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Telegraph
18-04-2025
- Politics
- Telegraph
‘We are called fascists because we believe lesbian events have a right to be women-only'
'There used to be loads of venues in London for lesbians,' says Lyndsay, a 30-year-old investment banker. Note that the bank she works for has been shortlisted for one of the growing number of equality and diversity awards – yet she, as a lesbian, doesn't feel safe. 'Unless lesbians go out of our way to say we believe that trans women are literal women,' Lyndsay says, 'the assumption is that we are transphobic bigots, and our reputations are trashed.' 'Please just use my first name,' she says, 'because if I am identified as being in any way gender critical, trans activists will never leave me alone.' We meet at Sapphic Central, a spacious pub in central Balham, south-west London, which hosts a lesbian night once a month. The popular evening is always packed, with a DJ in the basement. Rickety stairs lead up to an outdoor space, lined with empty beer barrels, where half of the women congregate to smoke and chat. In 2022, I founded The Lesbian Project (co-directed by former philosophy professor Kathleen Stock), to focus on the needs of same-sex attracted females as distinct from gay men and gender identity. We, alongside other interested parties, are currently awaiting a decision from the Supreme Court as to whether it is legal for lesbians to assemble in groups of more than 25 at a public venue. Over the past decade and more, extreme trans activism has influenced our major institutions, from charities to universities – even our legal system. And as a result of the mantra 'trans women are women', alongside 'no debate', lesbian dating has been driven underground. But on Wednesday, judges sitting in the Supreme Court ruled that a man claiming to be a woman, even if he has a Gender Recognition Certificate, cannot claim to be legally a lesbian. This means that trans women (biological men) cannot demand entry to a lesbian-only event or venue. And if a space or service is designated as women-only, such as a lesbian bar, a person who was born male but identifies as a woman does not have a right to use that space. The ruling is a huge relief, as although venues might still choose not to host lesbian-only events, they will be able to cite this ruling to trans activists who put pressure on them to cancel. The Lesbian Project officially intervened in the case, brought by For Women Scotland. In our submission, we argued that men being able to identify as women, and therefore as lesbians, created a 'chilling effect', because it prevents us from having events free from men. Back in the 1980s and 1990s, the biggest threat posed to lesbians gathering at a publicised social event was that of thuggish, straight men, boozed up on cheap lager and angry that some women rejected their charms. But today, the danger is from social justice warriors, intoxicated on rigorousness, and an insistence that men claiming to be women can also be lesbians and should not be excluded. 'Every single tactic we use to meet in person, trans activists have done their best to spoil it,' says Lucy, (who does not wish to use her second name). Lucy, 44, a former firefighter who attended the Grenfell disaster, has now retrained as a family law barrister. 'They purposely stand in our way. And in recent years, it has got worse.' In 2020, Lucy was thrown off Hinge, the popular dating app, for stating that she was only interested in meeting biological women. Hinge disagreed – within 24 hours, she was permanently suspended, saying that she was banned for 'breaching their guidelines'. In response, Lucy took the story to the media. When I contacted Hinge for a right of reply, they said: 'We understand that dating is personal. Users are encouraged to show up as their most authentic selves, and are welcome to share their beliefs, values, and preferences on Hinge. What we do not tolerate is hate speech or harassment. 'This includes making false reports against any user for reasons around their sexuality, relationship preferences, and (actual or perceived) gender identity.' A lack of lesbian-only spaces There is one dating app specifically for lesbians: it's called Her, and Lucy had already given it a try. But she encountered a new problem. 'Every other profile is a man claiming to be a woman, and presenting themselves as ultra sexualised.' It was on Tinder that Lucy eventually met her girlfriend, but even there 'you are getting a ton of profiles that are meant to be female-seeking-female where it is just men pretending to be females'. She feels that there needs to be a major step change in the way these apps are run. 'The apps need to be policed so that men are identified early on, when they attempt to join. There is good facial recognition software being used in other countries.' Lucy recalls the early days, in the late Nineties, when she first came to London. 