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Blue Dart Express Ltd (BOM:526612) Q4 2025 Earnings Call Highlights: Navigating Growth Amidst ...
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Release Date: May 29, 2025 For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript. Blue Dart Express Ltd (BOM:526612) reported a revenue from operations of INR57,202 million and a profit after tax of INR2,446 million for the year ended March 31, 2025. The company was recognized for excellence in customer service, sustainability, compliance, and brand loyalty, and was awarded for its customer-centric approach and operational excellence. Significant investments made in the previous year have been well operationalized, contributing to positive growth in both revenue and volumes. The company has maintained a strong position in pricing, successfully implementing price increases with both large and small players. Blue Dart Express Ltd (BOM:526612) has achieved optimal utilization levels for its freighters, indicating efficient use of resources. Margins have decreased in the fourth quarter compared to the third quarter, attributed to the incremental costs of new aircraft and lower business days. The EBITDA margin has declined from 10.5% in the previous year's fourth quarter to 8.3% in the current quarter. The company's return on capital employed (ROCE) is at a decade low, excluding the COVID-19 period, due to investments in owned assets. There is a noted contraction in gross margins from 43.2% to 41.4% year-over-year, despite price increases. The volume growth has not fully translated into revenue growth, indicating challenges in price realization across the board. Warning! GuruFocus has detected 2 Warning Signs with BOM:532859. Q: Can you provide the volume data for this quarter? A: We had 9,191.94 million shipments for the quarter with a weight of 331,101 tons. - Interim CFO, Sagar Patel Q: Why have margins decreased this quarter compared to the third quarter? A: The third quarter typically sees higher volumes due to the festive season, which tapers off in the first quarter. Additionally, the operationalization of new aircraft has increased costs, impacting margins. - Interim CFO, Sagar Patel Q: What is the outlook for growth and EBITDA margins, and why were margins down to 8.3% from 10.5% last year? A: Investments made last year have increased costs, but as customers recognize improved transit times, pricing will develop, and margins are expected to improve. - Interim CFO, Sagar Patel Q: How much CapEx will be undertaken, and how will the new Guwahati hub contribute to growth? A: CapEx will focus on replacement, upgrading, and expanding capacities. The Guwahati hub will help utilize aircraft effectively, with significant volume improvements from the Northeast. - Interim CFO, Sagar Patel Q: Are the new freighters operating at optimal utilization, and is there room for growth? A: The freighters have reached optimal utilization levels, similar to the earlier fleet, with utilization between 85% to 90%. - Interim CFO, Sagar Patel For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript. This article first appeared on GuruFocus. Error in retrieving data Sign in to access your portfolio Error in retrieving data Error in retrieving data Error in retrieving data Error in retrieving data

Columbus McKinnon Corp (CMCO) Q4 2025 Earnings Call Highlights: Navigating Challenges with ...
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Net Sales: $963 million for fiscal 2025, down 4% year over year on a constant currency basis. Fourth Quarter Sales: $246.9 million, down 5% from the prior year on a constant currency basis. Backlog: $322.5 million, a 15% increase versus the prior year. Gross Profit: $79.8 million in the fourth quarter, decreased by $14.5 million year over year. Gross Margin: 32.3% on a GAAP basis; 35.2% on an adjusted basis. Adjusted Operating Income: $24.1 million in the fourth quarter. Adjusted Operating Margin: 9.8% in the fourth quarter. Adjusted EPS: $0.60 for the fourth quarter. Adjusted EBITDA: $36.1 million in the fourth quarter, with a margin of 14.6%. Free Cash Flow: $29.5 million in the fourth quarter. Debt Repayment: $60 million paid down in fiscal 2025, including $15 million in the fourth quarter. Net Leverage Ratio: 3.1 times on a financial covenant basis. Fiscal 2026 Guidance: Net sales growth flat to slightly up; adjusted EPS growth flat to slightly up. Warning! GuruFocus has detected 3 Warning Sign with CMCO. Release Date: May 28, 2025 For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript. Columbus McKinnon Corp (NASDAQ:CMCO) delivered record orders in fiscal '25, with a 4% increase versus the prior year on a constant currency basis. The company saw strong growth in project-related orders, particularly in precision conveyance, which was up 19% year over year. Backlog increased by 15% to $322.5 million, positioning the company well for fiscal '26. Operational execution improved, with a top-tier TRIR of 0.54 and a 10-point improvement in net promoter score in the EMEA region. The pending acquisition of Keto Crosby is expected to scale the business, expand customer capabilities, and accelerate the intelligent motion strategy. Net sales were down 4% year over year on a constant currency basis, reflecting lower volume due to short cycle order softness. Gross profit decreased by $14.5 million due to lower sales volume, mix, and factory closure costs. Tariffs are expected to be a headwind, with a $0.20 to $0.30 impact on adjusted EPS in the first half of fiscal 2026. The company faces macroeconomic uncertainty and volatility related to the evolving US policy landscape. Short cycle orders remain sensitive to channel dynamics, impacted by policy uncertainty and channel consolidation. Q: What is the tariff rate embedded for China and the EU, and how might the Keto Crosby acquisition impact tariff mitigation? A: David Wilson, President and CEO, explained that the tariff rates considered are 145% for China and 10% for the EU. The company is advancing integration planning for Keto Crosby, which could potentially help mitigate tariff impacts quicker or more effectively than currently guided. Q: How