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Daily Mail
29-04-2025
- Business
- Daily Mail
My father was sold a trust to beat care fees that's useless and will cost £3,000 to cancel: SALLY SORTS IT
My 85-year-old father and I decided to make new wills with Jones Whyte in 2022. The woman handling our case insisted we should have a family protection trust fund for his home, suggesting that it was a must in case he went into a nursing home – which has never been the intention. We agreed under stress and paid £2,566, not understanding the full implications and the fact the house which my dad wants me to inherit was signed over to the trustees – Jones Whyte – irrevocably. When we asked for the trust to be dissolved, Jones Whyte came back to say this would cost at least £3,000 plus VAT. We don't think this is fair. Please help. R.M., Glasgow. Sally Hamilton replies: You and your father were clearly convinced that the family house could be protected from being sold to meet care bills. This landed him with a £2,566 bill and a product you didn't need or want. A trust is a legal structure where trustees – in your case, solicitors – are appointed to control the contents for the benefit of the person it is set up for. This means a property cannot be sold without the trustees' consent, for example. There is a chance that the authorities will overlook a property held in a family protection trust when assessing liability for care bills. But it should have been made clearer to you that there is also a high risk that they will not. Many local authorities do not take kindly to trusts if they believe they were arranged to hide assets – known in legal parlance as the 'deliberate deprivation of assets'. Such trusts are tempting because the law says people must pay all their own care home costs if they have assets of £23,250 or more in England and Northern Ireland, £35,000 in Scotland or £50,000 in Wales. Emily Deane, technical counsel at the Society of Trust and Estate Practitioners, told me: 'Using a trust to prevent paying care home fees is not a risk worth taking. If a local authority decides that you have deliberately reduced your assets to avoid paying for care home fees, they may still include the value of the property you no longer have when they do the financial assessment.' Such trusts are often used to potentially reduce inheritance tax (IHT) bills if the value of someone's estate on death is otherwise likely to exceed the threshold. Currently, it is possible to bequeath up to £325,000 without incurring IHT – and if passing a house down to a child or grandchild on death, there is an extra allowance of £175,000. Scam Watch Shoppers should beware a scam Facebook post impersonating retailer Boots, consumer website Which? warns. Fraudsters write that Boots is offering mystery boxes with 'leftover cosmetics' for £3 – in return for answering a three-question survey. The tricksters direct you to a link to complete the questionnaire but this will aim to steal your personal and financial details, Which? says. The posts could come from a hacked account. Do not click on the link. Instead, press the three dots in the right corner of the post and click 'report'. This means your dad's estate would have to exceed £500,000 before any tax was due. At the time his trust was implemented, he was 82 and his home was worth £230,000. You believe it has barely changed in value in the three years since. Your dad could simply leave the house in his will with no IHT due. You asked Jones Whyte to unwind the trust. But you were shocked to be told this would cost £3,000 plus VAT and a fee for reviewing the trust. I felt you had a good case so asked Jones Whyte to put you back in the position you were in before setting up the trust without stumping up any more cash. You wanted me to negotiate with them on your behalf, but Jones Whyte declined. As you were nervous, a friend accompanied you to a meeting and took notes. Discussions went well and the firm agreed to wind up the trust – at no charge. Your father's house is now back in his own name and you are planning to make some modifications to the property to make his life easier. You were grateful for my intervention. A spokesman for Jones Whyte says: 'While we cannot comment on the specific details of any particular client matter, we are pleased to have been able to resolve [this client's] concerns to their satisfaction, both constructively and respectfully at all times.' BA won't help with our insurance claim We booked British Airways flights to Washington DC last June costing £4,574. At the beginning of that month my husband was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. He notified the insurance company, Staysure – but more than nine months later we are still waiting to be paid. The sticking point is BA, which needs to provide a document proving we didn't fly on the date booked or at a later date. My husband has filled in form after form but gets nowhere. Please help. K.G., Sandhurst. Sally Hamilton replies: I was sad to read that your holiday plans to visit your three grandchildren had been thrown up in the air due to your husband's shock diagnosis. I was sadder still to learn of the extreme headwinds he's faced getting his money back. Travel insurers need to receive official cancellation documents to process a claim – for audit, record-keeping and fraud prevention. The only money sent so far was £463 in refunded air passenger duty. Airlines by law must reimburse this cost if passengers don't fly. Your husband contacted BA on its chat service and by phone almost weekly once he had recovered from his cancer operation, but to no avail. He even drove to Heathrow to try to find a BA employee who could help. I was horrified by the lengths he had been forced to go to in his condition, so I stepped in on your behalf, first asking BA to get its act together. I am pleased to say BA issued the missing document the same day and apologised for your experience. Staysure escalated the case to its underwriters who agreed to settle immediately due to the exceptional circumstances. Within two days you had received £3,931 in your account – your booking cost minus the refunded airport taxes and the insurance excess of £180. Your husband told me there were no words to express his relief and thanked me for my intervention. I wish you both the very best. Straight to the point I switched my energy supplier from in October and sent the utility firm a final payment of £125.10. But it later sent me a bill for £235 for October, despite having switched provider by then. It offered me a £156 discount for the bill but I don't think I should owe anything. B.M., Suffolk. apologises and says your new energy supplier took an incorrect meter reading. You have been offered £150 as a goodwill gesture. *** Late last year the recliner mechanism in my SCS sofa broke. I paid an SCS technician £75 to repair it but it broke again two days later. The technician has visited again but could not fix it. The supplier of the recliner parts is now no longer in business so SCS offered me a 50 per cent refund of what I paid for the sofa. That was in March – I've heard nothing since. E.B., via email. SCS apologises and has now refunded you. It says it sent you a response but this never reached you. *** In November I ordered an iPhone 16 on a 24-month contract, paying £29 upfront and £37.99 each month. When it arrived the box looked like it had been tampered with and was empty except for the charging cable. My provider won't cancel the contract and says the parcel had the phone inside when it left the warehouse. C.F., Fife. Your provider has now sent you a replacement phone and refunded the money you have already paid towards the bill. *** My son bought me a £75 voucher as a Christmas present. When I came to spend it I was told the card had already been validated. Its customer service has reloaded the card – but only with £26. E.A., Hampshire. The remaining £49 has now been credited to the voucher. Write to Sally Hamilton at Sally Sorts It, Money Mail, Northcliffe House, 2 Derry Street, London W8 5TT or email sally@ — include phone number, address and a note addressed to the offending organisation giving them permission to talk to Sally Hamilton. Please do not send original documents as we cannot take responsibility for them. No legal responsibility can be accepted by the Daily Mail for answers given.
Yahoo
24-04-2025
- Business
- Yahoo
Bust legal firm's clients in home ownership battle
Clients of a law firm that collapsed have spoken about their years-long battle to regain ownership of their homes. The collapse in 2021 of McClure saw some owners with homes in trusts struggling to sell them while others faced thousands of pounds in legal costs. The include Judi Brown, who paid the Scotland-based solicitors more than £3,000 to set up a trust to take ownership of her house in Ludlow, Shropshire, to avoid possible future inheritance issues. Mrs Brown said she was able to dissolve her trust and recover the additional costs, but worried others may not be as fortunate. Police Scotland have said however that no criminality had been established. McClure had specialised in work such as wills and trusts and it is believed around 18,000 family protection trusts were taken out by people in England and Wales. Trusts are used by thousands of people as a way of managing assets like property or money and some people set them up in the hope it will protect their home from being sold to pay for care home fees. Mrs Brown said she and her husband set theirs up to avoid the possibility of something called "sideways disinheritance". She said that is a situation in which a family can lose the right to their inheritance if one partner dies and another partner subsequently re-marries and then passes away. At the time, she said they had "no reason to think there was any problem at all with that". After putting a home into a trust, it is the trustees who own it but they have to follow the purpose for which it was set up. In cases where McClure solicitors are still named as trustees on a client's home, they legally do not own the property and cannot sell it. When the company went bust another firm called Jones Whyte took on its files. Mrs Brown said they paid Jones Whyte to dissolve their trust agreement, using money they received from a complaint to the Legal Ombudsman. Their house is now back in their own names and she said of the trust arrangement: "In the end we just thought we want rid of [it]." But she added: "I'm lucky that I'm young enough, I've got enough time available, I've got the digital wherewithal to go online and research, to do these things for myself." She said she believed older clients, including her parents generation, may be unable to do the same as her and would be left "very, very vulnerable". Tom Sterling, of Newcastle, Shropshire, also had his house placed in a trust by McClure and said he had "quite a traumatic time" when he tried to move house after the firm went bust. He said he and his wife only realised there was a problem when they tried to sell the house and realised they couldn't, because the two trustees appointed by firm were registered as the owners. Mr Sterling said his solicitors were unable to locate them, but he was able to track them down online. His son contacted the pair, and persuaded them to sign paperwork to give Mr and Mrs Sterling control of their property again. Mr Sterling said at one point he was "so stressed" he almost called the move to Market Drayton in Shropshire off, but his son convinced him to go ahead. He encouraged others in similar positions to use the internet to contact their trustees. The Solicitors' Regulation Authority (SRA), which is based in Birmingham, said it was monitoring Jones Whyte (JW), to "make sure that they are improving and meeting their commitments to clients". It said it was concerned about the time it said JW had been taking to contact clients and address their queries and had placed the company on formal compliance plan. JW said it had been working closely with the SRA on "agreed timescales to support previous clients of McClure", but disagreed it had taken too long. "The situation is more complex than it would appear at first glance as a result of difficult circumstances following the McClure administration and a changing regulatory environment," a spokesperson said. JW also said it was not a successor firm and McClure's former clients were free to instruct a solicitor of their choosing. The former managing director of McClure previously denied any clients were misled to pay for a trust, and blamed the firm's demise on the Covid pandemic. The Legal Ombudsman is dealing with complaints from McClure clients in England and Wales and the Scottish Legal Complaints Commission deals with complaints in Scotland. Follow BBC Shropshire on BBC Sounds, Facebook, X and Instagram. Police drop probe into law firm collapse Collapsed law firm client feels 'cheated' Families 'out of pocket' after law firm collapse Legal 'nightmare' after law firm goes bust Calls for inquiry into collapse of law firm Law Society of Scotland Solicitors Regulation Authority Jones Whyte
