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Another Round, No Results: India–US Carrier Talks Remain Stuck in Symbolism
Another Round, No Results: India–US Carrier Talks Remain Stuck in Symbolism

The Wire

time24-05-2025

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  • The Wire

Another Round, No Results: India–US Carrier Talks Remain Stuck in Symbolism

Menu हिंदी తెలుగు اردو Home Politics Economy World Security Law Science Society Culture Editor's Pick Opinion Support independent journalism. Donate Now Security Another Round, No Results: India–US Carrier Talks Remain Stuck in Symbolism Rahul Bedi 19 minutes ago Was it anything more than a gesture – an illusion of continuity – made with the full knowledge that nothing substantive would emerge? The eighth Joint Working Group on Aircraft Carrier Technology Cooperation (JWGACTC) between the Indian and US navies held from May 13–16. Photo: Press Information Bureau Real journalism holds power accountable Since 2015, The Wire has done just that. But we can continue only with your support. Contribute now Chandigarh: The only 'significant milestone' the Ministry of Defence (MoD) could cite from the recent eighth Joint Working Group on Aircraft Carrier Technology Cooperation (JWGACTC) between the Indian and US navies is simply that it happened at all. The Press Information Bureau (PIB) noted that the three-day meeting – held from May 13-16 and co-chaired by the Indian Navy's Rear Admiral Vishal Bishnoi and the US Navy's Rear Admiral Casey Moton – took place under the aegis of the long-dormant Defence Technology and Trade Initiative (DTTI), launched in 2012. As with its seven predecessors, the PIB highlighted 'valuable information' exchange and a joint statement, yet provided no concrete outcomes – underscoring the DTTI's legacy of lofty rhetoric and minimal delivery. Though not formally shuttered, the DTTI has remained effectively inactive for over a decade. Military officials and analysts widely regard it as a symbolic relic – functioning more as a placeholder for JWGACTC meetings than a credible mechanism for defence cooperation. 'Upmarket talking shop for avid navalists' The JWGACTC itself has long been dismissed by Indian Navy insiders as an 'upmarket talking shop for avid navalists,' largely due to the MoD's ongoing reluctance to approve a second indigenous aircraft carrier (IAC-2) following the commissioning of INS Vikrant in 2022. Discussions have repeatedly centred on Cochin Shipyard Limited (CSL) constructing a 65,000-tonne, conventionally powered carrier – tentatively called INS Vishal – with a US-made Electromagnetic Aircraft Launch System (EMALS) from General Atomics, supporting CATOBAR (Catapult Assisted Take-Off But Arrested Recovery) operations. However, defence industry sources confirm that Vishal remains far from sanctioned. Instead, the MoD is reportedly considering a more modest 'interim' step: commissioning a second Vikrant-class 40,000-tonne carrier. This would both preserve CSL's shipbuilding capacity and advance the Indian Navy's long-standing ambition of operating three carriers – one for each seaboard, with one in reserve. The DTTI, initially unveiled by then US Deputy Defence Secretary Ashton Carter in 2012, aimed to fast-track defence collaboration by bypassing bureaucratic roadblocks. India also signed four foundational defence agreements intended to deepen military cooperation and interoperability. The initiative began with four 'pathfinder' projects – including joint development of Mobile Electric Hybrid Power Systems (MEHPS) and chemical-biological protective clothing – but these, along with two later additions (the Raven UAV and ISR modules for the C-130J-30), languished due to tepid domestic interest and were eventually shelved. Subsequent attempts to revive the DTTI, including the addition of digital helmet-mounted displays, tactical biological detection systems, and proposals for joint development of ground combat vehicles and helicopters, similarly faltered. These clashed with indigenous programmes and met the same quiet demise. Also Read: Rafale-M Imports Will Spare Navy From Sailing World-Class Carrier Without World-Class Aircraft Even as India was designated a 'Major Defence Partner' by the US and the US Senate pushed for deeper defence cooperation via legislation, the DTTI remained mired in bureaucratic inertia. At one point, it included seven working groups across a range of technology domains, but these too faded without delivering results. Sources attribute the DTTI's collapse to persistent shortcomings: indecision on the Indian side, and a paternalistic US approach offering low-grade technology. A senior Indian military officer involved in DTTI negotiations remarked that the initiative's failure starkly contrasted the otherwise growing India–US strategic partnership. 'There was a major gap between ambition and delivery,' he said. 'Eventually, it all collapsed.' By January 2023, the DTTI was effectively replaced by the Initiative on Critical and Emerging Technologies (ICET), launched in Washington under the guidance of both countries' National Security Advisers. ICET focuses on six broad areas: defence, space, next-gen telecom (including 6G), artificial intelligence, semiconductors, and advanced biotechnology. In a Pentagon briefing in early 2024, Brigadier General Patrick Ryder described ICET as a shift from defence sales to joint innovation, calling it 'modular, scalable, and industry-driven.' ICET faces significant structural challenges But despite its ambitious design, ICET too faces significant structural challenges. Industry insiders note that while ICET aims to ease US regulatory barriers to advanced tech transfers, most American defence firms – which hold the intellectual property – operate independently of government mandates and are reluctant to share costly proprietary technologies. These firms remain bound by stringent export controls and are accountable primarily to shareholders, not US strategic policy – posing a fundamental obstacle to meaningful joint production or technology transfer. Current ICET deliverables include plans to manufacture General Electric's F-414 engines in India for the Tejas Mk-II and locally assemble 31 MQ-9 Reaper drones. But even here, progress has been slow. Technology transfer for the drones from General Atomics Aeronautical Systems is reportedly around 10-15% and includes establishing a maintenance, repair and overhaul (MRO) facility for the UAVs in India. Ultimately, analysts say commercial realities and bureaucratic drag continue to undermine both DTTI and ICET. As one expert put it: the DTTI collapsed under the weight of mismatched expectations; ICET risks a similar fate unless these foundational issues are addressed. This begs the question: What was the purpose of convening the eighth JWGACTC under the DTTI banner? Was it anything more than a gesture – an illusion of continuity – made with the full knowledge that nothing substantive would emerge? 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Aircraft carrier tech: Plans for future cooperation discussed in key India-US defence meet
Aircraft carrier tech: Plans for future cooperation discussed in key India-US defence meet