has the short cycle order trend been through April and early June, and what is expected for Keto Crosby? A: David Wilson noted that short cycle sales improved in the latter part of Q4, showing a flat year-over-year performance, which was a significant improvement from Q3. While he couldn't comment on Keto Crosby's results, similar activity levels are anticipated. Q: Can you elaborate on the tariff situation and the expected mitigation measures? A: David Wilson stated that the company expects a $40 million tariff headwind, with mitigation through surcharges, pricing, and supply chain management. The guidance assumes flat to slightly up revenue, with potential volume reductions due to price increases. Q: What is driving the strength in precision conveyance orders, and how are margins in this area? A: David Wilson highlighted robust demand in precision conveyance, with a 19% year-over-year order growth. This demand is driven by sectors like battery production, life sciences, and e-commerce, with contributions from Mantra Tech and Dorner businesses. Q: Why was the mix negative to margin despite strong precision conveyance orders? A: David Wilson explained that while orders were strong, sales were down, impacting margins due to lower volume and mix. The company expects improvements in fiscal '26 as volume ramps up, particularly in precision conveyance and North American linear motion businesses. For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript. This article first appeared on GuruFocus. Error in retrieving data Sign in to access your portfolio Error in retrieving data Error in retrieving data Error in retrieving data Error in retrieving data

Q1 2025 Frontline Plc Earnings Call
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Q1 2025 Frontline Plc Earnings Call

Lars Barstad; Chief Executive Officer of Frontline Management AS; Frontline Plc Inger Klemp; Chief Financial Officer of Frontline Management AS; Frontline Plc Sherif Elmaghrabi; Analyst; BTIG Jonathan Chappell; Analyst; Evercore ISI Omar Nokta; Analyst; Jefferies LLC Geoffrey Scott; Analyst; Scott Asset Management Operator Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Q1 2025 Frontline Plc earnings conference call. (Operator Instructions) Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Lars Barstad, CEO. Please go ahead. Lars Barstad Thank you very much dear all. Thank you for dialing into Frontline's quarterly earnings call. It's encouraging to see so many joining us today. Despite all the action around us, both in respect of equity market volatility, changing policies and global trade negotiations the tanker market has moved along in an orderly manner. To recap the first quarter of the year, the VLCC were volatile with three to four exciting rallies and a rising floor. Suezmax and Aframax had a strong finish to the first quarter, whilst LR2s struggled. We are in a situation where the inverse earnings relationship between asset classes seems to be gone and the VLCC is taking the lead. This may also be caused by the fact that incremental export growth is finally coming from compliant sources. So before I go and give the word to Inger, I'll run through our TCE numbers on slide 3 in the deck. In the first quarter of 2025, Frontline achieved $37,200 per day on our VLCC fleet, $31,200 per day on our Suezmax fleet and $22,300 per day on our LR2/Aframax fleet. So far, in the [first] quarter, 68% of our VLCC days are booked at $56,400 per day, 69% of our Suezmax days are booked at $44,900 per day, and 66% of our LR2/Aframax days are booked at $36,100 per day. Again, all numbers in this table are on a low to discharge basis, with implications of ballast days at the end of the quarter. And I think it is worth mentioning that in particular for our LR2s in Q1, we finished the quarter with quite a few ballast days as we entered Q2. Now I'll let Inger take you through the financial highlights. Inger Klemp Thanks, Lars, and good morning and good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Let's then turn to slide 4, profit statement and look at some highlights. We report profit of $33.3 million or $0.15 per share and adjusted profit of $40.4 million or $0.18 per share in this quarter. Adjusted profit in the first quarter decreased by $4.7 million compared with the previous quarter and that was primarily due to a decrease in our time charter earnings from $249 million in the previous quarter to $241 million in the first quarter. That again is a result of lower TCE rates, that was also partially offset by fluctuations in other income and expenses. Let's then look at the balance sheet on slide 5. The balance sheet movements this quarter are related to ordinary items. Frontline has a solid balance sheet and strong liquidity of $805 million in cash and cash equivalents including undrawn amounts of revolver capacity, marketable securities and minimum cash requirements for bank as for March 31, 2025. We have no meaningful debt maturities until 2030 and no new building commitments. Let's then look at slide 6. Fleet Composition, cash breakeven and OpEx. Our fleet consists of 41 VLCCs, 22 Suezmax tankers and 18 LR2 tankers, has an average age of 6.8 years and consists of 99% ECO vessels, where 56% are scrubber fitted. We estimate average cash breakeven rate for the next 12 months of approximately $29,700 per day for VLCCs, $24,300 per day for Suezmax tankers and $23,300 per day for LR2 tankers with a fleet average estimate of about $26,800 per day. This includes drydock cost for 10 VLCCs, two Suezmax tankers and five LR2 tankers. Fleet average estimate, excluding drydock costs is about $25,700 per day or $1,100 per day less. No vessels were drydocked in the first quarter, and we recorded OpEx expenses of $8,400 per day for VLCCs, $8,000 per day for Suezmax tankers and $8,200 per day for LR2 tankers. The Q1 fleet average was [$8,300] per day. Lastly let's look slide 7, cash generation. Frontline has a substantial cash generation potential with about 30,000 earnings days annually. As you can see from the graph on the left-hand side of this slide, the cash generation potential basis our current fleet and May 25 forward rates for TD3C for VLCCs, TD20 for Suezmax