BBC News
24-04-2025
- Business
- BBC News
Collapsed legal firm McClure's clients in home ownership battle
Clients of a law firm that collapsed have spoken about their years-long battle to regain ownership of their collapse in 2021 of McClure saw some owners with homes in trusts struggling to sell them while others faced thousands of pounds in legal include Judi Brown, who paid the Scotland-based solicitors more than £3,000 to set up a trust to take ownership of her house in Ludlow, Shropshire, to avoid possible future inheritance Brown said she was able to dissolve her trust and recover the additional costs, but worried others may not be as fortunate. Police Scotland have said however that no criminality had been established. McClure had specialised in work such as wills and trusts and it is believed around 18,000 family protection trusts were taken out by people in England and are used by thousands of people as a way of managing assets like property or money and some people set them up in the hope it will protect their home from being sold to pay for care home Brown said she and her husband set theirs up to avoid the possibility of something called "sideways disinheritance".She said that is a situation in which a family can lose the right to their inheritance if one partner dies and another partner subsequently re-marries and then passes the time, she said they had "no reason to think there was any problem at all with that". 'We thought we want rid of it' After putting a home into a trust, it is the trustees who own it but they have to follow the purpose for which it was set cases where McClure solicitors are still named as trustees on a client's home, they legally do not own the property and cannot sell the company went bust another firm called Jones Whyte took on its Brown said they paid Jones Whyte to dissolve their trust agreement, using money they received from a complaint to the Legal house is now back in their own names and she said of the trust arrangement: "In the end we just thought we want rid of [it]."But she added: "I'm lucky that I'm young enough, I've got enough time available, I've got the digital wherewithal to go online and research, to do these things for myself."She said she believed older clients, including her parents generation, may be unable to do the same as her and would be left "very, very vulnerable". Tom Sterling, of Newcastle, Shropshire, also had his house placed in a trust by McClure and said he had "quite a traumatic time" when he tried to move house after the firm went said he and his wife only realised there was a problem when they tried to sell the house and realised they couldn't, because the two trustees appointed by firm were registered as the Sterling said his solicitors were unable to locate them, but he was able to track them down son contacted the pair, and persuaded them to sign paperwork to give Mr and Mrs Sterling control of their property Sterling said at one point he was "so stressed" he almost called the move to Market Drayton in Shropshire off, but his son convinced him to go encouraged others in similar positions to use the internet to contact their trustees. The Solicitors' Regulation Authority (SRA), which is based in Birmingham, said it was monitoring Jones Whyte (JW), to "make sure that they are improving and meeting their commitments to clients".It said it was concerned about the time it said JW had been taking to contact clients and address their queries and had placed the company on formal compliance plan. 'Changing regulatory environment' JW said it had been working closely with the SRA on "agreed timescales to support previous clients of McClure", but disagreed it had taken too long."The situation is more complex than it would appear at first glance as a result of difficult circumstances following the McClure administration and a changing regulatory environment," a spokesperson also said it was not a successor firm and McClure's former clients were free to instruct a solicitor of their former managing director of McClure previously denied any clients were misled to pay for a trust, and blamed the firm's demise on the Covid Legal Ombudsman is dealing with complaints from McClure clients in England and Wales and the Scottish Legal Complaints Commission deals with complaints in Scotland. Follow BBC Shropshire on BBC Sounds, Facebook, X and Instagram.
BBC News
25-02-2025
- Business
- BBC News
Police probe into McClure law firm collapse dropped
Police have dropped a criminal investigation into a legal firm that left thousands of people with difficulties when it went solicitors, founded in Greenock in 1853, had tens of thousands of clients across the UK and specialised in work such as wills and collapse in 2021 meant some people with homes in trusts struggled to sell them while others faced thousands of pounds in legal Scotland confirmed no criminality had been established. McClure went bust in 2021 and another firm called Jones Whyte took on its company had 84 staff at offices in Glasgow city centre and Greenock and 13 satellite offices around Scotland and England. It is believed around 18,000 family protection trusts were taken out by people in England and are used by thousands of people as a way of managing assets like property or people set them up in the hope it will protect their home from being sold to pay for care home fees. Clients left with "legal nightmare After putting a home into a trust, it is the trustees who own it but they have to follow the purpose for which it was set cases where McClure solicitors are still named as trustees on a client's home, they legally do not own the property and cannot sell it, leaving some clients with a "legal nightmare".The firm's former managing director previously denied that any clients were misled to pay for a trust, and blamed the firm's demise on the Covid pandemic.A Police Scotland spokesperson confirmed they had received "information and documentation" about McClure.A spokesman said: "It has been assessed and no criminality has been established. "The complainers have been updated."The Legal Ombudsman is dealing with complaints from McClure clients in England and Wales and the Scottish Legal Complaints Commission deals with complaints in Scotland.