Daily Tribune

time23-05-2025

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  • Daily Tribune

Aircraft carrier tech: Plans for future cooperation discussed in key India-US defence meet

TDT | agencies Plans for future India-US cooperation in aircraft carrier technology were discussed during a recent joint working group meeting between the two sides, officials said on Tuesday. The eighth meeting of the India-US Joint Working Group on Aircraft Carrier Technology Co-operation (JWGACTC), constituted under the auspices of the India-US Defence Technology and Trade Initiative (DTTI), was organised in India from May 13-16. "A six-member US delegation headed by RAdm (Rear Admiral) Casey Moton, Programme Executive Officer, Aircraft Carriers, visited various defence establishments in Delhi and Goa," a Navy spokesperson said. The opening session of the Joint Working Group meeting was held on May 13 in New Delhi, which was co-chaired by Rear Admiral Vishal Bishnoi, the Assistant Controller Carrier Projects. During the meeting, Rear Admiral Moton highlighted the importance of the Joint Working Group and the progress it has made over the last 10 years, he said. Both sides appreciated the "remarkable work" undertaken by the group towards valuable information exchange on aircraft carriers. "Plans for future cooperation under various aspects of aircraft carrier technology were discussed and a joint statement was also released," the spokesperson said. In Goa, professional interactions were undertaken with the Indian Navy's aviation specialists on aircraft carrier operations and technical aspects. The meeting marked yet another "significant milestone" in the ongoing cooperation between the two countries in the field of aircraft carrier technology, he said.

8th meeting of India-US Joint Working Group on Aircraft Carrier Technology Co-operation concludes
8th meeting of India-US Joint Working Group on Aircraft Carrier Technology Co-operation concludes

India Gazette

time20-05-2025

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  • India Gazette

8th meeting of India-US Joint Working Group on Aircraft Carrier Technology Co-operation concludes