tankers and an average of TD25 and TC1 for Aframax and LR2 tankers from the Baltic Exchange as on May 23 is $332 million or $1.49 per share and a 30% increase from current spot market will increase the potential cash generation with about 100%. With this, I'll leave the word to Lars again. Lars Barstad Thank you very much, Inger. Let's look at slide 8 and have a discussion on the various market themes. So I mentioned initially that it's been a lot of noise around us. We've had paralyzing US policy changes likely limited impact on the energy complex so far and for tankers in general, but this is in total quite worrying for global growth prospects. And as we proceed, we will learn how big these impacts may be. We've had a very positive development on sanctions, both by way of scope widening. The various agencies are literally adding new vessels to the sanction list and new operators on a day-to-day basis. But we've also seen that there is a bit more will in enforcement of the same sanctions. But I think most importantly is the behavioral changes specifically by India and China on the way they operate with or towards OFAC listed vessels. And so far, both Russia and India -- sorry, China and India, seem to be shunning vessels that are on the OFAC list. There are some excitement around Russia and the Ukraine ceasefire discussions. There is also a parallel discussion ongoing in respect of nuclear deal with Iran. Both outcomes can have pivotal changes for tanker market dynamics, and I'm going to come to that later. We're also seeing some positive movements on OPEC stances and OPEC policy. They seem at least until now, quite eager on returning oil to the market, which is positive for compliant tank utilization. I'm also going to come into or talk into old school demand, supply and inventory movements. It's quite funny, this chart was a recurring theme in our presentations kind of early in 2020 and 2021 and so forth, but it's been out of the deck for a while. But there are some interesting moves happening. And also, again, reiterate the same after Q4 report. Active trading fleet has stopped growing and despite the deliveries we're going to see in 2025 and to some extent '26 as well. The overall trading fleet looks to continue to reduce. I would very much like to draw your attention to the chart on the top right-hand side, and this is kind of mind boggling. If you look at vessels that are either sanctions, not sanctioned yet, but have been lifting Iranian-Russian (inaudible) barrels during the last year or are older than 20 years that population of vessels makes up 25% of the VLCC fleet. It makes up 46% of the Suezmax fleet and 52% of the Afra/LR2 fleet. Of course, a reversal of actions will make a material amount of particularly Suezmax and Aframax return to the market. A lot of these guys that are lifting Russian barrels are doing so in accordance with the price cap. So they are, of course, perfectly allowed to do that but any tightening on sanctions could suddenly make them move from the gray side to the more dark side. There is also an increase in demand for non-UA listed vessels, in particular the Russian market. And this portion of the fleet is gradually growing. But it also exemplifies how sensitive our market is to sanctions and changes in sanctions, basically due to the amount of tonnage that is up or in play. So let's move to slide 9 and look at the old school market logics. The chart on the left, it is a bit extreme, but it's obviously post-COVID development in oil demand and supply. So quite a steep pricing curve there in the beginning, but now, it's more normalized. If you look at the gray area, which represents EIA latest forecast, we're actually moving into an overall supply and demand around 106 million barrels by the end of 2026. What's more interesting is that supply, and this is obviously motivated by [OPEC's] increase, but also or fueled by OPEC's increase but also to some extent, by expected production growth in especially Guiana and some in Brazil where we're going to end up in an oversupplied position in the oil markets. Historically, and this is the chart on the right. If you look at the ebb and flows of inventory builds and grows, they correlate quite strongly to the performance of the overall tanker market. This is pretty easy to explain, and this is not due to utilization by way of floating storage. You don't need a carrier strong enough to achieve this in the market. It's simply the incremental volume that ends up being transported that's not going directly for consummation it's going for storages, either in China, Japan, Korea or even in the US. And I don't think I need to remind the audience that we are at years low inventory around the globe. Let's move to slide 10. I'd just go through some of the headlines affecting tankers these days. So on tariffs, there was a 90-day delay on the enforcement of the Liberation Day tariff and the tariffs themselves are being eased. Also on the tariff side, energy is to a large exempt. So we don't really fear this will affect global trading patterns that much. On the USTR, the recent proposal from USTR shows a softening stand or softening wording with the key exceptions for oil and energy. The final proposal is expected by the end of May after the more recent hearing. But so far, it looks like exports from the US is extent and oil discharge into the US is not a material exposure to Frontline and also half of our fleet is non-Chinese. So we may still be able to serve that market. Overall, the US accounts for around 17% of the global oil market. So it's not an absolute disaster if this is related to relationship or communication from the USTR remains as we saw it last. We have maximum pressure on Iran 2.0 or a nuclear deal. This is back in the headlines in the middle of this trade war. Negotiations are ongoing, but in the case of making a nuclear deal with Iran for them, lifting sanctions is a red line. And if the audience can imagine what will happen then. So 1.4 million to 1.6 million barrels per day of export capacity that can grow quite rapidly will then all of a sudden become a compliant barrel. And as I've said repetitively, compliant barrels need compliant