
The Trouble With Wanting Men
There comes a time, usually, when a few extra beats of eye contact are enough. We passed through these beats, took each other's wrists and met across the table, which was wide enough to frustrate kissing in the right way, keeping the rest of us well apart. Back at my place he was a little shy, I thought, or a little out of practice, but I felt he wanted me, which was what I wanted — to be organized and oriented by his desire, as though it were a point on the dark horizon, strobing.
'I was really looking forward to seeing you again,' he texted me the following week, around lunchtime, 'but I'm going through some intense anxiety today and need to lay low :(.'
'Totally understand,' I replied, but I didn't. Feeble, fallible 'looking forward' is not longing; a man should want me urgently or not at all. I was about to collapse into a ritual of frustrated horniness (fantasy, masturbation, snacks) when a friend urged me to join her and two other women for dinner.
'Of course he has anxiety,' said one of them, a therapist, who sat across from me at the restaurant. 'That's life. That's being alive and going to meet someone you don't know well.'
'Yeah,' said the woman beside her, a historian. 'It's called 'sexual tension.' Stay with it for a minute and you might get some.'
'They can't,' said my friend with triumphant disgust. She told us about a woman she knew who was dating a man from another city. After weeks of saying 'I can't wait to see you,' the man ghosted her during his actual visit. His explanation later? He'd been 'too anxious.'
'Aww, poor baby!' cried the historian, and we all cooed and moaned for the poor wittle fraidy-cat boo-boo, working ourselves into a frenzy of laughter over men's inability to 'man up and [expletive] us.' We were four women at a vegan restaurant in downtown Manhattan; we knew what show we were in, and we couldn't help but wonder, in a smug, chauvinistic way: Where were the men who could handle hard stuff? Like leaving the house for sex?
The therapist mused about the anxiety of needing to 'justify the phallus.' 'You know,' she said, 'from the child's point of view, it's like, 'I get what Mom is for, but what are you for? What's the point of your thing?'' This sent us miming confrontations with imaginary members — 'Who invited you?' 'What's your deal?' 'Are you lost?' — which led to wisecracks about the not-so-precision scalpel of the surgeon the therapist was seeing. Privately, jokes aside, I am quite susceptible to penis — like, I worry that in some Hobbesian state of nature I might just automatically kneel to the prettiest one — but lately I have been bruised by the ambivalence of men, how they can first want me and then become confused about what they want, and this bawdy, diminishing humor soothed me, made me feel more powerful, more in control.
'When did the men get so anxious about desire?' asked the therapist, and I said I didn't know. 'Yes, you do,' my friend said. 'It was when they were put on notice that they can't just get drunk and grope us.'
I haven't been dating long (just the other day my ex-husband and I received our Judgment of Divorce as an email attachment), but long enough to discover that I have a type. He is gentle, goofy, self-deprecating, rather deferential, a passionate humanist, a sweet guy, a 'good guy.' He tends to signal, in various ways, his exemption from the tainted category of 'men,' and it is perfectly understandable that he would wish to do so. It must be mildly embarrassing to be a straight man, and it is incumbent upon each of them to mitigate this embarrassment in a way that feels authentic to him.
One of the reasons my marriage ended was that I fell in love with another man — whom I'll refer to by his first initial, J. Spontaneously graceful, with a soft voice and an inordinate, sad-eyed smile, J. made me laugh, stopping my breath. Being a 'good guy,' he intimated from the jump that he did not know how to 'do' relationships, giving me to understand that if I expected one with him (or, as he may have conceptualized it, from him), I did so at my peril (which was his peril, too, since he would hate to hurt me). Still, he pursued me; we seemed to be 'doing' something together.
I keep encountering and hearing about men who 'can't.' Have these men not heard of 'don't want to?'
My husband and I had an open relationship at the time that J. and I met, so the terms of our involvement were, at first, limited, and although J. exerted a pleasant pressure against these limitations, ultimately they suited him. I was the one who violated the terms by finding it intolerable, after a while, to care that much, in that way, for one person while being married to another. I could not disambiguate sex from love nor love from devotion, futurity, family integration, things I wanted with (from?) J., even as, throughout the year and a half or so that we saw each other, he continued to gesture to his incapacity to commit as if it were a separate being, an unfortunate child who followed and relied upon him, maybe, or a physical constraint. I stood there reaching for him while he sad-faced back at me like a boxed mime: He couldn't talk about it; he wished things were different; maybe someday the child would mature, the glass would break, but for now, there was really nothing to be done.
