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3 days ago
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Magnus Carlsen grills Elon Musk's Grok 4 as OpenAI's o3 crushes it 4-0: 'Learnt theory, knows nothing else'
Grok 4 was the strongest among eight AI models competing in the exhibition tournament hosted on Google's Kaggle Game Arena, storming into the final only to suffer a 0-4 thrashing at the hands of o3 in the final. read more Magnus Carlsen couldn't help but slam Grok 4, developed by the Elon Musk-owned X for its performance in a chess game against OpenAI's o3. Image: Grand Chess Tour/Reuters Chess world No 1 Magnus Carlsen did not hold back while roasting Elon Musk after his AI model Grok 4 was thrashed 4-0 by Sam Altman-founded OpenAI's o3 during an AI chess exhibition tournament. Grok 4 was among eight general purpose large language models competing on Google's Kaggle Game Arena alongside Google's Gemini 2.5 Pro and Gemini 2.5 Flash, Open AI's o3 and o4-mini, Claude 4 Opus (Anthropic), DeepSeek R1 and Kimi k2 (Moonshot AI). STORY CONTINUES BELOW THIS AD And while Grok 4 did go the distance by reaching the final, it made a series of questionable decisions in the final against o3 that did not escape the attention of Carlsen, who was commentating on the game along with British Grandmaster David Howell on Take Take Take. 'This is like watching kids' games. In those tournaments you always play them out,' Carlsen told Howell when Grok 4 was trailing 0-3 and was about to play the fourth and final game as well despite the unassailable lead. 'Hope everyone feels better about their games after watching this,' he added. The Norwegian GM would then go on to compare Grok to a player who was all theory but had little skills otherwise. 'Oh my God. Nooo. Nooo. The combination of knight g4 and queen a2…Yeah now you clearly have somebody… there's always that one guy in the club as well who's learned theory and literally nothing else. Just makes the worst blunders after that. Come on!' Carlsen continued during the commentary. "Oh god, nooo, nooo." @grok shows off with a classic Botez Gambit in game 2. — Take Take Take (@TakeTakeTakeApp) August 7, 2025 STORY CONTINUES BELOW THIS AD Carlsen compares Grok and o3's style of play Carlsen also couldn't help but compare the two AI models and their way of calculating moves. 'I'm not loving the fact that o3 didn't prepare for the game. It's literally going to the board, 'What am I going to play? What am I going to play? I'm going to play d6, e6, knight c6, maybe g6, oh knight f6, maybe I'm going to do that. Okay I'll play d6.' And then Grok is just like, 'I don't know, d4',' Carlsen said during commentary. 'You basically summed up the two types of chess player out there in the world, right?' said Howell in reply. Grok 4 was the most dominant of the eight AI models participating in the AI chess event right up until the final, where it committed a series of blunders starting with the opening game itself. As for the third spot, Gemini 2.5 Pro defeated o4-mini 3.5-0.5 to win the bronze medal. STORY CONTINUES BELOW THIS AD
Indian Express
6 days ago
- Entertainment
- Indian Express
Which is the smartest AI model? A chess tournament might hold the answer
Starting from Tuesday, a unique chess tournament might offer the answer to the question on everyone's mind: which is the smartest artificial intelligence (AI) model. The chess tournament, to be played over three days on Kaggle Game Arena, in partnership with Google DeepMind. The tournament will also have world no 2 chess player Hikaru Nakamura doing livestreams of the action on his Twitch channel with his insights while world no 1 Magnus Carlsen will do an event-ending recap for the Take Take Take app. Popular chess streamer Levy Rozman (known popularly as Gotham Chess) will also be doing daily recaps and analysis videos on his YouTube channel. The event will feature eight of the world's leading AI models: Gemini 2.5 Pro (Google), Gemini 2.5 Flash (Google), o3 (OpenAI), o4-mini (OpenAI), Claude 4 Opus (Anthropic), Grok 4 (xAI), DeepSeek R1 and Kimi k2 (Moonshot AI). Elon Musk, who is the man behind Grok, was slammed by chess players last year for his opinion about chess. 