansion targets of 30 to 50 basis points for the full year. There has been no change to our expectations for free cash flow conversion, and as I mentioned on the last slide, we opportunistically pulled forward share repurchases into the early part of the year and for the full year remain on track with shareholder returns that meet or exceed 2024 levels. In the second quarter, we expect revenue between $1.25 billion and $1.3 billion reflecting organic growth in the mid single digits. Using today's rates, FX is expected to be a headwind of around 3% to 3.5% as we lap last year's Q2 steep devaluation of the Mexican peso before moderating in Q3. The organic revenue guidance assumes strong continued growth in AMSDRS and current trends in the global services business. Adjusted EBITDA is expected to be between $205 million and $225 million. This suggested E dot guidance reflects the flow through of revenue growth, the timing impact of restructuring actions that shifted from Q1 to Q2, the impact of currency mix on margins, and lower interest income. EPS is expected to be between $1.25 and $1.65. And now I'll hand it back to Mark for closing comments before we start Qing it. Mark Eubanks Thanks Kurt. 2025 is off to a solid start. In Q1, we delivered the fourth consecutive quarter of over 20% organic growth in our key verticals of AMS and DRS, supported by a strong pipeline and the onboarding of several new customer accounts in the second half. I am encouraged by our momentum. In CVM, we remain well positioned to generate growth with a major new North America banking partnership coming in the second half, and our global services business remains poised to capture the available growth opportunities. I margins are expected to expand in the back half of the year behind the strong growth and our ongoing productivity efforts. Supported by our historical performance, our differentiated business model is built for success in the uncertain macroeconomic environment ahead of us. I am confident we are sustainably improving the business, building a business that will deliver a more consistent growth, marginal improvement, and free cash flow generation profile for years to come. And with that, we're happy to take your questions, operator, please open the line. Operator (Operator Instructions) George Tong, Goldman Sachs. George Tong Hi, thanks, good afternoon. Can you talk a little bit more about your tariff exposure, specifically how much of your hardware is imported, measured as either percentage of revenue or percentage of cost, what your country exposures are, and what average effective tariff rate across your country exposures is assumed in your guidance? Mark Eubanks Sure, thanks, George for the question. We, first and foremost, we talked a little bit about it in the prepared remarks, but we don't really expect frankly, any direct exposure from tariffs. As most of our costs and our revenues are all in the same currency, and we don't import export. Much of our services. Obviously our global services business a little bit different and I think that's why you saw some of the activities in Q1. There were some concerns about precious metals which caused a lot of shipments from around the world, frankly, that showed up in our rest of the world segment as really a step up in revenue bringing precious metals, particularly to the US that Eventually was sorted out as you're probably aware, and those commodities were exempted from any tariffs. So today we really don't, see any of that even as we think about like trucks, parts, and so forth, most of those are locally sourced in region or in inside of trade unions, and so we don't really have any impact. I think that the issue where we where we would see impact to our business like any business would be, any sort of moderation to growth, global growth that occurred, or any local, let's say cost of living increases or inflation and of course in those cases we do all we can to manage those costs with productivity, but also, we'll remain disciplined obviously in the in our pricing posture as we go to market. George Tong Got it. That's helpful context. And then switching gears, looking at your Latin America business, organic growth was 7% in the quarter, but the FX drag was negative 16%. In past quarters, your organic growth was able to match. Your FX trends. So can you talk about pricing trends you're seeing in the region and if you're able to use pricing to fully offset currency devaluations or FX headwinds going forward? Yeah. Mark Eubanks Yeah, good question, George. So two things, two types of two types, two parts of that question, let's say. The first is pricing for the highly inflationary market like Argentina where the currency was devaluing, rapidly and yes, we continue to maintain that same posture of, as inflation, the hyperinflation comes through, we're pricing for that in the local market. In the Latin America basket in total, the largest part of the FX impact is the Mexican peso, which is really just a year on year impact of the devaluation that occurred last year in the end of June. And so we'll see, we'll continue to see FX. Headwinds from Mexico and Brazil, frankly, for the really for the first half when when the big devaluation happened late June, we'll see that moderate in the back half of the year. Q2 should be similar in total growth. As one, so, we feel, Good where we are and in fact, the quarter came in about as we expected. Operator Tim Mulrooney, William Blair. Tim Mulrooney Mark Kirk, good afternoon. Mark Eubanks Hey Tim, how are you? Tim Mulrooney Tim. Doing well thank you so I have a few here first on your 2nd quarter. Margin