It seems to me, surveying the field as a dating novice, that this kind of studiously irreproachable male helplessness abounds. I keep encountering and hearing about men who 'can't.' Have these men not heard of 'don't want to?'
Maybe my friend was right about male anxiety at this moment. Maybe the men are taking a beat, 'laying low,' unsure of how to want, how to talk, how to woo. Maybe they are punishing us for the confusion.
There are many routes to the species of disappointment I am circling here, but however we get there, the complaint is so common, such a cultural and narrative staple, that the academy is weighing in. We now have a fancy word, 'heteropessimism,' to describe the outlook of straight women fed up with the mating behavior of men. Coined by the sexuality scholar Asa Seresin, who later amended it to 'heterofatalism,' the term seems, at first glance, to distill a mood that is no less timely for being timeless.
'It was rly nice,' a close friend texted me recently, reporting on her third date with a lawyer. 'He's really really sweet and nice to me and good at sex. No doubt something humiliating and nightmarish will occur soon.' On more than one occasion, when my friend checked in with the lawyer to confirm tentative plans, he did not respond to her for many hours, or even a day. Granted, he worked a punishing schedule, but, my friend reasoned, it takes 90 seconds to send a quick reply. The dissonance between his caring and attentive in-person behavior and these silences confused her, and she mentioned this to him. The lawyer was sorry he had kept her waiting — he hadn't meant to — but, he said, her complaint had got him thinking: He unfortunately wasn't able to escalate whatever was happening between them into a 'relationship.' My friend clarified that she had not been asking to escalate anything, merely expressing a need for clarity about plans. He understood that, he said, but their 'communication skills' were obviously too different for them to continue dating.
The humiliating and nightmarish part, she explained to me, was not so much the rejection as being cast against her will as 'woman eager for relationship.' In her memoir, 'Fierce Attachments,' Vivian Gornick describes the anguish of being ignored by a lover to her female friend: 'What I couldn't absorb,' she writes, 'was his plunging us back into the cruelty of old-fashioned man-woman stuff, turning me into a woman who waits for a phone call that never comes and himself into the man who must avoid the woman who is waiting.'
'I'm really done,' my friend said. 'I can't keep doing this. I don't want to be hurt and misunderstood constantly. I need to find some other way to live.' I agreed without thinking about it. (This is part of the pessimism, right? The feeling that further thinking about all of this is futile. Surely we have done enough thinking by now.) 'I wish I could just be gay with you,' she said, and I said I wished that, too, so much. This was our commiserative routine — what Seresin might call our 'performative disaffiliation with heterosexuality' — our spin on 'Take my wife, please.' Take my straightness, please. Take my attraction to men.
Is 'heterofatalism' a useful concept? I took it up for a while, considered the positions. The writer and gender scholar Sara Ahmed has advanced the idea of 'complaint as feminist pedagogy,' arguing that to bitch is inherently transgressive, a form of resistance, while the philosophy professor Ellie Anderson suggests that women venting their dating woes constitutes a kind of negativity as rebellion. Was that what my friends and I were doing over dinner? Rebelling?
The humiliating and nightmarish part was not so much the rejection as being cast against her will as 'woman eager for relationship.'
If the experts say my romantic letdowns have some larger social significance, I am not going to argue. The men I want are not wanting me badly enough, not communicating with me clearly enough, not devoting themselves to me: All this certainly seems calamitous enough to warrant an 'ism.' And if it is an 'ism,' the problem cannot be me. It must be men, right? Men are what is rotten in the state of straightness, and why shouldn't we have an all-inclusive byword for our various pessimisms about them? Domestic pessimism (they still do less of the housework and child care); partner-violence pessimism (femicide is still gruesomely routine); erotic pessimism (the clitoris and its properties still elude many of them). And the petulantly proud masculinist subcultures that have arisen, at least in part, as reactions to these pessimisms keep coughing up new reasons to fear, rage against and complain about 'men.'
But those 'men' are not the men my friends and I are feeling bleak about. It's the sweet, good ones. Dammit.
I would like to believe there is something purposeful, resistant, even radical in the heterofatalist mode, but the more I voice it, the more I am inclined to agree with Seresin that it can produce nothing but more of itself. 'Heterosexuality is nobody's personal problem,' he writes. 'It doesn't make sense to extricate your own straight experience from straightness as an institution.' It isn't that my friend needs to find 'some other way to live'; it's that we all do. But instead of looking for it, we disaffected women 'perform' for one another this mutually enabling kind of maintenance, periodically off-gassing some of the shame and frustration of dating men and then chugging along with the status quo.
