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Toxic ‘submariner' daters resurface — like nothing ever happened: ‘Worse than ghosting'
Toxic ‘submariner' daters resurface — like nothing ever happened: ‘Worse than ghosting'

New York Post

time3 days ago

  • Entertainment
  • New York Post

Toxic ‘submariner' daters resurface — like nothing ever happened: ‘Worse than ghosting'

First, they vanish into the dating deep. Then, months later, they're back in your DMs — like nothing ever happened. Welcome to the maddening world of 'submarining' — a toxic, resurfacing trend where ghosters pop up from your past, acting like their sudden radio silence was no biggie. Advertisement 4 Say hello to 'submarining' — the infuriating dating trend in which ghosters suddenly resurface like nothing ever happened. Mdv Edwards – 'They want someone to talk to and make them feel good about themselves,' Gigi Engle, certified sex coach and author of 'All the F*cking Mistakes: A Guide to Sex, Love, and Life,' previously told Men's Health. 'It's pretty unlikely that it's because this person actually cares about you.' Advertisement They aren't exactly rare, either. Submariners — also known as 'zombie daters' — typically ghost without explanation, only to boomerang back into your life like nothing went wrong. Think: 'Hey, stranger' six months after you cried in your Uber home. 4 Submariners — aka 'zombie daters' — vanish without warning, then suddenly pop back up in your DMs like their ghosting spree was totally chill. POOL/AFP via Getty Images 'People may choose to resurface for a lot of reasons, but more often than not, it's out of insecurity or boredom,' Engle said. Advertisement Worse, they never acknowledge their vanishing act — no apology, no closure — just a creepy illusion that the last few months of your life didn't happen. According to Dr. Wendy Walsh, Ph.D., a psychology professor and relationship expert at it's not just flaky — it's prehistoric. 'Evolutionarily speaking, having 'backup mates' is a very common human mating strategy,' she told PureWow. 'Submariners often crave intimacy but are terrified of the vulnerability it requires,' she explained. Advertisement 'A submariner wants to put somebody on the back burner so they can reach out to them later when they feel lonely.' However, experts warn: Don't bite when they breadcrumb. 4 Most submariners disappear without a trace, a ghostly gaslight that makes you question if those last few months even existed. Ester – 'You've already grieved them for a while; just let them go and move on,' Engle advised. 'If someone is actually into you, they don't disappear out of nowhere.' Submarining joins a long list of bizarre and brutal dating behaviors swimming around the app era — ghosting, love-bombing, fizzing and, more recently, 'shallowing.' As The Post previously reported, 'shallowing' may sound like a harmless beach activity, but it's a rising sex trend involving playful 'outercourse' fun — and, yes, it's just as real as being haunted by your emotionally unavailable ex. Advertisement Sexual wellness brand LELO even listed it as one of the top sex trends of 2024. In fact, a 2021 survey of more than 4,000 women — by Indiana University and intimacy site OMGYES — revealed that nearly 84% of U.S. women found increased pleasure from this intimate form of stimulation. While some are exploring shallow waters, others are diving deep into submarine-infested territory — and many are using tech to navigate both. 'It's important that anyone with questions about sex and pleasure can receive answers from trusted sources,' said Verena Singmann, spokesperson for sex-toy purveyor We-Vibe. Advertisement 'Technology can be a helpful tool when it comes to sex and pleasure, but AI doesn't always know best when it comes to our sexual health and wellbeing.' 4 Submarining is just the latest freaky fish in the toxic dating sea — right up there with ghosting, love-bombing, fizzing and the newest similarly named trend: 'shallowing.' kleberpicui – Bottom line: When a former flame who ghosted you suddenly reemerges like they're starring in their own reboot, treat them like the shipwreck they are. Advertisement They didn't just get 'busy.' They got bored — and experts say you deserve better than being someone's Plan B with Wi-Fi.

Gen Z found an ingenious way to cash in on their endless doomscrolling
Gen Z found an ingenious way to cash in on their endless doomscrolling

New York Post

time20-05-2025

  • Business
  • New York Post

Gen Z found an ingenious way to cash in on their endless doomscrolling

They're turning doomscrolling into dollars. Gen Z — the generation glued to their screens for nearly seven hours a day — has found a way to cash in on their scroll time: selling their personal data. Generation Lab, a youth polling company, just launched a cheekily named new venture called that pays young people to let an app track their every digital move — from what they browse to what they binge — all in the name of market research. Advertisement 5 Gen Z spends all day glued to their phones — now they're getting paid for it by selling their digital lives to the highest bidder. maxbelchenko – 'We think corporations have extracted user data without fairly compensating people for their own data,' Cyrus Beschloss, CEO of Generation Lab, said per Axios. 'We think users should know exactly what data they're giving us and should feel good about what they're receiving in return.' Advertisement In this case, that 'something' is cash. The app can pay $50 or more per month, depending on activity — simply for installing a tracker that builds a 'digital twin' to answer queries for clients ranging from political groups to venture capitalists. 'For decades, market research has been the equivalent of a doctor asking a patient to describe their symptoms. VERB is an MRI machine,' the company's pitch deck boasts. It's the latest example of Gen Z flipping the script on data exploitation. Instead of being tracked for free, they're getting a paycheck — and they're not mad about it. Advertisement 5 A youth polling firm just dropped a slick new side hustle called — and it's paying Gen Z to let an app snoop on everything from their scrolls to their streams. Mdv Edwards – 'Eighty-eight percent of Gen Z is open to sharing personal information with social media companies,' according to eMarketer, 20 points higher than older generations. And they're not just watching content — they're inhaling it. Gen Z consumes more content than any other age group, clocking nearly seven hours per day (6.6 to be exact), according to a recent Talker Research study. Advertisement 5 The app shells out $50 or more a month just for slapping a tracker on your phone — one that builds a 'digital twin' to spill your secrets to politicos and VCs. Pixels Hunter – Some even binge for 15 hours or more. They're also shelling out big bucks — around $97.70 a month — on streaming services and subscriptions. No surprise, then, that nearly two-thirds of Gen Z say they consume 'too much' media, with 66% admitting they feel overwhelmed by the constant barrage. 5 Gen Z is glued to their screens more than anyone else, clocking nearly seven hours of daily doomscrolling, according to a Talker Research study. Seventyfour – 'The first step is to figure out what's causing the excessive content consumption in the first place,' explained Natasha Thapar-Olmos, Ph.D., associate professor of psychology at Pepperdine University, as per South West News Service. 'Without understanding the cause, efforts to intervene will be less effective. Try keeping a log of when the behavior tends to happen and any patterns in what might precede it.' But instead of guilt-tripping, many are monetizing. Advertisement Still, while they're open to sharing, Gen Z also wants boundaries. A 2022 McKinsey study found they're more likely than older adults to pay for privacy protections or wipe their data once they're done with a service — proof they want control, not surveillance. 5 Gen Z may sell their data — but they're not suckers. A 2022 McKinsey study found they're more likely than boomers to pay for privacy or wipe their tracks clean. jittawit.21 – Advertisement If nothing else, selling your data is giving 'selling plasma' energy — except now, the only thing bleeding is your battery. With a goal of reaching 5,000 users by fall, Verb is banking on one very Gen Z truth: if they're already being watched, they'd rather turn Big Data into big bucks.

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