guide, you're looking at about 16.9% I think which is down. On a year over year basis for the 2nd quarter of last year, down a little more than 100 basis points, I think. Can you just walk me through the puts and takes here and also with margins being down year over year in the first half, but full year guidance anticipating 30 to 50 basis points of margin expansion, can you help us bridge that GAAP between first half margins and second half margins? Kurt McMaken Yeah, hey Tim, it's Kurt. Let me kind of walk you through first on the first half, I think some of the biggest drivers are really going to be around two main things. One is FX and the mix of the FX, particularly from the Mexican peso and how that impacts our margins. And the second is around Argentina interest income. Because that rolls off, has rolled off year over year and has a significant impact. So those two are are big drivers of ultimately the margins. There's also a bit of restructuring in there. We have more restructuring this year than last year in the in the first half. So those are your three, big items when you think about the first half, and even the second quarter. If you look at the second half and how things are ramping again you have some FX impacts on that. Number one, you don't, the the the Mexican pesos starts to roll off, so the so the FX impact in the second half is quite a bit more muted. And then you have normal seasonality for us, so we ramp in the second half our organic, actually if you look at the organic growth in the second half, it's pretty consistent with the first half, but because the FX is moderating your growth, your total growth is actually, quite a bit higher. So and then if you look at the flow through on that, it's pretty much as we would expect. Mark Eubanks In fact, Tim, FX, if you just run the math out, become almost a tailwind in Q4, just given the year on year of where the Mexican peso is today and where it was in Q4. Kurt McMaken The only other reminder too in the 3rd quarter, we had a pretty significant security loss event last year and so we're lapping that in the 3rd quarter, so there's a pretty big expansion in the 3rd quarter in terms of margins because of that. Tim Mulrooney Okay, that was very comprehensive. Thank you. So FX. The restructuring, the interest income and the lapping of that security loss. Thank you. On the interest income, I know that less interest income from Argentina negatively impacted margins in the first quarter. How much of a headwind do you expect this to be to keep it for the full year? Kurt McMaken So, We, it, it's meaningful. I mean, I, it runs. Maybe a way to think about it is Yeah, I, I'm trying to bucketize it in a way that's. I think you can think about it as $45 million a quarter. I The way to think about it. Tim Mulrooney Okay, that's. That's helpful. Now, the reason. Kurt McMaken A little bit, yeah, Tim, I was just going to say is because it does obviously depend a lot on what happens in country, but that's kind of our current thinking on it. Tim Mulrooney Got it. Yeah, I know this is a very dynamic situation, especially. Mark Eubanks Lately, so that's what's in our outlook in our guide for the quarter, Tim, yeah. Tim Mulrooney Okay, maybe we can shift to growth here really quick. I know you're expecting 3% to 6% organic growth in the second quarter. What would that be, excluding the equipment sales from last year? Mark Eubanks Oh, for DRS AMS, is that what you're asking, excluding equipment sales? Yeah. Yeah, so, yeah, we are, we're expecting, so last year just as a reminder we had $8 million worth of DRS. Sales that were equipment sales one time that we talked about. We're, we left the quarter a little over 20% in 1. Q2 will have a little bit, maybe a couple points of headwind on an organic growth basis, but on a dollar basis we expect to continue the same kind of trajectory, Tim, and don't expect it to be outside of our guide or or even kind of the recent continued efforts. Tim Mulrooney Okay, got it. That's good news. Kurt McMaken And one more, just sorry, just one clarification on that, I mentioned in the prepared comments about, AMS and DRS, a little bit of the differences in maybe. Their growth characteristics where DRS is usually lots of, maybe smaller, more gradual growth, it's more, maybe more consistent where AMF can be lumpy, contracts might be bigger and in fact, in the quarter we had a pretty good quarter not just on, revenue but on awards, we we actually. We got two new awards down in Southeast Asia from banks, ATM outsourcing agreements, pretty significant one in the Philippines, one in Indonesia. Those will come on, likely in the second half into early Q1 next year. We're still on boarding Sainsbury's right now as we, as I mentioned, which is, a significant undertaking that will provide, a lot of Support for the back half, organic growth, as well as several other large convenience store chains here in North America that were also on boarding. So really good progress there. The pipeline continues to grow and not only is the pipeline growing, but the quality of the pipelines growing and what I mean by that is more, higher close rate, more fidelity, less, let's say time dragging out in in in some of these deals. And then on the DRS side, very similar, as I look at the end of the first quarter, our DRS worldwide device count was up 5% over the December 31 kind of year-end rate, so making, meaningful deployment improvements. In fact, in North America, we installed a record number of devices. In our history in March and had really good momentum in April as well with installs of our backlog. So it's really, good momentum and