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Larry McReynolds vs. Mark Martin? Nah, but let's talk NASCAR playoffs anyway
Larry McReynolds vs. Mark Martin? Nah, but let's talk NASCAR playoffs anyway

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time13 hours ago

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Larry McReynolds vs. Mark Martin? Nah, but let's talk NASCAR playoffs anyway

If Matt Kenseth killed the old championship system, did Joey Logano kill the current method? Are both true? Is neither true? Or is the answer somewhere between those two extremes? Answers: Doubtful. Probably not. Yeah, sounds about right. Such things are being hashed out publicly this week, and among those weighing in is one of the very best NASCAR racers who just so happened to never win a championship: Hall of Famer Mark Martin, who, by the way, was seemingly and inadvertently dragged into this argument by America's Crew Chief. We'll explain, but first, some history. Mild Matty K in 2003: One win, one championship The 'old way' of crowning a champion ended after Matt Kenseth won the 2003 championship. Mild Matt was a picture of consistency that year, but he wasn't consistently at the front of the field. In fact, he won just one race. Didn't matter, because the championship was determined by season-long points gathering, with the only bonuses being a one-time five-pointer for leading a lap, and another five if you led the most laps in the race — 10 extra points available in each race, where the winner received 175, which was actually 180 because by winning he obviously led at least one lap. Each race runner-up back then got 170 points, and if you're looking for you're looking for a big glitch in the old system, it's this: Take those 170 points, add five for leading a lap and five more leading the most laps, and yep, the second-place driver would earn just as many points as the winner. You could win the Daytona 500 and go to Week 2 without the points lead. Weird but true. Still with us? That long-ago formula was how Dale Earnhardt won seven championships. It's how Richard Petty won seven before that, though the method of collecting season-long points changed midway through King Richard's reign. NASCAR first went playoff racin' in 2004 NASCAR had been tinkering with ideas for a postseason when presented with the perfect time to strike: Right after Matt Kenseth's one-win 2003 championship season (that one victory came at Vegas, by the way). Kurt Busch was the first champ crowned after a postseason, which began as a 10-race mini-season, where the playoff driver who gathered the most points during that span was considered the champ. In the years following, the playoffs were tweaked, tweaked and tweaked again, and eventually they landed on the system in place for the past 11 years — 16 drivers whittled to 12 after three playoff races, to eight after three more, to a final four after three more, with the 10th and final playoff race being a winner-take-all among those four. Generally speaking, the eventual champ had put together a good all-around season, followed by a steady-to-great playoffs. Then came Joey Logano in 2024. Joey Logano's lucky (and timely) 2024 championship run Logano was 15th in points after the regular season, but was in no danger of missing the 16-driver playoffs because he'd earned automatic entry with a Week 19 win at Nashville. Though a two-time champ, he slid into the playoffs without much fanfare, but then he won the first playoff race, at Atlanta, to secure a Round of 12 berth. Logano barely missed transferring from the Round of 12 to the Round of 8, however … … He advanced from ninth place to the Round of 8 when Alex Bowman's car was DQ'd following post-race inspections at Charlotte. Joey not only survived, but wouldn't you know it, he opened the Round of 8 with a win at Las Vegas, and after finishes of 28th and 10th the next two weeks, he clutched up and won the final at Phoenix for championship number three. He got hot at the right time, lucky at the right time, then hot again at the right time. It doesn't often work out in that fashion, but it can, and some aren't crazy about it, which leads us to Mark Martin. Larry Mac vs. Mark Martin? Not really Martin keeps pretty active on social media, and he's not shy about preaching the virtues of the old season-long championship battle, even though the Cup title was often clinched prior to the final weekend. Hell, sometimes two weeks prior. Like Phil Mickelson at the U.S. Open, Martin famously finished second in the Cup standings five times. He raced for championships under the old system and under the original playoff method, but never under today's system. Martin joined the current discussion because some fans thought he was being called out — unfavorably, they felt — by longtime crew chief-turned-broadcaster Larry McReynolds, who co-hosts a NASCAR show on SiriusXM satellite radio. Danielle Trotta, his co-host, suggested a racer on the current playoff subcommittee (they're examining potential ways to tweak the modern system) badly wants to go back to the pre-2004 ways. 'I bet it's a driver that's not won a championship,' Larry Mac said to Trotta. Uh-oh. Chances are, he was speaking of Denny Hamlin, but some knee-jerk reactors thought he was taking a shot at Mark Martin, which would've been an extremely weird thing to do in this case, but knee-jerk reactions, by definition, don't come with a lot of thought. So the knee-jerkers did what they often do, they went on X to rat out Larry Mac — and rat him out directly to Mark Martin, who didn't really take the bait but did reiterate his love of the old ways. What does the 2023 NASCAR champ have to say about all this? Next up: Ryan Blaney, the 2023 champ who seems to fall somewhere in the middle of this argument. Also speaking on SiriusXM this week, Blaney said he favors the original playoff format, back when just 10 drivers made the postseason and, once there, reset the standings and raced for points over the entire 10-race playoff. That's back when it was called the 'Chase for the Championship' by most but officially known as the Chase for the Nextel Cup. 'Do I have my ideal championship format? Yeah,' Blaney said. 'I was a huge fan of the initial Chase. Last 10 weeks of the year, you kind of have somewhat of a reset in points and then you go 10 races and whoever had the best 10 races was going to win the championship.' Solid idea, but two problems. First, don't bet on NASCAR shrinking the playoff field from 16, and certainly not all the way back to 10. More playoff cars, more playoff exposure for the sponsors who largely fund horsepower. And they won't likely return to a 10-race points chase that could see the leader go into the final weekend needing nothing more, say, than a 25th-place finish to clinch the Cup. Right now, it's all theory, but when the smoke clears, here's a certainty: Whether things stay the same, return to yesteryear or fall somewhere in between, some people won't like it. — Email Ken Willis at This article originally appeared on The Daytona Beach News-Journal: NASCAR feud? Larry Mac vs. Mark Martin vs. Matt Kenseth vs. Joey Logano

