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14-07-2025
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‘Poker Face' Boss Rian Johnson Delighted in That Finale Cliffhanger Tease: 'Peacock Was a Little Nervous'
[This story contains major spoilers from the season two finale of , 'The End of the Road.'] Hopefully, you kept watching after Poker Face nearly ended its second season with a big 'To Be Continued.' Creator Rian Johnson was confident viewers would stick with the episode — but he says Peacock was a little nervous. More from The Hollywood Reporter How to Watch the 2025 World Aquatics Championships Online Without Cable 'Love Island USA' Contestant Cierra Ortega Addresses Exit From Season 7 After Surfacing of Racist Post: "I Am Not a Victim" Rian Johnson's Hotly Anticipated 'Wake Up Dead Man' to Open BFI London Film Festival 'I was just giggling in the edit room getting the timing of that exactly right with Natasha,' Johnson, who created, writes and directs on the Natasha Lyonne-starring series, tells The Hollywood Reporter of the finale's cliffhanger gag. 'Peacock was a little nervous. They were like, 'Do you have to put To Be Continued?' I was like, 'I think it will be fine.' It's another great harkening back to the commercial break cuts that I grew up with [on TV shows] as a kid. A car would go off the ramp at the Universal backlot, the show would freeze frame and it would be like, 'How are they going to get out of this one!'' Taking inspiration from the finale's episode title — 'The End of the Road' — it sure seemed to be the end of the road for Charlie, both literally and spiritually, when the protagonist played by Lyonne and this season's surprise antagonist, played by Patti Harrison, drove off a cliff in Charlie's iconic Plymouth Barracuda. As her vintage, sky blue 1969 ride was mid-air — and all hope seemed dashed for the heroine of this murder-of-the-week series — those tantalizing words appeared onscreen: 'To Be Continued.' But after the show cut to black, the Barracuda returned onscreen and Poker Face played out the rest of the ending to reveal that Charlie escaped before the car took its cliff jump. Unfortunately, Harrison's villain, Alex a.k.a world-famous hired killed 'Iguana,' also wasn't killed in the accident (at least, we never see a body). But damage is done. Charlie's FBI pal (Simon Helberg) gives her a head start in the season's most heartbreaking scene as Charlie downloads the fact that she is now, once again, a wanted fugitive by the FBI. She ends the season exactly where she began the series — on the run. Only this time, she doesn't have her Barracuda. Viewers last see her hitching a ride to Kansas, dog in tow (played by Lyonne's real dog, Root Beer). A third season hasn't yet been greenlit, so Johnson and Lyonne, along with season two showrunner Tony Tost, have some time to figure out what Charlie's life will look like back on the run. In the meantime, Johnson talked to THR below about casting Harrison as the unexpected big bad this season, how Lyonne dove into both playing out and directing this surprising season-ender, and why they decided to blow up their show's format yet again. *** You told me I would be surprised by these final two episodes and I was, thanks for the tip! Oh, good. Good, good, good. about why you guys wanted to shed the big bad-chasing-Charlie plot of season one, and this season largely . But then these final two episodes introduced a surprising villain, someone who can actually lie to Charlie and go undetected, who sets up this ending of Charlie being a fugitive again. When in the writers room did you land on this arc to end the season? It was around the middle of breaking the season and writing the episodes. It was a build up of us wanting to try out a couple of different things and see if they would work in the Poker Face world. The first was: could Charlie have a sidekick, a Watson? The idea of doing a two-parter was an idea I was interested in. It was very much like the [classic] TV that this show is based on, and we wanted to see if we could pull that off with a Poker Face episode. Then it was Laura Deely, who ended up writing the finale, who came up with the pitch: 'What if we introduce a character who seems like Watson, but ends up being Moriarty?' Another thing floating around in our heads was what a character would look like who could actually lie to Charlie. So all of those things came together. Now having seen that it does work to have Charlie a little more static, it also seemed fun and invigorating to then shake the box at the end of the season and put us in a place where we can be some place fresh [when we come back]. Natasha played this ending so devastatingly. It's written all over her face in her final conversation with FBI Agent Luca (Simon Helberg) when she realizes, after an existential but somewhat