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Citadel CEO worried by rising cost of US default insurance
Citadel CEO worried by rising cost of US default insurance

Reuters

time4 days ago

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Citadel CEO worried by rising cost of US default insurance

NEW YORK, June 5 (Reuters) - Citadel's founder and CEO Ken Griffin said on Thursday it is "unfathomable" that a financial instrument to protect against an eventual U.S. default is being priced at levels close to some European countries. "I never thought in my life I would see the U.S. priced higher in risk cost than a number of countries like Spain, Germany or France," he said at the Forbes Iconoclast Summit. "You gotta be kidding me." Griffin said the credit default swap (CDS) market has some issues with liquidity which impact prices, but still he considered that conversations around how close the swaps are trading are "unfathomable." Spreads on U.S. five-year CDS - market-based gauges of the risk of a sovereign default – stood at 48 basis points on Thursday, compared to 50 bps for Italy, 32 bps for Spain and 35 bps for France, S&P Global Market Intelligence data showed. U.S. sovereign CDS spreads widened to their highest since the debt ceiling crisis of 2023 in recent weeks. The move in the spreads of U.S. credit default swaps comes amid concerns around the country's fiscal deficit and negotiations over a tax bill that is estimated to add more than $2 trillion to the U.S. debt. Griffin did not specifically comment on the bill, but criticized the U.S. fiscal deficit. "The United States' fiscal house is not in order. You cannot run deficits of six or 7% at full employment after years of growth. That's just fiscally irresponsible," he said.

Hedge-fund manager sees U.S. becoming Greece
Hedge-fund manager sees U.S. becoming Greece

Yahoo

time25-05-2025

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  • Yahoo

Hedge-fund manager sees U.S. becoming Greece

Maybe you forget Grexit, the nickname given to Greece's multi-year financial crisis in the mid-2010s. It had many people, investors and governments worried the small nation would be forced to withdraw from the European Union. It was a big deal at the time. Greece was a financial and economic mess because government spending was far greater tax revenue. It caused financial outlets to devote many, many column inches or many, many broadcast minutes debating what might happen if Greece was tossed from the European Union. 💵💰 💰💵 Solutions were found Greece afloat, and the country so far hasn't tossed from the EU, but its finances remain shaky. The StreetPro columnist Doug Kass hasn't forgotten Grexit. And he's worried the financial condition of the United States is deteriorating into something resembling prompted Kass' thinking came a day after Congress passed President Trump's "beautiful tax bill." The bill would extend Trump's 2017 tax cuts and add tax cuts but doing little to replace lost tax revenue. The event that Kass saw was that the prices of credit default swaps on U.S. government debt (which pay off in event of a default) were nearing the prices now being charged on credit default swaps on Greece's debt. Credit default swaps are basically insurance, and you pay what is basically a premium for the protection. If the debtor defaults on the debt, he pays off the investor. Kass, president of Seabreeze Partners Management, thinks investors appear blissfully unconcerned with implications of the tax bill. "It appears investors are dancing like 'Zorba the Greek,' while the U.S. spends gluttonously," he wrote. "Zorba the Greek" was Nikos Kazantzakis' 1940s novel and, later, a 1964 film about a Greek working man whose zest for life overshadows all else, often with tragic implications. What shocks Kass: "The bill's debt impact — with a 220% debt-to-GDP ratio by 2055 — reflects the Republican party's ideological shift to the Democratic party's liberal big spending of the past." The underlying assumption being that tax cuts will fuel economic growth and take care of the deficits. Maybe not. The major bond-rating agencies no longer see U.S. debt as AAA rated. Moody's Investors Service downgraded U.S. debt on May 16 to Aaa to did pay attention to the downgrade. It was part of the reason the S&P 500 fell 2.6% this past week. (President Trump also contributed to the decline with new tariff threats and criticism of Apple's () reluctance to move production of iPhones back to the United States. Apple fell 7.6% on the week.) More Economic Analysis: Fed inflation gauge sets up stagflation risks as tariff policies bite U.S. recession risk leaps as GDP shrinks Like it or not, the bond market rules all And the credit default swaps market sees U.S. debt facing more downgrades, maybe down to BBB+, not much above BB-. That's Standard & Poors' minimum rating for an investment-grade bond. To real solution to fixing the problem, Kass thinks, "is cutting expenses, and biting the bullet that way, but neither party seems willing to do that."Today's expanding debt crisis may be similar to 2007, Kass says, when the subprime mortgage crisis was starting to emerge. At the time, Chuck Prince, then CEO of banking giant Citigroup () , famously said. "As long as the music is playing, you've got to get up and dance." To Doug Kass, it sounds like Zorba the manager sees U.S. becoming Greece first appeared on TheStreet on May 25, 2025 Error in retrieving data Sign in to access your portfolio Error in retrieving data Error in retrieving data Error in retrieving data Error in retrieving data

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