ships. Yes, you might see some vessels being able to return to the compliance market but in general terms, most of the vessels that are engaged in Iranian trade right now have absolutely no chance to come back into the compliant market. The actors in the compliance market have extremely strict rules and relations around the ships they want to engage. And these ships are also carrying an environmental risk cargo worth for VLCC around $120 million. So it's not something a charter is going to kind of take a light on. Then we have Russian sanctions expansion, this peace or a ceasefire discussion going on between Russia and Ukraine. On the table, there will for sure be sanctions either lifting or tightening? Whether we look at it right now, it's more likely that we're going to see tightening rather than easing. EU lastly, added 168 or I thought thereabouts vessels to their sanction list. UK added 100 about 1.5 weeks ago and it seems like OFAC is going to continue their pursuit to find sanctions breakers around the Russian trade. There is also a discussion coming up whether if the oil price cap is going to be reduced from $60 to $50. So a lot of excitement on that. Then sale exemptions removal, there was formally a situation where you could export equity barrels out of Venezuela so typically Chevron were allowed to take the oil that they actually own in Venezuela. This has to a large degree now been removed, and it's only on a case-by-case basis. We see Chevron being able to take oil out of Venezuela. This means that their exports, which actually grew to 800,000 barrels a day in the last cycle is now going dark. And then we have this, as I also touched upon earlier, the Shandong Port and India OFAC compliance. This is extremely welcoming because it's actually the only way sanctions can work is that the receivers or the actors self-functioning using these vessels. We have the Red Sea, Israel and Hamas and I should add in the US to this. There is now a ceasefire between US and the Houthis. This has not materially changed our position on trading the Red Sea area. And it has not materially altered traffic claims yet but it's also so that it's quite a fluid situation and any kind of action that happens around this conflict could suddenly trigger an attack. So, so far, we do not want to risk the lives of our seafarers by trading through the Red Sea. But then finally, we have OFAC (inaudible) which is almost disappearing in all these other narratives that have said that they might potentially kind of return their voluntary cuts back to the market by October. It's going to be exciting to see what comes out of the next meeting, and there is already signals that they might add 411,000 barrels per day in July as well. What we have seen in the initial production rises have not really given us that many more molecules into the market. I think this is primarily due to the fact but it's more a paper exercise to catch up to the overproduction that's already present in OPEC. But from June onwards, the volumes that might come will be real molecules coming into the market. I'd like to draw your attention to the right-hand side on this slide, and you've all seen the fleet development with the orange line being vessels just plainly below 20 years of age. And again, it's still so that very few shafters, if any, accept the ship that's above 20 years in our industry. But if you look at the chart now, here, we've looked at basically all tankers that take part in the market that are not OFAC listed and not on long-term storage and not coastal trading tankers. And there, you can see that the overall tanker fleet actually shrunk by 0.5% in 2024 and including all the deliveries coming into 2025. It's not really that many, but there are some looks to continue to shrink. Let's move to slide 11, and I'm quite happy to say that sanctions actually do work not by way of volume. It's more or less -- it's quite sticky, the volume that is coming into the market. But by way of the fleet that is actually carrying this oil. The January expansion of particular of sanctions and also the self-sanctioning by China and India has made the market conditions for an OFAC listed tanker extremely poor. As particularly, the Russian crude has been below the price cap, it's attracted a lot of compliance tonnage to come in and service this market. But this kind of fall in utilization OFAC listed tankers is extremely promising. On the right-hand side on the top, we've played with a scenario that sanctions are removed and this is important because tightening sanctions and removal of sanctions will actually both yield a positive effect on our market. And there's about 7 million barrels per day of global transported oil that is exposed to one sanction or another around the world. And just imagine if all this comes back. It's not likely, but it just gives you a picture. This 7 million barrels would equate to more than 200 VLCCs worth of transport need and looking at the fleet composition, it's not very likely that we have that kind of capacity easily. I think it is, however, likely that one or maybe two of these will actually come in and become non-sanction barrels over the next years. Back to sanctions. This is due work. If you look at Iranian crude inventories, the floating storage seems to be on the rise. And this is basically due to crude struggling to find a home. Let's move to slide 12 and looking at the good old order book. There's nothing material that's changed since our Q4 report, but I'd like to draw the attention to the fact that for the VLCCs that are now far more OFAC-listed VLCCs than there are vessels in the order book. Suezmax more of the same, if you adjust for was on OFAC and mind you, OFAC listed vessels are extremely unlikely to return to the compliant market, the order book is almost ignorable. And the same goes for Aframax and LR2s, even though the LR2 has a very high nominal order book. If we look or kind of have a look back at the chart I showed on slide 8, with 52% of that fleet exposed to one sanction or another, we're actually not that worried about that fleet going forward. Also, on the age situation for LR2s in particular, they seem to lose efficiency and