Whatever Seresin's vision is, most of us can neither renounce our heterosexuality nor realize a significant renegotiation of its terms. What we can do, at least for now, is negotiate with ourselves. We can try to dodge 'old-fashioned man-woman stuff' by acting hopeless about relationships rather than 'eager' for them. Maybe this is the utility of 'heterofatalism' — naming the bitter pill before we force ourselves to swallow it and put on a carefree smile. Nice to meet you, 'good guy'; I am 'woman who expects nothing.'
I was doubled over laughing, briefly tasting the knee of my jeans, while the man next to me on the sectional couch strummed a guitar and did a spot-on imitation of Bruce Springsteen. He had that lifting-something-heavy moan down cold, and he was improvising a song about work, American work in the American heartland, hyperbolically tough and tragic male work. Because I was losing it, he kept going, and I kept losing it, and at a certain point I wasn't sure if I was overpowered by amusement or just overpowered by him.
On the way to his place, I had been texting with my aunt. 'Word from an expert,' she wrote. 'Wait til he wants it so bad he's nutsy cuckoo. Sounds facile but, man, truer words were never spoken. 'Make 'em Suffer' is my mantra!'
I kept catching myself staring at his mouth, his bottom lip. He told me to slow down; he needed time to get a better sense of how I worked. I lay back to murmur, let him try stuff, and he warmed to his own control, putting his mouth right up to mine, then pulling away when I tried to engage his tongue. 'I see what you are,' he said finally, pinning my forearms. 'You're a bratty sub.' He held himself there, just out of reach, breathing on me. 'I like to make you wait,' he said.
He did make me wait. I stood at the slot machine watching those cherries and fat yellow coins blur by, and they didn't stop. He was sweet with me in person, impulsive about biting my nose, but for stretches I wouldn't hear from him, or I would but only perfunctorily, and then, suddenly, he would pop up. Requesting clarification on what a man feels or wants or sees happening here has gotten me burned before, as it has many women I know. I have learned to regard such demands as 'demanding' in a feminized way — simultaneously bossy and supplicating, a reinscribing of the 'bratty sub' position. Taking my cues from him, I stayed mostly quiet. Call it 'communication pessimism.'
On the bed, the 'female demand-male withdraw' pattern pulses with sensuality; in life it sometimes feels like it will drive me out of my senses.
When my friend complained about the lawyer, I expressed outrage at his behavior and worked my way, quite naturally and along a well-worn groove, to a condemnation of all — OK, most — men as incapable of upholding basic standards of communication and care. I was thinking, of course, about J., and I am not proud that my instinctive response to the shame of being gender-stereotyped by life is to pay another stereotype forward. (Men suck. Groundbreaking!)
That said, men's struggle to communicate in romantic relationships is widespread enough to have earned a psychological designation: 'normative male alexithymia,' or the condition of being unable to put words to emotions. This incapacity, Ellie Anderson argues, often forces women who date men to become 'relationship-maintenance experts,' solidifying what she cites as 'the most common communication pattern among heterosexual dating couples … the 'female demand-male withdraw' pattern.' Woman approaches man to discuss something; man removes himself.
On the bed, the 'female demand-male withdraw' pattern pulses with sensuality; in life it sometimes feels like it will drive me out of my senses, and it creates work — tough, tragic female work. In the 1980s, the sociologist Arlie Russell Hochschild coined the term 'emotional labor' to describe paid work that 'involves trying to feel the right feeling for the job' (i.e. service work, health care, education). It must be an indication of our need for more ways to talk about the invisible affective labor that often falls to women that the term has suffered from 'concept creep,' stretching far past that original meaning to crop up in everyday conversations about unequal divisions of labor in our love lives.
Anderson gives us a new term, related to but distinct from 'emotional labor' and more useful in parsing what we might call the micropolitics of dating: She calls the work women do to interpret mystifying male cues 'hermeneutic labor,' and she posits it as a form of 'gendered exploitation in intimate relationships.' The guy dating my friend may have been too busy lawyering to confirm his plans with her, but meanwhile, Anderson might say, my friend was working two jobs: one to earn her living, the other as sole manager of an emotional entanglement that was also his. Heterofatalism is partly just burnout.
