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Daily Mail
15-05-2025
- Entertainment
- Daily Mail
Jesinta Franklin slams podcaster for his 'dangerous' comments about women and why they should be doing 'hot girl walks': 'Women's lives and identities are so much more than that'
Jesinta Franklin has slammed hosts Chris Griffin and Wade Papenfus for shocking comments they made about women on The Pocket Podcast. Griffin and Papenfus shared a clip from their podcast saying they don't want their partners to 'complain' about working if they don't have to work. They went on to suggest in the video, shared two weeks ago, that women should bring 'calm, harmony, peace and love' to men at the end of a 'busy' day. This clip was discussed by KICPOD co-founder Laura Henshaw on Wednesday, leading to massive backlash against Griffin and Papenfus from women in media. 'This really misses the mark, boys,' AFL WAG and former Miss Universe Australia titleholder Franklin wrote beneath the video. 'And I say boys because the sentiment here reflects a lack of maturity, understanding and life experience.' 'A woman's role in life isn't to make yours easier or more comfortable but that's the message that's coming through loud and clear,' she continued. Franklin, 33, went on to say she hoped Griffin and Papenfus, who are believed to be in their early 20s, would 'take on board' the 'strong responses' from women. 'There's a lesson here if you're open to it,' she said. 'We're not here to greet you at the door every night in an apron and a pretty dress, batting our lashes and talking about a day spent strolling and collecting postcards.' Jesinta finished by saying 'women's lives and identities are so much more than that', with her fellow media stars jumping in to echo the sentiment. 'The older you get the more you will realise how little you really know in your 20s,' KICPOD co-host Steph Claire Smith told Griffin on his Instagram page. 'Don't get me wrong, naivety can serve its purpose and get you places quickly as you second guess yourself less. I was much the same in my early 20s. 'But not being open to learning and understanding, not just other peoples perspectives but just straight facts is not something to be proud of.' Griffin (left) and Papenfus (right) shared a clip from their podcast saying they don't want their partners to 'complain' about working if they don't have to work She continued: 'You have a huge responsibility with the platform you have, you need to think about others when you have the reach you do, because you have impact.' Her co-star Henshaw, 32, slammed Griffin and Papenfus on her podcast, saying women don't exist 'to serve their partners'. She added the idea women were meant to 'live our days so we can be in a "good mood" for them' is misogynistic. Henshaw went on to tell the video contained a 'dangerous message'. 'It is just such a dangerous message, and sends such a terrifying message to the younger generation who are influenced by this type of content,' she said. 'Social media can be a really great place but there is also a dark side where content like this that is misogynistic and implies that women should "serve" men is prevalent and running rife within the algorithm of young men and teenage boys.' She added single mothers and women who have experienced financial abuse have reached out to her to express concerns over the video. They 'wished they had been empowered with the tools to understand what their choices meant and to have understood the types of behaviours to look out for'. 'This is why it is so important we continue the conversation and call out this type of content,' she said. Life Uncut host Laura Byrne also commented beneath the video, saying: 'People who don't even attempt to receive feedback from the works around them are stuck in an echo chamber of their own bias. 'Stay in your lane for sure, but that lane should not permeate over into telling women how to be/show up in their relationships. 'You're 22, you've barely had any real relationships, you don't have kids, and you haven't navigate 90% of what it means to be in a relationship.' Several other women in the entertainment industry also spoke out against The Pocket Podcast. 'I've just watched again and I can't believe how belittling this is. Well actually, I can believe it,' Married At First Sight star Lauren Dunn wrote. 'Have you ever had a conversation with a woman?' feminist author Clementine Ford said. Youth worker and media personality Brooke Blurton simply commented with eye roll emojis. Griffin has since doubled down on his comments and called for Henshaw to appear on his podcast as a guest so they could discuss the topic further Actress and comedian Felicity Ward joked: 'Guys have you heard of the 1950s? You're gonna love it.' 'You will hopefully look back on this when you're grown ups and be mega embarrassed,' added radio star Ash London. Griffin has since doubled down on his comments and called for Henshaw to appear on his podcast as a guest so they could discuss the topic further. 'I believe that if money isn't a stressor, then work should be about purpose and joy, not obligation or survival,' Griffin wrote to her. 'This isn't about control. It's about choice. If she wants to chase a career, I'll back her 100%. If she wants to stay home, I'll support that too.' He went on to write: 'i also don't think it's fair to label traditional masculine values as 'toxic'. Wanting to provide, protect, and lead with strength doesn't make a man toxic. 'It makes him grounded in his role. What is toxic is weakness masked as masculinity—insecurity, control, emotional suppression. That's not what I stand for.' Griffin went on to slam 'hyper-independent' woman and 'toxic femininity', saying it's 'no empowering' and 'it's doing more damage than good'. 'I respect your view, I just don't share it. And I know not everyone will agree with mine, but that's okay. I'm not here to please everyone,' he finished. Henshaw shared the response to her Instagram Stories, saying she was disappointed by his comment. Griffin's comments in the original podcast clipped stunned viewers when he expressed outdated beliefs about a woman's role in a relationship. 'I don't want my partner working unless she wants to work,' he said, before going on to slam women who 'come home and complain' about their day at work. 'If we've got four hours to spend in the afternoon and I ask, "How was your day today, babe?" I want your eyes to light up in excitement about whatever the f*** it was.' Co-host Papenfus agreed, saying: 'And that's energy too, it's so good.' 'It's the calm, it's the harmony, it's the peace and love that a man who's got a busy life, that's chasing his dreams, needs when he's trying to wind down,' Griffins added. 'This is why I heavily encourage hot girl walks. I would love my partner to go on a hot girl walk with her friends every day. 'She gets this feminine energy, they get to talk their s*** and they get to have a bit of excitement about their day. 'I don't think a girl needs to go through challenge, pain and hardship to be an amazing girl. I think she can fill her days with passion-filled things and still be amazing.'