become less attractive as a products trading vessel at the age of 15. And this is still the case in the normal tanker market. So let's move to slide 13 and look at the summary. I've basically put the positive heading of pressure building question mark. That's at least what it feels like on the floor here. So oil supply and demand suggest we approach a period with the old school inventory buildings with the utilization implications that has for the tanker market in general. Demand for compliant tonnage is growing as the sanction scope and enforcement widens. And again, the fact that certain key players in this market are actually self-sanctioning, particularly against OFAC. Less active tanker fleet growth will remain muted for 2025. We actually continue to see oil demand looking to increase and considering the aging of the fleet, this gives us the tailwind we need further into '25 and into '26. Policy changes do create more questions and answers. We will get hopefully some answers by the end of this month, but the overall wording has softened. And again, I'm going to repeat this until it changes, world oil trade continues to be serviced by the oldest fleet in more than two decades. And obviously, if we look at the regulatory landscape we are in with the carbonization being a key goal for the industry, this is very contradicting. And lastly, Frontline continue to retain our material upside, as Inger pointed to. We have a modern spot-exposed fleet ready to service the compliant oil market. Thank you for that, and we can open up for questions. Operator (Operator Instructions) Sherif Elmaghrabi, BTIG. Sherif Elmaghrabi Hi. Thanks for taking my questions. First, at a high level, when I look at VLCC fixtures over the last few weeks, activity in the Atlantic has been a bit on the quiet side. Do you think that's a reaction to OPEC's accelerated ramp? And do you have a sense what might drive more long-haul cargoes out of the Atlantic Basin? Lars Barstad Yeah. No. It's a very good question. The [ARB] and basically the economics of US exports is very much an ebb and flow business. We actually find it difficult to explain the quietness in the US Gulf area as we speak, basically. In general terms, there is quite a bit of tonnage sitting on oil majors and traders' hands. And these are fixtures you will not really see in the market. They will basically be concluded in-house, and the material will sail. So it could be a degree of that. But it could also be a degree of refinery runs in the US ahead of summer. That basically lessens the demand for exports or the push for exports. And lastly, there is also an element around Canada, who have increased their exports away from US, not materially because it's limited mostly to the TMX pipeline expansion, but it also adds to the picture. But as I say on the same note, we have seen extremely active flows coming out of Brazil and also a good volume coming out of Guyana. And we've also seen an increased interest, particularly from India on lifting West African barrels. Sherif Elmaghrabi That's great color, Lars. And just one on, I guess, on the operating side. Operating costs were a bit higher sequentially and also year-over-year on a per vessel basis. So could you shed some light on what's driving that? Inger Klemp Yeah. If you refer to this ship operating expenses this quarter, it was more like a going rate in a way. The number you had last quarter was affected by rebates on insurance and on the supplier rebates, about $4.9 million. So I think the $60.3 million is more like going ahead in a way. Also, if you refer to the administrative expenses, you can't really compare these two numbers, I guess, each other. You have to adjust for this re-evaluation of the synthetic option liability that we are giving information about in the press release. In the Q4, you had a gain of $7.9 million and in Q1, you have a loss of $1.6 million. So if you do those adjustments, you will see that the cost increase in Q1 on administrative expenses is only $2 million. And then you have the interest expense, which is down from previous quarter with about $6 million. So all in all, actually, we are quite good on cost development. Operator John Chappell, Evercore ISI. Jonathan Chappell Thank you. Good afternoon, Lars. Frontline had a tried and true strategy. You're sticking with it, a lot of spot market exposure, 100% dividend payout ratio, you just refinanced the balance sheet probably arguably the strongest -- the capital structure has been this millennium. You've laid out a very positive industry dynamic with OPEC production increases in the older fleet and all the headlines, et cetera, and it feels for the first time that business model isn't being appreciated. It feels like it's the first time with this much of a positive outlook in the industry, your balance sheet as strong as it is, still well above cash breakeven and that you're trading at a discount to NAV. So do you feel like there needs to be a strategic change, whether it's the way that you think about your leverage, whether it's the way you think about your fleet, the dividend versus buyback? Anything that you think needs to be altered to get Frontline back to that premium valuation at a time when the industry outlook is still favorable? Lars Barstad It's an extremely good question, John. And you've been very long in head in Frontline very well. And the fact that we're giving this kind of discount surprises as well. Relative to peers, Q4 was -- not relative to peers, but together with peers, Q4 was an absolute disaster for tanker stocks. I think kind of if you compare it to last year this time, it was a lot more fun to be a tanker CEO and the incoming calls from large generalists globally was literally on a weekly basis. I think they did not appreciate the fact that the second half last year failed and have lots of alternatives in their investment universe. So it means that we basically have kind of an outflow of shareholders in our stock, which has put us on under some pressure. We also note that the short interest in Frontline is a unusual high which probably could be in connection with kind of big investment banks having global strategies going and we're a