ANI 20 May 2025, 22:54 GMT+10 New Delhi [India], May 20 (ANI): The 8th meeting of the India-US Joint Working Group on Aircraft Carrier Technology Co-operation (JWGACTC), constituted under the auspices of the India-US Defence Technology and Trade Initiative (DTTI), was held in India from May 13 to 16, the Ministry of Defence said in a release on Tuesday. As per the release, a six-member US delegation headed by RAdm Casey Moton, Programme Executive Officer (PEO), Aircraft Carriers visited various defence establishments in Delhi and Goa. The opening session of the Joint Working Group Meeting, which was co-chaired by RAdm Vishal Bishnoi, Assistant Controller Carrier Projects (ACCP), was held on May 13 in New Delhi. During the meeting, the RAdm Casey Moton highlighted the importance of the Joint Working Group and the progress it has made over the last 10 years. Both sides appreciated the remarkable work undertaken by the Joint Working Group to exchange valuable information on Aircraft Carriers. Plans for future cooperation in various aspects of Aircraft Carrier Technology were discussed, and a Joint Statement was also released. At Goa, professional interactions were undertaken with the Indian Navy's Aviation Specialists on Aircraft Carrier operations and technical aspects. The meeting marked yet another significant milestone in the ongoing co-operation between the two countries in the field of Aircraft Carrier Technology. (ANI)

India-US joint working group on aircraft carrier technology cooperation meet in Delhi, Goa
India-US joint working group on aircraft carrier technology cooperation meet in Delhi, Goa

New Indian Express

time20-05-2025

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  • New Indian Express

India-US joint working group on aircraft carrier technology cooperation meet in Delhi, Goa

NEW DELHI: The India-US Joint Working Group on Aircraft Carrier Technology Cooperation (JWGACTC), constituted under the auspices of the India - US Defence Technology and Trade Initiative (DTTI), was organised in India. The Indian Navy on Tuesday said, "A six-member US delegation headed by Rear Admiral (RAdm) Casey Moton, Programme Executive Officer (PEO), Aircraft Carriers visited various defence establishments in Delhi and Goa." It was the 8th meeting in the series and was held from 13 to 16 May 2025. The opening session of the Joint Working Group Meeting was held on 13 May at New Delhi, which was co-chaired by RAdm Vishal Bishnoi, Assistant Controller Carrier Projects (ACCP). "During the meeting, the RAdm Casey Moton highlighted the importance of the Joint Working Group and the progress it has made over the last 10 years. Both sides appreciated the remarkable work undertaken by the Joint Working Group towards valuable information exchange on Aircraft Carriers. Plans for future cooperation under various aspects of Aircraft Carrier Technology were discussed and a Joint Statement was also released," the navy said. At Goa, professional interactions were undertaken with Indian Navy's Aviation Specialists on Aircraft Carrier operations and technical aspects.

India, U.S. discuss carrier cooperation
India, U.S. discuss carrier cooperation

The Hindu

time20-05-2025

  • Business
  • The Hindu

India, U.S. discuss carrier cooperation

Continuing the dialogue on aircraft carrier cooperation, India and the U.S. discussed plans for future co-operation under various aspects of Aircraft Carrier Technology at the 8th round of the India-U.S. Joint Working Group on Aircraft Carrier Technology Cooperation (JWGACTC), constituted under the Defence Technology and Trade Initiative (DTTI), the Navy said in Tuesday. A six-member U.S. delegation headed by Rear Adm. Casey Moton, Programme Executive Officer (PEO), Aircraft Carriers, was in Delhi for the dialogue held from May 13 to 16; they also visited various defence establishments in Delhi and Goa. From India, the dialogue was co-chaired by Rear Adm. Vishal Bishnoi, Assistant Controller Carrier Projects. The working group held its first meeting in 2015 and the last edition was held in the U.S. in April 2024. Also read | Budgetary allocations and the recurring lament of the Indian Navy 'Both sides appreciated the remarkable work undertaken by the Joint Working Group towards valuable information exchange on Aircraft Carriers. Plans for future co-operation under various aspects of Aircraft Carrier Technology were discussed and a Joint Statement was also released,' the Navy said. At Goa, professional interactions were undertaken with the Indian Navy's aviation specialists on carrier operations and technical aspects, it added. The Indian Navy currently operates two carriers — INS Vikramaditya, acquired from Russia, and the indigenously designed and manufactured INS Vikrant — both of which operate the Mig-29K fighter jets. Unlike the bulk of the U.S. nuclear-powered super carriers displacing 100,000 tonnes, the Indian carriers are medium-sized with a displacement of over 40,000 tonnes, conventionally powered and use a ski-jump to launch aircraft. The ambitious DTTI initiative between India and the U.S. was announced a decade ago with two joint working groups and four path funder projects for co-development and co-production, though they made no progress.

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