lighter season where she had this second lease on life, that she now has to go back to a life on the run. Did Natasha take any convincing when you landed on this ending? No, she was really, really into it. Having an uprooting and a real emotional place to play the final episode, Natasha was really, really into that. [Note: Lyonne also directed the finale.] She likes to dig in. She likes to have something to really chew on. In her direction and performance of that final scene between Charlie and Luca, she brings so much to it. You can see that she is just diving into the pool, so yeah, she was really excited. You of calling up a lot of your friends to play guest parts. Did you audition for the Iguana/Alex role, or did you have Patti Harrison in mind for this villain? We auditioned different actors for this part, and Patti was someone who I had met before who had read for other things and who I had always liked. Clea DuVall really suggested that we think about Patti for this part, and Patti first shows up in episode 10, which Clea [who also played Charlie's sister in season one] directed. But casting Patti was a much bigger thing, because we knew where this character was going to go and how big of a part she was going to play. We were describing all the traits we wanted the character to have — you have to genuinely buy them as someone you want Charlie to be with, and then it also has to make sense when they make the turn — and Clea said we should really look at Patti and she was right. We read a bunch of actors and Patti had that combination of factors. After Iguana/Alex revealed that she could lie to Charlie, and when she was trying to lie to her in their final drive, I was analyzing Patti's facial expressions and realized it would be a fun task to go back and try to spot her tells. Did you want to drop us hints along the way, would we notice if we went back? A little bit. Patti asked me about that. When I met with her before we cast her, I pitched her the character so she knew where it was going, and she asked how ambiguously she should play it and if she should drop hints. My take was for her to just play it straight. I thought there would be ambiguity if you go back and watch it, but this woman is incredibly good at her job. If she's good enough to fool Charlie, then you have to fool the audience as good as you can in those few episodes. I'm not sure if she personally threw a couple hints in there, but what we landed on was playing this as if it is what it is on the surface. We don't see her body after the car crash. We see that Charlie escapes, but Iguana has disappeared. The rules of television tell us that means she is not dead, at least not yet. (Laughs.) Yes, that's the cue! Is your hope to bring her back, and how much does this open the door to what you can do in a third season with her, considering she can successfully lie to Charlie (who is a human lie detector)? Yes, it absolutely does. The notion that this person is out there somewhere in the world and Charlie Cale has her Moriarty, her Lex Luthor, is very exciting. It opens up a whole realm of possibilities, and also I adore Patti. I think she's so talented and wonderful, and the idea of finding a way to loop her back in would be very, very cool. Can you talk me through how you landed on your 'To be Continued' cliffhanger — which you then pulled back and answered by showing us that Charlie escapes before her Plymouth Baracuda goes off the cliff? Did you have fun messing with us, Rian?! (Laughs) I was just giggling in the edit room getting the timing of that exactly right with Natasha. It brings me so much joy, because I know that we are going to play fair after that break. I hope nobody stops watching after that! Peacock was a little nervous about that. They were like, 'Ehh, do you have to put To Be Continued?' I was like, 'I think it will be fine.' But it's another great harkening back to the commercial break cuts that I grew up with [on TV shows] as a kid. A car would go off the ramp at the Universal backlot, the show would freeze frame and it would be like, 'How are they going to get out of this one!' 