then I just say the rest of the DRS portfolio, you can see our numbers, good high penetration in Europe accelerating penetration in North America, but if you look at, Latin America and the rest of the world, we're also now starting to see. Pick up in growth there, both. Mexico, Brazil, Chile, these are the big markets for us. We do continue to see that. And then also, as I mentioned, Indonesia on the AMS side, they're also doing well on the DRS side. We've even, signed a nice agreement with a smaller business of ours in the UAE. So we're really starting to see some some good trends for not just the conversions but really more of the unbinded customers when you get into these emerging economies. Tim Mulrooney That's really good color, Mark. I mean, my last question was going to be if you could remind us why you'd expect your AMSDRS business to be more resilient to macro softness, maybe relative to the traditional CIT business, but I think maybe you just answered it. Is the answer just that the penetration opportunity is so significant? I is it just that the growth opportunity in the white space is so significant that you see growth there regardless, or is there something inherent? About the DRSA business model that lends itself to less cyclicality. Mark Eubanks Yeah, I'd say there's two things there, Tim. The first is absolutely the white space is much larger, which means if the white space is 5x the existing, addressable market, it could be down 50%. We'd still have a huge market to go to go catch. So that that is certainly part of it and, okay, it's not. It's not all easy business or known customers, so we've got to develop new channels to market which we're doing so that that is occurring and it's providing, obviously tailwinds to growth even in the headwind of an economy. The other side of that though is also in our traditional CIT business. The revenues were more activity-based, more volume based, and in fact ended up being, much less or are much less predictable in a, from a month to month, quarter to quarter where the DRSAMS agreements are largely subscription-based service agreements that have longer term, more. More consistent revenues that don't have much variability, baked into transactions, volumes or values. Operator Toby Sommer, Truist. Toby Sommer Good afternoon. This is Tyler Barraon for Toby. Markets were quite volatile post Q1Qs maybe describe some of the trends in the BGS segment quarter to date. Mark Eubanks Yeah, sure, certainly what we saw in 21 was very unusual, the tariff, scare or tariff concerns around. Being able to get precious metals into North America certainly drove a lot of shipment volatility in the markets, but a lot of shipment volumes for us, and you saw that in our rest of world segment as they, really had a great quarter fulfilling customer needs to, keep. What we thought might be, to keep functions, markets functioning, around precious metals, particularly, in North America. We don't see that that same level of activity in April and in fact we would say it's really been slowing throughout April into you know into the rest of the quarter and probably would look more like. You know what we would have seen with in the other regions around mid single digit organic growth. I think our guide right now reflects that current trend baked into that and we think, we feel pretty good about where that is. Toby Sommer Makes sense. The AMSDRS mix is quite wide across different segments. Can you just talk about some of the initiatives you could take to maybe raise that mix in Latin America and the rest of the world? Mark Eubanks Yeah, sure. We, in fact, we are, we're working through that now. I think part of what's happening in Latin America and the rest of the world is. They already, it's a we have pretty significant businesses there already that have been, in rich cash you know or cash heavy economies, let's say, and in many cases some of our early DRS solutions may not have been able to accommodate that. We've expanded our product portfolio, made some investments, with our product management organization, working with suppliers to develop. Solutions that are capable of dealing with much higher cash volumes and we see those those solutions resonating with some of our existing customers on the new customers it's actually been the other way it's required us to really become maybe more nimble and lower our cost to serve with, maybe smaller solutions, smaller devices that are able to really. Attack that segment of the market that is much smaller retailers, not large, store footprints that you might see in our traditional business. So as we do that, obviously we've had to develop not only our own sales team's capabilities but also developing other channel partners whether that's partnering with banks, other financial services companies, or even, other let's say, retail. POS payments types of companies to to help us get access to those markets. Kurt McMaken You can see in the growth rates you Tyler, I mean, the both the rest of the world and latM, grew about 25% of EMS DRS in the quarter, so. Operator Thank you. This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Mark Eubanks for any closing remarks. Mark Eubanks Yeah, thank you all for joining us this afternoon. We appreciate your continued interest in Brinks and look forward to speaking to you soon and maybe seeing you in person when we're here on the road. Have a great night. Operator The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect. Error in retrieving data Sign in to access your portfolio Error in retrieving data Error in retrieving data Error in retrieving data Error in retrieving data