News.com.au
14-05-2025
- Entertainment
- News.com.au
Laura Henshaw calls out podcast host for segment on women in the workforce
A health and wellness podcast host has been publicly called out over his 'misogynistic' take on women and what a woman's stance should be when it comes to working. Chris Griffin, who hosts The Pocket with Chris Griffin – an educational podcast which platforms 'conversations about life' – said he doesn't want his partner to work 'if she doesn't want to'. 'If you feel the need to go and work to make money and then you come home and you're complaining about your day — when we don't need you to make money because you're sorted,' he began. 'If we've got four hours to spend in the afternoon and I ask you 'how was your day today, babe' I want your eyes to light up in excitement about whatever the f*** it was.' His co-host, Wade Papenfus, agreed, saying it was all about the 'energy' the partner was bringing back into the home. Mr Griffin added that a man with a busy life needs 'calm, harmony, peace and love' when trying to wind down. 'This is why I heavily encourage hot girl walks. I would love my partner to go on a hot girl walk with her friends every day. She gets this feminine energy, they get to talk their sh*t and they get to have a bit of excitement about their day,' he said. 'I don't think a girl needs to go through challenge, pain and hardship to be an amazing girl. I think she can fill her days with passion-filled things and still be amazing.' A clip of the podcast was shared to social media two weeks ago, but it was Kic co-founder Laura Henshaw calling out Mr Griffin's assertions that led to the clip going viral. Henshaw, 32, shared a snippet of the clip and said women don't exist to 'serve their partners. To live our days so we can be in a 'good mood' for them'. She said women should feel empowered to be financially independent, establish a career and build up superannuation for retirement. The fitness and wellness influencer said there was no judgement for women who didn't want to work but they needed to be empowered with all the information to make that decision. She shared screenshots from followers who revealed they stopped working once they had children, and their partners encouraged them not to go back to work. But, once the relationship broke down they were now stuck on minimum wage. Others said their job was the only reason they could leave abusive relationships. 'It's honestly dangerous,' one said. Henshaw told the video struck such a chord with her because of the dangerous messaging. 'It is just such a dangerous message, and sends such a terrifying message to the younger generation who are influenced by this type of content,' she said. 'Social media can be a really great place but there is also a dark side where content like this that is misogynistic and implies that women should 'serve' men is prevalent and running rife within the algorithm of young men and teenage boys.' The media personality said since speaking out she's had a lot of commentary from single mothers or women who have experienced financial abuse and 'wished they had been empowered with the tools to understand what their choices meant and to have understood the types of behaviours to look out for'. 'This is why it is so important we continue the conversation and call out this type of content,' she said. Henshaw wasn't the only one who called out Mr Griffin. Tarang Chawla, whose sister Nikita was murdered by her partner when she was just 23 in 2015 and is an activist against men's violence, said: 'I work in this area you're talking about and it's something I know a bit about and care about deeply. I'd love to sit down on your podcast to talk about it. 'I think we'll agree on a lot and disagree on some things but your audience will probably get something valuable out of it.' Former reality star Tully Smyth said: 'Oh goodness. This ain't it my dude.' Content creator and chronic illness advocate Jordan Darian Lambropoulos said: 'Should've finished this one with 'Blessed be the fruit', boys.' Meanwhile another said, 'Wowweee. First, the video. Them boldly doubling down with zero self awareness. Very concerning stuff.' When reached out to Mr Griffin for comment regarding the backlash to his comments, he issued an invitation. 'Rather than going back and forth online, I'd love to invite Laura onto my podcast for an open and honest convo. If she's up for it, so am I,' he said. He also addressed Henshaw in the comment section of the podcast's video and said he 'understands' her point of view, but insisted the key phrase in his clip was 'unless she wants to'. 'This isn't about control. It's about choice. If she wants to chase a career, I'll back her 100%. If she wants to stay home, I'll support that too. That's what freedom in a relationship should look like,' he said. 'I also don't measure a woman's worth by income. I see her value in things far more significant than a dollar figure. 'You mentioned financial abuse, and I agree, it's real. But it comes from manipulation, not from who earns the money. A healthy relationship built on trust and mutual respect, should prevent this.' He said he doesn't think its fair to label traditional masculine values as 'toxic' and he simply wants to 'provide, protect and lead with strength'. The podcaster added that there were 'too many weak men out there' and that's how 'toxic femininity' — which he defined as hyper-independent women — was born. 'Men and women are equal, absolutely. But we are not the same. Pretending we are strips away our natural strengths and creates confusion instead of connection,' he said. 'I respect your view, I just don't share it. And I know not everyone will agree with mine, but that's okay. I'm not here to please everyone. I just stand by what I believe, with respect.' Henshaw called the response 'disappointing' and wanted the clip taken down.