'Tune in next week!' Exactly. It was something that I thought was delightful, and hopefully it wasn't too temporarily frustrating! Did you actually destroy the car? No, we didn't. I'm sure it was briefly discussed and our line producer, Jeff Bernstein, pulled us back from the edge. Does that mean you could revive the car, or are you putting that ride to rest? I don't think so. I think we're going to put it to rest. It's a beautiful car. It's also a car that means a lot to Natasha and me. But it also was a huge pain in the ass to film with! It would really never start right when we were losing the light. The instant it started raining, the windshield wipers would not work. The idea of getting Charlie a nice, reliable Honda Accord — an iconic Honda Accord — that sounds perfect for next season. Your final shot of the season left us looking at the road, after Charlie hitches a ride with a trucker who is heading to Kansas. Why did you want that to be the final shot? It felt really good ending it by putting Charlie back on the road. It was a little bit of an experiment for us in the writers room about if the show could function with her being in one place with the pressure off, and I think the answer, for us at least, was that it could. I thought it was a really fun season. The show, at the heart of it, still really works. But at the end of the day, there's something about her character that just feels nice being out on the highway and the Americana of that. I thought Natasha did that so beautifully with the wintery road and with her [real] dog, Root Beer. Even after all of this, Charlie can't let this pain-in-the-ass little dog freeze in the road. It just seemed like nice Americana energy to end with. And Root Beer is such a ham. Where are you now with talks about season three? And did you approach this finale like it could be the end of the show? Well, you never know how something is going to do, and honestly, I have a feeling those conversations are just about to start, so we'll see. I don't want to count any chickens. But you never know, especially with television today, and that's the balancing act. You leave it open in case you're lucky enough to come back, and have it end on a place that is satisfying if things don't go that way. The episodes dropped weekly, so this season got to play out over two months. You get to engage in the viewer reaction and also, I imagine, get some viewership feedback from Peacock along the way. How do you feel this season was received? First of all, I love the [weekly] rollout, because the show really does function almost more as an anthology than a serialized show, and it gives each guest star and guest director a chance to shine each week. It's also the type of show that benefits from space. I don't think this is a show that's necessarily suited to binging or watching a bunch in a row. I think watching one and then taking a week to watch the next, there's something old-school TV about that that feels right. I also love the idea that there's now 22 episodes of it on Peacock, and someone who discovers it can watch ones they're interested in and go back and watch more. Ultimately, that's also the way that a lot of us discover TV now. It's on a streaming service, you can go through and there's a massive menu of all these great actors in all of these great episodes. It's fun to get time-released week by week, but I love that they are all up right now. You and Natasha are both busy with. If you come back for a third season, do you imagine you would come back quicker than the two year-plus break between seasons one and two? There was too much time between seasons one and two. But you are right. We're lucky enough to be very busy people. You just kind of dive in and see what you can figure out, but I would hope that we'd come back with a little more speediness. I know Peacock would hope that! You typically have ideas that don't make it in that you put aside for the future. You spoke before about the excitement of creating the show's unique format with season one and then — and now you broke it again to end the season. What excites you for season three? At the heart of it, what I'm excited about is the same thing I've been excited about from the start, which is not so much the trajectory about where the bigger story is going to go, but the blue sky of so many different types of episodes left to do. There are so many different worlds, Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood-style worlds, to explore. We could do a different profession every week and show the kids how the Post Office works. There's an element of that to the show. So it's less about the bigger direction for me, and more about how it's a massive, open sandbox. The notion of all the different types of episodes we can still do is really thrilling. Looking back, are there season two swings you took that you are learning from for a third season? Having just put it all up there, I'm still absorbing it myself, but I feel really proud of some of the bigger swings we took, like the grade school episode that I thought was really unique and fun. But then some of the more meat-and-potato episodes, like the baseball episode for example, is just a regular home-plate episode of what I always imagined the show would be, and I love that too. In the writers room, I try to encourage the writers to not think about what worked in the past year, but to think about, with each new episode, how can we surprise and delight the audience? How can we stretch what the show is with each one? So while I'm proud of them this