The stranger waiting at my usual back corner table looked a bit squarer than my average date — his hair appeared recently washed and cut, and he wore a button-down shirt — but some restless mischief played in his face, bearing itself fully in his laugh. Our conversation was brisk and jesting; I got the impression he was enjoying my company but that this was more bonus than criterion for him. He was partnered already, he had told me, and seeking only companionate sex; his dating profile referenced this clearly below a picture of him wearing a blue blazer and petting a donkey's head.
We turned eventually to the subject of erotic temperament. He was interested in the possibilities that arise between people when any eventuality of marriage, procreation or fidelity was, so to speak, taken off the bed. What might then happen in that bed? In that community? In that world? Watching his clean-cut boyish form and listening to him speak with the eloquent enthusiasm of a connoisseur, the phrase that occurred to me was 'sex nerd.' Many dabblers in nonmonogamy were not really, he noted with a laugh, quoting the rapper Pusha T, ''bout dat life.' He was.
I meet this type around sometimes: fluent in the language of polyamory, waving his respectful desire around like a plastic light saber: Pew pew. Why would you play with just one toy when you can take turns with all the toys? While at the same time vaguely subverting … something. Capitalism?
What were my feelings, Sex Nerd wanted to know, about groups? I confessed to having no interest. What can happen between two people, that thing where a pair of beings lock onto and suspend each other, aching for and into each other — I was about that thing, that life. Sure sure, he got that, he respected that — but he had actually found that the intense, intimate kind of connection I described could occur between, say, four people. And when it did, he added with teeth, it was quite an experience.
The bitterness does not replace wanting men, a man, the smell of a man's thin T-shirt, the dampness of the hair at his nape.
I conceded that it was a fascinating prospect, but one I could not mentalize, or at least not in any way that moved me. Totally, he said, that was totally valid. He was generally eager to assure me that my desires were valid, both in person and later, when he wrote to me on more than one occasion to clarify that: 'If you feel our energies aren't matched, I won't argue,' and, 'If friendship only is preferred, I will understand,' and truly, 'No pressure.' Good guy. Protesting a bit much on the consensuality front, but basically a stand-up guy. Evolved, transparent, an enlightened creature of our new romantic age. If only I could desire a man like that, a man bringing such clear terms to the table, enough to be disappointed by him. (Isn't that what desire is? A site of potential disappointment?) But I couldn't, which was another disappointment.
Two bodies were pressed together outside an entrance to the subway on my way home, the man's hand wrapped tightly around the back of the woman's head, and as I passed them a noise escaped me, a choking sound, a performance of disgust for the benefit of some bitter omniscience. The bitterness does not replace wanting men, a man, the smell of a man's thin T-shirt, the dampness of the hair at his nape after he exerts himself; the bitterness grows from the want and is mixed up with it. There must be something wrong, I keep thinking, with the way I desire.
'A good man is hard to want,' a good man wrote in the group chat.
'A hard man is good to find,' said another who knows I haven't had satisfying sex in a minute.
'A man is hard to find good?' said the previous man's girlfriend.
'A good find is hard to man,' I said, as if a guy were a tricky piece of equipment. 'Slow down, I need to get a better sense of how you work.'
'You're flattening the men,' a former lover wrote to me after I sent him a partial draft of this essay. 'They never get to be real — they're used to confirm a story about disappointment and frustration.'
This man and I met last fall when he was, like me, reeling from romantic rejection, and within a half-hour we lunged at each other, as though by tacit agreement to be each other's comforting, orgasm-giving blankies for a time. We traded obsessive accounts of the failed relationships, cheered each other through the rigors of 'no contact,' watched Albert Brooks movies, belted Weezer songs to karaoke tracks on his couch.
Whatever was happening between us went on for about six weeks, at which point I became annoyed that he was withholding something from me, though I couldn't say what exactly, and he became anxious about annoying me, and I accused him of coldness, and he accused me of being unfair, and so on. The familiar 'female demand-male withdraw' pattern descended over us like a polarizing spell, making me more goading and accusatory, him more defended and reserved. Unlike other, similar exchanges in my past, this one had an oddly mechanical quality, as though rather than venting real passions, we were locked into some tiresome, bewitched choreography.