shortened Frontline suit that purpose. So my impression is that previously, investors were willing to price expectations or a 12-month forward NAV into the share, but they have a much lower in connection of doing that now and basically want to see the proof in the pudding before they make the investment decision. So that I think that's kind of I hope that's the kind of reason and not necessarily that front line is running the wrong strategy. We're actually trying to act quite disciplined in this market, it's tempting to engage in the same time charter contracting and take away the upside. Some of our peers have done that quite extensively. We want to retain the upside because we still have a very firm belief that this market is going to kind of give us some money back over the coming years. Jonathan Chappell Just as a quick follow-up to that, and along the same lines of thinking, there's also been some asset sales in the industry at values that are still somewhat elevated, especially for older tonnage. And I understand that the sanction fleet or shadow fleet where you want to call it is under a bit more pressure. But are there opportunities for you? You still have 81 vessels, a ton of operating leverage. Are there some older vessels that you may be able to monetize now without giving up much of your operating leverage? But maybe providing a bit of an arb on asset values versus equity value? Lars Barstad Of course, but as you probably appreciate, and I don't think it's a big secret, some of the demand for the more vintage tonnage is coming from counterparties that quite obviously want to engage in trades we don't like. So we're very cautious on addressing that market. However, there are also players out there and that's not necessarily a big owners now, but have a growth strategy for the compliant market and actually see the same opportunity in buying vessels that have five to seven years life in them or for storage projects or conversion projects. So you're right, there are opportunities out there. But we want to retain this magic [$30,000] earnings days per year. We have maybe one candidate out there, but it's not going to be material in our strategy to reduce the fleet here. Operator Omar Nokta, Jefferies. Omar Nokta Thank you. Hi, Lars. Hi, Inger. Good afternoon. Just a couple of questions from my end and maybe just first on the market. We've seen obviously VLCCs improve here into the second quarter, definitely better than what we saw second half of last year. As you said, it was a real disappointment back then. But things have improved, although they don't necessarily jump off the page when we look at where rates are. I guess from your perspective, how would you say things have been progressing. We've seen the sanctions take out a big portion of the fleet. We've got the OPEC volumes now coming. How do you explain the rate structure today? Is it still too early to expect a real gapping up? Have we seen the benefit yet of these sanctions fully? Or is there still more to come? Lars Barstad I don't think we've seen it fully. Well, first of all, just on the OPEC side, as I mentioned in the presentation, we haven't really seen the impact on cargoes that they have kind of month-over-month growth materially from the Middle East OPEC producers. And the only kind of area where we've seen a significant growth is out of Kazakhstan, which might actually be the reason why OPEC decided to do this. But on the general note, what we're observing and hopefully it's a trend is that ever since it started off, of course Venezuela being sanctioned around going back being fully sanctioned and we saw that volume getting kind of moving over to the dark side. Then Chem Russia, which is a big chunk coming into the dark side, basically, the incremental barrel that comes to market now and mind you, demand is still growing is actually coming from compliance sources. So the market that we operate in has actually seen a gradually declining volume, particularly, Iran has been able to ramp up their exports quite materially second half last year. And but now that's finished too. And I've said before that this will be solved eventually anyway because kind of it's not very likely that Iran, Venezuela or Russia can manage to increase direct production and exports materially going forward. Then you need compliant oil exports to grow to satisfy demand. And that seems to be going on now and further amplified by the fact that the OPEC is returning barrels to the market. So this is kind of good news for the compliant fleet. And a lot of these barrels are VLCC barrels. And that's why we made a huge investment in VLCC, half our fleet are VLCCs. We believe that maybe it can be the dorm of a proper VLCC market over the next six months. Omar Nokta Thanks Lars. And I guess maybe just a quick follow-up to that point over the next six months, your last comment there. How do you think the summer seasonality shakes out this year? Does that take a back seat you think to kind of the current dynamics that you're talking about? Lars Barstad I think the most exciting part around what's going to happen in the near term and over the summer, I think on which will sit now, the slide 11, where I mentioned that sanctions actually do work. Any action coming out of EU or US in respect of the sanctions and it's very likely to come quickly because either you have a breakdown or a success in the nuclear talks in Iran or people get tired of no ceasefire being able to be negotiated between Russia and Iran. So I think we're talking weeks rather than months before you're going to see increased action either way in this respect. And since this volume is pulling now so much tonnage out of the compliant market. And also these sanctions means so much to the utilization on the compliant fleet. I think we can have a very interesting summer if you just look at the political narrative around these two situations in particular. Omar Nokta Yeah. Thank you, Lars. And just a final one, maybe perhaps to you, Inger. The refinancing of the '24 VLCCs. Obviously, nice to have that termed out now until 2030. You did refinance as you mentioned, the release 3.5 years before maturity of the existing or prior