season, that also means hopefully not repeating them next season. You left Simon Helberg, Taylor Schilling and Patti Harrison as viable actors whose characters could return for a season three. Would you like to dip back into your supporting cast pool, or recruit new? We did expand the roster a little bit. I love all those actors and, like you said, it's set up that we can use them down the line. They can definitely come back. But the one thing I really wanted to avoid doing was building ongoing characters and a bigger mythology that the audience had to keep track of. Part of the delight of the show for me is that if someone tells you, 'There's a great episode with Simon Rex and I think you'd love it because you love baseball,' you can dive in and watch it and you don't have to know what happened in the past two seasons to enjoy it. It's important even as the ongoing story continues that you don't even need to know it as you continue the show, and to lift that burden off the audiences' shoulders. It's balancing those two things. Coming from fandom, the idea of Taylor Schilling chasing down Natasha's Charlie Cale next season is fun. Are you keeping that option open? She's so awesome. Look, that would be an absolute blast. Taylor was someone who Natasha really wanted to bring in and we were really lucky to get her for that part. Maybe they all end up in jail together and we have a true reunion, we'll see! Next up you have the highly anticipated movie sequel, . Anything you can tease as a little tittle for fans? There are lots of tittles to come very, very soon. I don't want to speak too soon on it, but it's very different than the last movie in a way that I hope is going to be exciting for audiences. More to come! *** Poker Face is now streaming all episodes on Peacock. Best of The Hollywood Reporter 'The Studio': 30 Famous Faces Who Play (a Version of) Themselves in the Hollywood-Based Series 22 of the Most Shocking Character Deaths in Television History A 'Star Wars' Timeline: All the Movies and TV Shows in the Franchise
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10-07-2025
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- Geek Girl Authority
POKER FACE Season Finale Recap: (S02E12) The End of the Road
Poker Face Season 2 Episode 12, 'The End of the Road,' delivers an unsurprising twist in Alex being the Iguana, but it's still a devastating one all the same. The season finale deftly lays the groundwork for a potential third season while delivering fun homages to '70s films and that literal Thelma & Louise -themed cliffhanger. Cinematically, stylistically, it's a blast. Patti Harrison proves to be a delightful Moriarty to Natasha Lyonne's Sherlock. It's great to see her embracing a more serious role. 'The End of the Road' is solid, from beginning to end. RELATED: Read our recap of the previous Poker Face episode, 'Day of the Iguana' Poker Face, 'The End of the Road' We open with Charlie (Lyonne) and Alex (Harrison) on the road, en route to Beatrix Hasp's safe house in Greenville, Indiana. Alex pores over a large map, but still struggles to get them going in the right direction. She begs Charlie to turn on her phone so they can use the GPS. Naturally, Charlie is hesitant, what with the FBI, the five families and a mysterious, deadly assassin all on her tail. Still, she allows Alex to do it for a few minutes. That's when Luca (Simon Helberg) calls Charlie. Luca, who's with Agent Milligan (Taylor Schilling), explains that the Iguana killed Beatrix's son. Well, after the Iguana slaughtered the Iguana. As it turns out, Real Todd was an Iguana, and Fake Todd assumed his identity. Of course, she hasn't an inkling who that is. Luca adds that the Iguana is the deadliest assassin in the world, suspected of at least 50 assassinations. And now Charlie is leading him to Beatrix. That's why he framed Alex. It's all a setup. POKER FACE — 'The End of the Road' Season 2 Episode 12 — Pictured: (l-r) Taylor Schilling as Agent Milligan, Simon Helberg as Luca — (Photo by: Ralph Bavaro/PEACOCK) On the Lam Charlie orders Alex to cover her ears while she tells Luca that Beatrix's mafia bros are out for her. Luca texts Charlie footage of the prosthetics the Iguana used to transform into Fake Todd as they're washed away on the beach. Luca impresses the severity of the situation. If Alex dies and Charlie leads the Iguana to Beatrix, the FBI, CIA and NSA will be all over her. She'll spend the rest of her life in prison. RELATED: Poker Face Season 2: Our 6 Dream Guest Stars Luca demands to know Beatrix's location. Charlie refuses to disclose this, instead hanging up on him. Luca and Milligan lose connection with Charlie's phone. Milligan states there are over 25 safe houses in Indiana. Meanwhile, Charlie pulls over to think. Alex proposes they head to a diner to fuel up on food and concoct a new plan. Perhaps