'Computers are so much better than humans at chess, it's absurd. I predict that chess will be essentially fully solved (like checkers) within 10 years,' he had posted on X in May last year. He had also spoken in an interview about playing chess for his school chess team. 'I was on the school chess team. But I find that chess is a simple game frankly. I mean you only have 64 squares. I was pretty good at chess as a kid. I won every game.' Responding to Musk's comments about never losing at chess and it being a simple sport, Nakamura had said: 'Anybody who says they had never lost at chess, you know something (fishy) is going on! Back in the 90s machine vs human and machine vs machine chess tournaments (such as the Top Chess Engine Championship or Computer Chess Championship) used to be quote popular. But after the machines grew too strong, the events ran out of steam and were discontinued. The event will be help with help from popular streaming platform and Google DeepMind, which gave the world the chess-playing computer program AlphaZero in 2017. AlphaZero is a neural network that became really strong in the sport by playing millions of games against itself for four hours. In fact, AlphaZero was able to outperform Stockfish 8, which was back then one of the strongest chess programs, just four hours after being fed the rules of chess and being told to learn by playing simulations against itself. When AlphaZero and Stockfish played a 100-game match, AlphaZero won or drew all of the games.
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30-07-2025
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'I treat it as I am playing from home': Carlsen reflects on unique experience of playing at Esports World Cup
Magnus Carlsen enjoyed a fruitful day as he reached the quarter-finals of the chess tournament at Esports World Cup 2025. He also reflected on the uniqueness of the tournament. read more Magnus Carlsen reached the quarter-finals of the chess tournament at Esports World Cup 2025 without much issue. Image: Esports World Cup 2025 World No.1 Magnus Carlsen enjoyed the first day out at the Esports World Cup 2025 in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, competing as chess made its debut at the event on Tuesday. The first day of the inaugural chess tournament at the Esports World Cup 2025 began with the group stage matches. The 34-year-old Carlsen topped Group D after beating Nodirbek Abdusattorov and Jan-Krzysztof Duda as he reached the quarter-finals. Besides the five-time world champion Carlsen, Levon Aronian (Group A), India's Arjun Erigaisi (Group B) and Alireza Firouzja (Group C) also qualified for the quarter-finals. STORY CONTINUES BELOW THIS AD Also Read | Explained: Why chess and Carlsen's appearance at Esports World Cup 2025 is causing controversy Four more players will join them after fighting it out in the Losers Brackets playoffs. Ian Nepomniachtchi, Vladislav Artemiev and Andrey Esipenko from Group A; Anish Giri, Nihal Sarin and Maxime Vachier-Lagrave from Group B; Javokhir Sindarov, Wei Yi and Hikaru Nakamura from Group C; and Abdusattorov, Fabiano Caruana and Duda from Group D can still reach the last eight stage. The unique things about the chess tournament at the Esports World Cup are that players are required to play the matches online, sitting in front of each other. They are required to use noise-cancelling headphones due to the presence of the live audience and the music playing in the arena. Carlsen speaks on unique Esports World Cup experience The unique format, where the matches are being played in a 10-minute Rapid format without any time increment, also increases the challenge for the players. 'These games were incredibly complicated and definitely out of control at times. But at the end of the day you only need to play better than your opponent. When it's complicated then both players are going to make mistakes. I felt for the most part that I was in the driver's seat,' Carlsen told Take Take Take, talking about the challenge of playing in front of a live audience and amid blaring music from speakers. 'I don't know if it's helping my game (having the crowd on the main stage). But it's nice to have with the set-up: the noise-cancellation, with the music and everything. I sort of treat it as if I am playing from home,' Carlsen added. The chess tournament at the Esports World Cup 2025 has a total prize pool of $1.5 million, with the winner set to earn $25,000.