'It was magical. On Lewisham High Road, where I lived, there were three lesbian bars.' Twenty years ago there were dozens of lesbian-only bars across London, and several in towns and cities elsewhere in Britain. Today, aside from the odd pop-up evening, there are virtually none that are exclusively for lesbians. For seven years Jenny Watson, 33, a former town planner, ran twice monthly women-only speed-dating events at the College Arms in Bloomsbury, central London, often attracting more than a hundred women. But in an abrupt turn of events, in July 2023, a new general manager John Mason was appointed, who had a very different view of what should constitute a night out for lesbians. As Mason, the incoming general manager of the College Arms wrote in the 'London against transphobia' WhatsApp group, set up to oppose the women-only gig, 'I want their bookings cancelled'. He continued with: 'F---ing f---ers if they are using my new pub they are f---ing gone terfy a--holes.' After identifying himself as 'non-binary' and stating that he has a 16-year-old 'trans child', he continued: 'In a worst case scenario where I'm told I have to honour those bookings, I'll be in the market for a bunch of trans flags to redecorate the basement with… Just to reiterate and when I run any dating s--t... for lesbians, it'll be defined as anyone who identifies as a lesbian... Trans or cis.' Directly before posting in this group, he said to Watson, 'I'm not making part of my venue exclusive where certain people can't attend'. When she asked him whether, in principle, he would agree to the venue hosting a female lesbian-only event, he responded: 'Not if it's during open trade.' No notice was given to Watson, and she was forced to cancel the next advertised evening. She contacted a lawyer from solicitor firm Doyle Clayton who sent a formal legal letter on her behalf to the venue, arguing that what they had done was discrimination under the Equality Act. The company that owned the venue at the time, Stonegate, reversed the cancellation on paper – but the venue had become 'toxic' said Watson, and she was too scared to continue the event, knowing it was under the radar of trans activists. 'These events were community lifelines,' says Watson. 'It wasn't just dating – it was safety, connection, and joy. No one gave lesbians space like that, so I built it. Now I'm building it again – but this time, no one gets to pull the plug.' Austin Whelan, the CEO of Whelan Pubs told me by email that, 'We would like to clarify that we took over the business in August 2024 and have no involvement with any events or matters from previous years. As a result, we are unable to provide a statement regarding past occurrences'. These activist groups are mainly nascent and face this same struggle to find venues. One group, Queer Nerds for Anti-Fascism, talked about infiltrating Watson's events, presenting this as a perfectly legitimate strand of anti-fascist activism. 'They say we are fascists because we believe lesbian events have a right to be women-only,' says Watson. Since then she has been hard at work on her latest project, L Community, a unique online platform that acts as a meeting place for lesbians, both virtually and in person. L Community events are word-of-mouth only, and kept off social media. 'It's the only way, because they [trans activists] just turn up.' She realised that relying on the venues formerly used wasn't going to work, because trans activists would always try to close them down. Watson is very clear about one thing: 'I want the cornerstone to be physical spaces and women interacting in person, not just online.' Kelly Frost, an artist, aged 49, is another lesbian who has learnt from bitter experience that running a women-only night at a so-called LGBTQ+ venue is unlikely to end well. Heated campaigns against such 'transphobic' and 'trans-exclusionary' practices are quickly initiated, and venue owners, managers and even bar staff, inundated with threats and complaints – and fearful of losing their livelihoods, tend to cave in to the pressure. This is what happened to Frost, who had been successfully running regular 'Shabby She' events at the Bridge House in Penge for eight years. In February 2023 she announced that Shabby She would be strictly for 'biological women' only. Frost's decision was because the presence of trans-identified men had been intrusive, and had been causing women to self-exclude. These events offer much-needed relief to lesbians. 'Women come to us and say, 'oh my God, it's so great to find a women-only space',' says Frost. But very soon after announcing that the group (which had previously tolerated the presence of the occasional trans woman) would henceforth be for women only, she was informed by Scott, the publican, that complaints were coming in. 'The complaints made to the pub were that we were 'transphobic' 'exclusionary' and 'making trans women unsafe', says Frost. At first, the staff told Frost that she needn't worry because they were such long-standing, valued customers. But 24 hours after the first complaint, they were thrown out – on the basis that their event was 'too risky'. 'We had a strong feeling that we would lose the venue and so, whilst we were gutted and worried if and how we could bounce back, at the same time, there was relief. The lie that men were welcome at Shabby She was over,' says Frost. Frost has had to find an alternative venue and start over, though 'we've never got numbers anywhere near what we had'. She is reluctant to make public the name of the venue, in case it is similarly targeted. This time Frost decided to 'go underground', to not advertise except by word-of-mouth, and book the space as if it was a personal get-together. A staff member from Bridge House, who refused to give his name, told me how management made the decision to cancel the arrangement with Frost and cited a notice on social media she had posted, announcing the strict women-only policy. 