they don't need to run to Beatrix. Later, Charlie parks in the lot of a diner and a truck stop. Charlie and Alex nervously make a beeline for the entrance, realizing that anyone they encounter could be the Iguana. Alex heads to the bathroom while Charlie scopes out the diner patrons for anyone — and anything — suspicious. Alex returns with matching pink hats. You know, something to commemorate their impromptu, on-the-lam adventure. POKER FACE — 'The End of the Road' Season 2 Episode 12 — Pictured: Patti Harrison as Alex — (Photo by: Ralph Bavaro/PEACOCK) There's the Girl Charlie spies one fella who looks mighty suspicious. He has a bandage around his hand. Charlie recalls the Iguana/Fake Todd (Justin Theroux) sporting a nasty gash on his palm. Perhaps this is the Iguana in disguise. Charlie and Alex barrel out of the diner. The man spots them, shouting, 'There's the girl!' Outside, Alex informs a handful of men in the parking lot that Bandaged-Hand Man (who could be the Iguana) is after them. The men proceed to beat the snot out of Bandaged-Hand Man as Charlie and Alex flee. RELATED: Russian Doll Season 2 Thoughtfully Explores Motherhood and Trauma Elsewhere, Luca meets with reps of the FBI, CIA and NSA, including SAC Darville (Lili Taylor). He tries to persuade them of the Iguana's role in all this and Charlie's importance. Dude goes to bat for Charlie. They remain unconvinced, though, and they refuse to disclose Beatrix's location. In fact, each agency only has one part of the password, as it were, so none of them truly know where she is. Later, Charlie and Alex arrive at Beatrix's safe house. Charlie decides to meet with her first to soften her up before introducing Alex into the equation. After exiting her vehicle, Charlie gives Alex a stick of Big Red gum. If you recall, Alex told Charlie in episode 10 that she had a deadly cinnamon allergy. Hmm. The Real Iguana Is the Friend We Make Along the Way While walking around the house, Charlie stumbles upon something awful. Alex gasps in the car. Charlie rushes toward her Barracuda to discover Alex is missing. Uh-oh. RELATED: Geek Girl Authority Crush of the Week: Mabel Mora Charlie discovers a handful of slaughtered agents — muscle used to protect Beatrix — outside the house. Inside, she finds one agent in a pool of his own blood on the floor. A large pot of presumably spaghetti sauce is on the stove. An aerial shot shows Charlie roaming through the halls until she encounters Beatrix's (Rhea Perlman) corpse propped upright in her recliner in the living room, the TV blaring. RIP to a baking mafia queen. POKER FACE — 'The End of the Road' Season 2 Episode 12 — Pictured: Natasha Lyonne as Charlie Cale — (Photo by: Ralph Bavaro/PEACOCK) Then, Alex emerges from the corner, a gun pressed against her temple, making it appear that the Iguana has her. However, plot twist, Alex is the real Iguana. The new leather ensemble is a dead giveaway. Alex killed those FBI agents and Beatrix. Of course, Beatrix was the goal all along. Let's Get Expositional Alex casts Beatrix's body aside and forces Charlie to sit in the recliner. She points her weapon at Charlie. Now, it's time for an exposition dump, kids. How did the Iguana weasel her way into Charlie's life? We learn that Alex is a talented contract killer. She's taken out presidents, queens, kings, billionaires, etc. However, something was missing from her life. It all became rote. RELATED: Read our Russian Doll recaps At one point, Alex sliced her hand to feel, well, something . Then, her agent called her with a new assignment: Beatrix Hasp, a mafia boss. The agent mentions Charlie as a potential hurdle. She's close to Beatrix and has her innate lie detector. Alex embraces the challenge, though. No one has caught Alex in a lie since she was five. Pulling the wool over Charlie's eyes would keep her sharp. So, Alex orchestrated her first meeting with Charlie at the coffee shop in NYC. She learned to subdue the common triggers one associates with lying to trick Charlie. Of course, Charlie eventually caught on to Alex, hence why she gave the latter that stick of Big Red. But the cinnamon allergy was a lie. Compulsive Do-Gooder Anyway, Alex hired Fake Todd, the world's second greatest assassin, to kill Beatrix's son. She poses as the superior he chats with on the phone at the wedding, disguising her voice. Then, she situates herself in the boathouse so he makes her the patsy and frames her for Kirby's murder. And if you're wondering what happened to Fake Todd, Alex made quick work of him, disposing of him in the water. RELATED: The Best True Crime Shows on Netflix All of this transpired according to plan — even getting blamed for murdering Beatrix's son. As for Bandaged-Hand Man, Alex sliced his hand in the bathroom, hence why he shouted 'There's the girl!' and chased her and Charlie out of the