What to watch for in today's NASCAR Cup race at Indianapolis Motor Speedway
What to watch for in today's NASCAR Cup race at Indianapolis Motor Speedway

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time2 days ago

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What to watch for in today's NASCAR Cup race at Indianapolis Motor Speedway

INDIANAPOLIS — The challenges will be immense for NASCAR Cup drivers and teams in today's race at Indianapolis Motor Speedway. A narrow track and high speeds make it tough to pass. That impacts what happens on the track and how the strategy goes. Here's a look at what to watch for today. Cautions breed cautions Last year's race saw half of the 10 cautions come after restarts, including crashes that eliminated, among others, William Byron, Joey Logano, Alex Bowman and Denny Hamlin. Logano was eliminated by a crash on a restart that started behind him. 'It came forward,' Logano said of the accident that ended his race a year ago. 'You don't see that every day, do you? 'I think everyone knows it's hard to pass. If (a restart is) your opportunity to pass, everybody's willing to ship it in there and figure it out later. Unfortunately, it causes accidents. 'If there's ability to pass later on, then everybody probably would have a little more respect for each other, more grace out there, a little more give and take.' The last three Cup races on the Indy oval have seen at least one crash on a restart. 'I think without fuel saving, restarts are kind of one of your only opportunities to pass here,' Bowman said. 'They got super crazy there at the end (last year).' Tight pit road A majority of the fast cars selected pit stalls near pit exit because the width of pit road at Indianapolis (not including the pit boxes) is 24 feet. Only World Wide Technology Raceway has a narrower pit road width at 22 feet. Ryan Blaney knows the challenges of pitting near pit entrance. In the 2020 race at Indianapolis, Zach Price, who remains the rear tire changer for Blaney, was struck on pit road when there was a chain-reaction crash just after pit entrance that blocked pit road. 'I'm like ultra vigilant here,' Blaney said of pit road. 'Let's say I'm done with my stop and I'm cruising down pit road (in the far right lane), I'm always watching those cars on the left who are in their stall. I've got to look at are they about to drop the left-side jack, and what that looks like because you can't bail anywhere. The only way you can bail is to slow down and stop. It makes it pretty tough. Hopefully … you don't see any issues on pit road and guys stay safe.' Indianapolis starting lineup: Chase Briscoe claims NASCAR Cup pole at home track Chase Briscoe has won five poles this season, including at the Daytona 500, Coca-Cola 600 and now the Brickyard 400. Dustin Long, Teams pick pit stalls based on how they qualify. The pole winner gets first choice, the No. 2 starter the second choice and on down to the final car. Most teams select closer to pit exit to avoid potential incidents near pit entrance or the middle of pit road. Bubba Wallace will start second and that gives him a good pit stall. He will be in pit stall 5, which has an opening in front of it, allowing Wallace to exit his stall without worry of being blocked in. 'This is probably the sketchiest pit road, for sure,' Wallace said. 'Obviously, we've seen a lot of crashes (on pit road) here, a lot of injuries. So, we can keep ourselves out of harm's way, the better. I'm excited. That's what we want, a good qualifying effort.' Guess the right strategy Crew chiefs will be busy devising the strategy they think gets their car to the finish line first. Brad Keselowski tried to stretch his fuel in last year's race but a late caution sent the race into overtime. As the field headed toward the restart zone, Keselowski, who led, pulled off to pit road because he was out of fuel. How to watch Sunday's Brickyard 400 Cup race at Indianapolis: Start time, TV info and weather There are only three former winners in the field of the crown jewel event. Nate Ryan, 'I think we were really aggressive last year and we almost won the race,' Keselowski said. 'I wouldn't expect anything to change there, and we've got no reason not to be very aggressive. I certainly don't want to just do dumb things just to do them, but this is a race that lends itself to aggressive moves on the track and off the track with pit strategy.' Playoff picture Twelve drivers have won this season, leaving four playoff spots open at this time via points. Those in a playoff spot without a victory this season are Tyler Reddick (156 points above the cutline), Alex Bowman (+63), Chris Buescher (+44) and Bubba Wallace (+16). Ryan Preece is the first driver outside a playoff spot. He lost 13 points to Wallace last weekend at Dover and is 16 points back. Kyle Busch is 39 points below the cutline. Ty Gibbs is 52 points below the cutline. $1 million at stake NASCAR's inaugural In-Season Challenge comes to an end at Indianapolis. Ty Dillon, the last seed in the 32-driver event, faces Ty Gibbs. Whoever finishes better will claim the $1 million prize. 'If we execute our race and do the best to our abilities - no mistakes and out execute everybody in the field - we might not have the most speed to win the race, but we're going to do plenty to put pressure on him,' Dillon said of Gibbs.