facility. What would you say was the main driver of the refinance doing it so early was the margin benefit that important? Or was it really about extending the duration? Inger Klemp It was the margin reduction, which was the most important. And obviously, the extension was kind of a benefit on top of it the way. Omar Nokta Can you get a sense of what the savings were on the spread? Inger Klemp Well, we came from a level which was not, let's say, our norm. We can call it that. So I wouldn't be precise on it. But we were about 200 basis points and now we are at 170. Operator Geoffrey Scott, Scott Asset Management. Geoffrey Scott Good morning. Thank you for taking my question. On page 6 of the presentation, in the presentation for 4Q '24 said that the drydock for the next 12 months or for calendar '25 was going to be two Vs and one Suezmax tanker. And then on today's presentation, we've upped it to 10 Vs, two Suez and five LRs. And all we've done is slide into the first quarter of 2026. Is that just a normal very heavy drydock for that first quarter of '26? Or is there something else happening to the maintenance of the fleet? Inger Klemp No. You're completely correct about what we mentioned that it was two VLCCs and one Suezmax last time we spoke. And that was for the calendar year of '25. Then what happened now is that two VLCCs were moved from '26 into in Q4 in '25. And then in addition to that, we have added on the first quarter of '26 since this is a 12-month forward-looking cash breakeven rate. And that takes the total number to these 10 VLCCs, two Suezmax and five LR2s because it's kind of very many of these vessels which are going to be dry docked in 2026 or dry docked in the first quarter. Geoffrey Scott Okay. So it's a heavy maintenance for the first quarter of 2026? Inger Klemp Yeah. Lars Barstad And just to add, this obviously follows the age and delivery of the vessel, it's not untypical that you have deliveries lumped into first quarter of any year. And this time, we have quite a few ships due in 2026. Geoffrey Scott Okay. Thank you. Quick question for you, Lars. You're suggesting it's going to be a lot harder to trade OFAC ships in the future, trade restrictions plus the age they're never coming back into the compliant market. One would think that would drive the older ships and the OFAC ships to scrapping. And so far, that has not happened. What do you think will be necessary to drive that scrapping decision? And when do you think it's likely to happen? Thank you. Lars Barstad Yeah. No. It's a very, very good question and thank you for bringing it up because this is something that needs to come into the discussion with IMO and other regulatory offices or whatever you call it, because we actually have a big issue ahead of us. If you look at, I think the last number I saw, if you combine all the various sanctioned entities and ships -- ships actually the relevant ones here. We were talking about 600, 700 ships being on OFAC list or EU sanction list or similar. What some of you might not know is that the recycling industry is a dollar industry. And they need to do their KYC and they obviously can't buy a vessel for recycling from an actor that has broken sanctions. So this is kind of a clog in the recycling world. So there, I think actually the needs to be set up some sort of rules for exemptions for recycling. And this is typically where IMO as a UN organization can take a strong initiative in order to find a method how we can facilitate that because the scary picture is that these vessels will sit somewhere in Southeast Asia with keys in and just be kind of a floating environmental bumps. So it's a very kind of good point to make. And hopefully, this is going to come up higher on the agenda from the regulators, hopefully higher than further the decarbonization. So have that conversation first and then we can talk on the decarb later. And on timing, it's regretfully so that these processes take very, very long until they sit in front. So there was this -- we also see that was sitting outside Libya -- no, sorry, Syria, it sat there for 15 years until people were able to actually do something about it. Operator Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. I would now like to down the conference back to Lars Barstad for closing remarks. Lars Barstad Well, thank you very much for dialing in. Spring is ahead of us, hopefully, it will be a spring in the tanker market as well as we proceed. And obviously, every headline that comes up can be important for our markets. So with that, thank you all. Operator This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect. Sign in to access your portfolio

After Klarna, Zoom's CEO also uses an AI avatar on quarterly call
After Klarna, Zoom's CEO also uses an AI avatar on quarterly call

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time23-05-2025

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After Klarna, Zoom's CEO also uses an AI avatar on quarterly call

In Brief CEOs are now so immersed in AI, they're sending their avatars to address quarterly earnings calls instead of themselves, at least partially. After the Klarna CEO's AI avatar appeared on an investor call earlier this week, Zoom CEO Eric Yuan followed suit, also using his avatar for initial comments. Yuan deployed his custom avatar via Zoom Clips, the company's asynchronous video creation tool. 'I am proud to be among the first CEOs to use an avatar in an earnings call,' he — or rather his avatar — said. 'It is just one example of how Zoom is pushing the boundaries of communication and collaboration. At the same time, we know trust and security are essential. We take AI-generated content seriously and have built in strong safeguards to prevent misuse, protect user identity, and ensure avatars are used responsibly.' Yuan has long advocated for using avatars in meetings and has previously said that the company aims to create digital twins of users. He's not alone in this vision; the CEO of AI-powered transcription service Otter is reportedly training his own avatar to share the workload. Meanwhile, Zoom said that it is making the custom avatar add-on feature available to all users this week.