'The fact it was sent around to all the people who were in the group and it made it quite clear in it that she wasn't interested in having trans ladies in the group,' he said. 'We are an all-inclusive business, and everyone is welcome. Because, sorry, no offence, but we're paying the rent, we're paying the wages.' 'Lesbians are nothing if not brave' LGB Alliance (LGBA) is a charity providing support, advice, information and social events to people who are same-sex attracted. It currently has 36 LGBA Friends' Groups, with most (not all) very much lesbian-dominated, and the vast majority lesbian-led – possibly because gay men have not lost their spaces in the same way. LGBA has (unjustly) been described as 'anti-trans' by PinkNews, and a 'hate group' by Guardian hard-Left columnist Owen Jones, and the lawyer Jolyon Maugham. La Camionera on Broadway Market in Hackney, east London, is a very publicly 'trans-inclusive' bar; its name means 'female truck driver' or 'butch lesbian' in Spanish. It has a different feel than a women-only space exclusively for lesbians as it has to cope with men sporting earrings, lipstick and a penis. At least here, there is an openness – and perhaps it doesn't feel that different from the old days, when we could bring gay men as guests, and often a drag queen or two would show up. Alex, the co-owner of La Camionera is transgender, and uses male pronouns. He tells me, when I ask how he feels about the fact that some lesbians are upset at losing women-only space: 'We've said, 'anyone can come', but it's more than 99 per cent of the time just women in there. When we first opened, we got a lot of people commenting on us being, are you trans friendly? Are you bisexual friendly? I didn't really feel the need to confirm all that.' 'By calling the bar a lesbian bar, everyone's 'oh yeah, being a lesbian is cool'. And the default should be that we don't have to extrapolate massively on these terms.' 'In some ways we have gone backwards,' admits Lucy. 'But we are not giving up. We will keep opening and running lesbian events, whatever trans activists throw at us, and however hard they try to shut them down. Lesbians are nothing if not brave.'
Telegraph
17-04-2025
- Politics
- Telegraph
I hope I never have to utter the words ‘gender identity' ever again
The Supreme Court decision, that a woman is a biological female, has been a long time coming. I was in court to hear the arguments from the Scottish Ministers so skilfully challenged and countered by the formidable feminist group, For Women Scotland. The KC representing the Scottish government was most certainly on the back foot. There were several interveners, including Sex Matters, which was set up by Maya Forstater and others following her own employment tribunal victory. She successfully argued that 'gender critical beliefs' are perfectly rational and people holding them should not be discriminated against. Other interveners at the Supreme Court included LGB Alliance, which was set up by same-sex attracted women and men to fill the gap left by Stonewall after it became a trans activist group that began throwing lesbians and gay men under the bus. Scottish Lesbians, together with The Lesbian Project (an organisation set up by myself and Kathleen Stock two years ago) also intervened in order to point out the ludicrousness of men being legally able (simply by dint of possessing a Gender Recognition Certificate) to identify as lesbians for the purposes of protected space and characteristics. As the lesbian interveners argued in our submissions: 'Lesbians are not attracted to certificates, but to other women'. I knew we were going to win. I was so confident of this that last week I announced in Edinburgh, at the launch of my latest book Lesbians: Where Are We Now?, that I was willing to bet one of my limbs on it. Thankfully, I still have all four, and I'm very grateful to the court. But I'm also extremely angry. Back in 2004, there I was, campaigning to end male violence against women and girls, as I have been doing all my adult life. It was in the very year that the Gender Recognition Act came into force that I first wrote about the madness of the idea that men can become women simply by identifying as such. I published this piece without knowing that doing so would be a life and career changing moment for me. And from that point on, I was hounded by transactivists, called a bigot, a Nazi, and no-platformed from events. This was why we set up The Lesbian Project. We knew that because our sexual orientation is the only one that specifically excludes men, we lesbians are particularly targeted and thus in need of advocacy, research and spaces of our own, away from gay men. When we set up the project, we argued that we wanted an amicable divorce from our gay brothers – but would come together on a basis of need, as and when necessary. They understood, and there's now a great camaraderie between us. But men who identify as women have felt it necessary to bully their way into our changing rooms, sports, prison wings, and domestic violence and rape crisis centres. It is now time to stop. We have had enough. The women have revolted, and the end of a destructive era is now in sight. I personally hope to never have to utter the words 'gender identity' again, and to go back to dedicating 100 per cent of my campaigning time to fighting the male violence that is still so prevalent today.