Indian Express
30-07-2025
- Entertainment
- Indian Express
‘Was out of control at times': Magnus Carlsen after reaching Esports World Cup quarter-finals
Magnus Carlsen made it to the quarter-finals of the chess event at the Esports World Cup being played at Saudi Arabia's Riaydh along with Arjun Erigaisi (Group B), Alireza Firouzja (Group C) and Levon Aronian (Group A). Carlsen, representing Team Liquid, qualified from Group D. Carlsen had a win and a draw against Nodirbek Abdusattorov and Jan-Krzysztof Duda to make the cut for the quarter-finals. Carlsen said that making the cut got a little complicated in the end. 'These games were incredibly complicated and definitely out of control at times. But at the end of the day you only need to play better than your opponent. When it's complicated then both players are going to make mistakes. I felt for the most part that I was in the driver's seat,' Carlsen said in an interview with Take Take Take. The Esports World Cup, where chess is making its debut, is being played in a unique set-up: with players wearing noise cancelling headphones, two players sitting face to face while playing on computers on a grand stage while being cheered on by live audiences. There is also music playing. Another unique feature of the tournament is that there are no increments which means players can lose by flagging (time running out on their clocks). 'I don't know if it's helping my game (having the crowd on the main stage). But it's nice to have with the set-up: the noise-cancellation, with the music and everything. I sort of treat it as if I am playing from home,' Carlsen smiled. Carlsen, Erigaisi, Aronian and Firouzja await the four other quarter-finalists who will come from the Losers Brackets: Ian Nepomniachtchi, Vladislav Artemiev, and Andrey Esipenko in Group A, Anish Giri, Nihal Sarin, and Maxime Vachier-Lagrave in Group B, Javokhir Sindarov, Wei Yi, and Hikaru Nakamura in Group C and Nodirbek Abdusattorov, Fabiano Caruana, and Jan-Krzysztof Duda in Group D.
India Today
07-07-2025
- Sport
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Magnus Carlsen wins Grand Chess Tour Zagreb: My B-game is enough
World No. 1 Magnus Carlsen reacted to his SuperUnited Rapid and Blitz win in Croatia on Sunday, July 6. After the final standings of the tournament were made official, Carlsen said on social media that his 'B-game was enough' on days when others did not do something who lost the Rapid title in the competition to India's D. Gukesh, came back strongly in the Blitz section of the tournament, helping him win the combined title. He took a dig at his critics with a meme before deleting the nobody else has a great performance, my B-game is usually enough. Always striving for more though!' Magnus tweeted out for the second time after his win. Carlsen had earlier complained about not enjoying his chess during the Rapid round. Even after his win in Zagreb, Magnus sounded unconvinced, stating that it did not feel like he had won.'It doesn't feel like I've won, really. It feels like I just came here, played alright, and nobody really did anything special in the end, and then I usually end up winning!' Magnus told Take Take Take app in an his poor outing in Rapid, the Blitz portion brought a complete reversal of fortunes. Gukesh lost five of his first six Blitz games on Day 1, drawing one and winning just one. His rhythm was off, nerves visible, and the crisp precision of his Rapid games was nowhere to be found. A final-round loss to compatriot R. Praggnanandhaa capped a disappointing Blitz performance that saw him lose six games on the first day stark contrast, Carlsen unleashed what he later called a 'decisive' run, scoring 7.5/9 on the opening Blitz day to erase Gukesh's lead and seize control of the leaderboard.'I felt that I struggled most of the event. Partly because it was a very strong field this year. There weren't a lot of weaker players at all. It wasn't obvious who was going to score poorly and who was going to score well against the others. It felt like, especially in Rapid, chances were kind of hard to come by. I had one good day yesterday (the first day of the Blitz section on Saturday) and that turned out to be enough,' Carlsen told the broadcaster in an interview on the final went on to add: 'It speaks to the fact that it was a fairly even tournament overall. Nobody could really break away from the pack. It doesn't feel like I won. It feels like I just came here and played alright. Nobody really did anything special in the end. Then I usually end up winning,' he concluded.- EndsTrending Reel