diner. Charlie and Alex debate whether Charlie truly likes people. Alex accuses her of being a 'compulsive do-gooder.' Everyone lies to Charlie all the time, including Alex. Of course, Alex's lying inevitably caught up with her when it became too arduous to continue the ruse. I love this idea of Charlie's big nemesis having the ability to lie undetected. Well, for the most part. Alex pivots, claiming she now has to kill Charlie since her assignment is complete. Beatrix is dead. Wild Goose Chase However, Charlie finds another challenge for Alex to overcome. She turns the stove on with the pot of sauce. It overflows and triggers the smoke alarm. Luca, who's keeping an eye on all the safe houses in Indiana, gets an alert from said alarm. He and a team, along with local authorities, park outside the safe house. RELATED: Read our Only Murders in the Building recaps Next, Alex emerges with a gun to Charlie's head, holding her hostage. Charlie's always getting held hostage. She shoves Charlie into the Barracuda and zips away. Luca, Milligan and the others give chase. During the pursuit, Charlie wonders what Alex plans to do next. Alex claims it's the end of the road. There's nothing left for Alex to accomplish. Then, Milligan gets an order from the tippy-top. Like, the big boss. They are to shoot to kill. Stop that vehicle at all costs. The authorities lay down a chain to pop the Barracuda's tires. Agents train their weaponry on the approaching car. Alex speeds up. Charlie insists that Alex actually can't lie to her. 'You've never done it when I'm trying to catch you,' she says. Interesting. Thelma and Louise Alex swerves down a side road, catching the authorities off guard. They pursue her, but, of course, most of them pop the tires on their vehicles because of the chain on the road. Luca and Milligan realize there's a cliff not far ahead. Alex means to drive her and Charlie off it, Thelma & Louise -style. RELATED: Top 11 Peter Bogdanovich Films Alex plays another game of Two Truths and a Lie as she did in episode 10. If Charlie wins, Alex will let her live, and she'll have a Sherlock to her Moriarty. A bona fide rival. A legitimate challenge. However, if Alex wins… Then, Alex begins the game. She claims she had a dog named Puddles as a child. Next, she asserts she's double-jointed. Finally, she plans to drive the car off the cliff regardless of who wins. Charlie states they're all true. Alex tries to slam on the brakes, but unfortunately, the Barracuda is on her last legs. She brakes malfunction. Unable to stop, the vehicle flies off the 500-foot cliff. POKER FACE — 'The End of the Road' Season 2 Episode 12 — Pictured: (l-r) Natasha Lyonne as Charlie Cale, Simon Helberg as Luca — (Photo by: Ralph Bavaro/PEACOCK) To Be Continued But that's not the end of this story. The car freezes mid-air, and the text 'To Be Continued' materializes on the screen. Thankfully, we're not concluding the season on this very literal cliffhanger. After the camera lingers on the spinning wheels and details of the Barracuda, we rewind time. Before the car careens off that cliff, Charlie jumps out. RELATED: Read our Poker Face recaps Charlie rolls over the side of the cliff but grabs a few tree roots before she falls with the Barracuda. With Alex still inside, the car explodes in a fiery blaze upon hitting the ground. Luca, whose vehicle was hot on the Barracuda's heels, quickly helps Charlie to her feet. Luca reveals that, with Alex out of the equation, Charlie is now wanted by the FBI. She broke a bevy of laws, from aiding and abetting a serial killer to leading that killer to someone in witness protection. Beatrix is also dead, so there's that. However, Luca gives Charlie a way out — a head start, really. He offers her his coat and apologizes, but the next time he sees her, he will have to arrest her. Charlie realizes she's officially on the run again as she tearfully bids farewell to Luca. What a heartbreaking scene, performed beautifully by Lyonne and Helberg. POKER FACE — 'The End of the Road' Season 2 Episode 12 — Pictured: Taylor Schilling as Agent Milligan — (Photo by: PEACOCK) On the Road Again Meanwhile, Milligan checks out the wreckage at the bottom of the cliff to find that Alex is gone. Just like that. Moriarty is on the loose. Elsewhere, Charlie hitchhikes on a snowy highway. She meets a homeless dog and takes him in. A truck driver stops for her, revealing he's heading to Wichita, Kansas. Charlie claims she's fine with that as she gets in the truck with her newfound pup buddy. Poker Face is now streaming on Peacock. KNIVES OUT 3 Reveals First Look of Benoit Blanc With Long Hair Contact: [email protected] What I do: I'm GGA's Managing Editor, a Senior Contributor, and Press Coordinator. I manage, contribute, and coordinate. Sometimes all at once. 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