Chase Elliott wins the pole at Dover after rain washes out NASCAR qualifying
Chase Elliott wins the pole at Dover after rain washes out NASCAR qualifying

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time19-07-2025

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Chase Elliott wins the pole at Dover after rain washes out NASCAR qualifying

DOVER, Del. (AP) — Chase Elliott took advantage of heavy rain at Dover Motor Speedway to earn the pole for Sunday's NASCAR Cup Series race. Elliott and the rest of the field never got to turn a scheduled practice or qualifying lap on Saturday because of rain that pounded the concrete mile track. Dover is scheduled to hold its first July race since the track's first one in 1969. Elliott has two wins and 10 top-five finishes in 14 career races at Dover. Chase Briscoe starts second, followed by Christopher Bell, Tyler Reddick and William Byron. Shane van Gisbergen, last week's winner at Sonoma Raceway, Michael McDowell, Joey Logano, Ty Gibbs and Kyle Busch complete the top 10. Logano is set to become the youngest driver in NASCAR history with 600 career starts. Logano will be 35 years, 1 month, 26 days old when he hits No. 600 on Sunday at Dover Motor Speedway. He will top seven-time NASCAR champion and Hall of Famer Richard Petty by six months. The midseason tournament that pays $1 million to the winner pits Ty Dillon vs. John Hunter Nemechek and Reddick vs. Gibbs in the head-to-head challenge at Dover. The winners face off next week at Indianapolis. Reddick is the betting favorite to win it all, according to BetMGM Sportsbook. All four drivers are winless this season. ___ AP auto racing:

Chase Elliott wins the pole at Dover after rain washes out NASCAR qualifying
Chase Elliott wins the pole at Dover after rain washes out NASCAR qualifying

Associated Press

time19-07-2025

  • Automotive
  • Associated Press

Chase Elliott wins the pole at Dover after rain washes out NASCAR qualifying

DOVER, Del. (AP) — Chase Elliott took advantage of heavy rain at Dover Motor Speedway to earn the pole for Sunday's NASCAR Cup Series race. Elliott and the rest of the field never got to turn a scheduled practice or qualifying lap on Saturday because of rain that pounded the concrete mile track. Dover is scheduled to hold its first July race since the track's first one in 1969. Elliott has two wins and 10 top-five finishes in 14 career races at Dover. Chase Briscoe starts second, followed by Christopher Bell, Tyler Reddick and William Byron. Shane van Gisbergen, last week's winner at Sonoma Raceway, Michael McDowell, Joey Logano, Ty Gibbs and Kyle Busch complete the top 10. Logano is set to become the youngest driver in NASCAR history with 600 career starts. Logano will be 35 years, 1 month, 26 days old when he hits No. 600 on Sunday at Dover Motor Speedway. He will top seven-time NASCAR champion and Hall of Famer Richard Petty by six months. The midseason tournament that pays $1 million to the winner pits Ty Dillon vs. John Hunter Nemechek and Reddick vs. Gibbs in the head-to-head challenge at Dover. The winners face off next week at Indianapolis. Reddick is the betting favorite to win it all, according to BetMGM Sportsbook. All four drivers are winless this season. ___ AP auto racing:

Joey Logano set to become youngest driver in NASCAR with 600 starts. How much does he have left?
Joey Logano set to become youngest driver in NASCAR with 600 starts. How much does he have left?

Toronto Star

time19-07-2025

  • Automotive
  • Toronto Star

Joey Logano set to become youngest driver in NASCAR with 600 starts. How much does he have left?

DOVER, Del. (AP) — Joey Logano's first NASCAR Cup Series start — before he would drive for heavyweight owners such as Joe Gibbs and Roger Penske — came in New Hampshire for a short-lived team called Hall of Fame racing. Set to make his 600th career start, the youngest driver in NASCAR history to reach that milestone, the 35-year-old Logano has constructed a Hall of Fame career.

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