Yalla Group Ltd (YALA) Q1 2025 Earnings Call Highlights: Strong Revenue Growth and Strategic ...
Yalla Group Ltd (YALA) Q1 2025 Earnings Call Highlights: Strong Revenue Growth and Strategic ...

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time20-05-2025

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Yalla Group Ltd (YALA) Q1 2025 Earnings Call Highlights: Strong Revenue Growth and Strategic ...

Revenue: USD 83.9 million, a 6.5% increase year-over-year. Net Income: USD 36.4 million, a 17% increase year-over-year. Net Margin: Improved to 43.4% from 39.5% year-over-year. Non-GAAP Net Margin: Increased to 46.6%. Average Monthly Active Users: Increased by 17.9% year-over-year to 44.6 million. Total Costs and Expenses: USD 52.7 million, a 6.2% increase year-over-year. Cash and Cash Equivalents: USD 690.9 million as of March 31, 2025. Share Repurchase: USD 27.4 million repurchased in 2025, with a total planned buyback of USD 50 million for the year. Outlook for Q2 2025 Revenue: Expected to be between USD 76 million and USD 83 million. Warning! GuruFocus has detected 6 Warning Sign with YALA. Release Date: May 20, 2025 For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript. Yalla Group Ltd (NYSE:YALA) reported a strong first quarter with revenue reaching USD 84 million, a 6.5% increase year-over-year, surpassing the upper end of their guidance. The company's net margin improved significantly from 39.5% to 43.4% year-over-year, indicating enhanced profitability. Yalla Group Ltd (NYSE:YALA) successfully increased its average monthly active users by 17.9% year-over-year to 44.6 million, demonstrating strong user growth. The company has committed to a substantial share repurchase program, raising the buyback target to USD 50 million for 2025, reflecting a strong commitment to shareholder returns. Yalla Group Ltd (NYSE:YALA) is leveraging AI to enhance user acquisition efficiency and optimize user experience, contributing to improved financial performance. The global economic volatility and shifting international economic policies pose risks to Yalla Group Ltd (NYSE:YALA)'s future performance. Despite the revenue increase, the cost of revenues as a percentage of total revenues increased to 34.8%, indicating rising operational costs. General and administrative expenses rose by 30.8% year-over-year, primarily due to increased incentive compensation and professional services fees. Technology and product development expenses increased by 25% year-over-year, driven by higher salaries and benefits, which could pressure future margins. The company's revenue guidance for the second quarter of 2025 is between USD 76 million and USD 83 million, reflecting potential challenges in maintaining growth momentum. Q: What's the main driver of the significant year-over-year increase in net margin and guidance for next quarter and this year? A: Yang Hu, CFO, explained that the main growth driver on the revenue side is the game services, particularly the flagship product Yalla Ludo. On the expense side, there has been a significant decrease in selling and marketing expenses due to enhanced user acquisition efficiency driven by an AI predictive model. The net margin is expected to remain around 40% for the next quarter. Q: Can management please share the recent developments of the two flagship products, Yalla and Yalla Ludo? A: Saifi Ismail, President, stated that Yalla is celebrating its ninth anniversary with major in-app celebrations and updates to enrich user experience. Yalla Ludo continues to boost user engagement through online community activities and tournaments across MENA countries, effectively expanding its brand influence. Q: Could you share the latest thinking behind the shareholder return plan going forward? A: Tao Yang, CEO, mentioned that the buyback program is accelerating, with a commitment to at least double last year's buyback amount. The buyback target has been raised by an additional USD 22 million, bringing the total planned share repurchases to USD 50 million for 2025. All shares repurchased this year will be canceled to deliver sustained benefits to shareholders. Q: Could management update us on the advancements in mid-core and hard-core games? A: Jianfeng Xu, COO, stated that several mid-core games are in the pipeline, with potential launches as early as Q3. The focus is not only on the Middle East but also on exploring other overseas markets to expand the user base. Q: Looking ahead, where do you see a more measured acquisition plan in the future? A: Jianfeng Xu, COO, noted that Q1's MAU growth exceeded expectations due to a refined user acquisition strategy and AI-driven traffic acquisition optimizations. The full-year MAU growth is expected to be around 10% year-over-year, with dynamic adjustments based on product and community needs. For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript. This article first appeared on GuruFocus. Error in retrieving data Sign in to access your portfolio Error in retrieving data Error in retrieving data Error in retrieving data Error in retrieving data

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