In 'Beyond Doer and Done To,' the feminist psychoanalyst Jessica Benjamin describes the impasse two people can reach where 'each feels unable to gain the other's recognition, and each feels in the other's power.' In this state, which she calls 'complementary twoness,' both people feel helpless, both feel 'done to,' both feel the other is 'leaving us no option except to be either reactive or impotent.'
Who knows how long the dance of complementary twoness would have lasted with my fellow Weezer singer had one or both of us felt ourselves to be in love. As it was, after a couple of weeks we were able to break the enchantment, and we remain friends. Eventually I admitted to him that it had felt more natural to me to default to 'wounded female' rather than assume responsibility for my desires. He, for his part, described a large-looming ex whose adept use of guilt had left its mark. It was one of those moments of becoming aware, suddenly and fleetingly, of how we play ourselves and cast others to play opposite us in the productions of our internal dramas known as days.
My sexuality owes me neither protection nor affirmation; it is out for itself, out for a skirmish, a strain, a smell.
He has questions now, about this piece. Aren't I oversimplifying the case of my friend and the lawyer? Isn't what happened there about more than communication? Don't I recognize a clear incompatibility, arising from both of their insecurities? And regarding hermeneutic labor: Why would a woman want to be with a man who required so much work? Such a woman must intuit that such a man is not ready for a relationship, or that he is unsure of his feelings for her. Isn't she just as much a part of the enactment of whatever 'heteropessimistic' outcome is looming there? In fact, isn't my taking my friend's side, as I seem to do here, related to the phenomenon I am diagnosing? Isn't the impulse to 'choose a side' itself perversely fatalistic, antithetical to the mutual recognition that is the very basis of a relationship?
I toppled the whole structure of my life for a man who, when I asked him, 'Do you want to be with me or not?' replied, after a few seconds' silence, 'I want to be with you, and I want everything everywhere all at once.' J. was referring, of course, to the 2022 surreal sci-fi comedy set across a multitude of parallel universes in which many versions of the protagonists play out many versions of their lives, each millisecond branching fractal-like into countless alternate dimensions, creating infinite selves, infinite fates, infinite answers to the dilemma of how to be and with whom. This film had moved him deeply, seeming to capture qualities of his neurotype that he seldom saw portrayed.
It occurs to me that the multiverse mind-set may also reflect the cognitive effects of dating apps that, defeatist by design, project a mirage of endless romantic possibilities across infinite timelines. One guy I went out with spoke with a hint of longing about the relationship between his grandparents, who barely spoke to each other before getting married as teenagers in Sicily, thrown together by slim-pickings village life, adolescent hormones and the oppressive myth of female honor. What a system, what a gamble, and then both people were trapped for life. But at least you were spared the anxiety of choice. At least there was that.
The structure of my life needed toppling, it turned out, and I am grateful, and I have been doing my best to be J.'s friend. On a recent afternoon, my daughter and I sat on a blanket in a park with him. A group of teenagers were playing volleyball nearby, using a horizontally growing tree as their net. My daughter had a hankering to swing on that tree, and so we were keeping an eye on the teenagers, waiting for them to disband, urging her to be patient. A few days later, I received a characteristically whimsical text: 'In some other timeline we're still waiting by that tree for the teenagers to finish playing volleyball.'
'Some other timeline.' The phrase captures not only J.'s inclination to keep all possibilities perpetually and wistfully open but my own dogged attachment to a foreclosed dimension, my pouring into that hypothetical so much vitality, care and hope — laborious hope — that might have been, and might still be, reserved for what is possible and happening now, only once, in my fleeting middle age. To forego life for a fantasy: What could be more fatalistic than that?
'Maybe the problem is that you're a romantic,' says my former lover-slash-friend-slash-male-sensitivity-reader. 'And maybe so are the other fatalists.' Sure, maybe. We know — have long known — that romanticism and fatalism are dialectical lovers. When love fails, the very quality that elevated it above the common thrum of experience makes it impossible to imagine anything of the kind ever occurring again. The miraculous singularity of being in love is thus particularly fertile soil for a generalizing pessimism: 'I'm attracted to men because I love making bad choices,' goes one quintessentially heterofatalist tweet. This turn, from one man to the imaginary monolith of 'men,' both deprives the wounding man of specificity and shows him a certain loyalty; by casting him to play an entire gender, we make sure that we will meet him again. There is something here of the spirited young nun's frenzied renunciation, slamming the door on romance with an intensely romantic slam, then wedding herself to a male abstraction.
One thing heterofatalism reflects is a persistent lack of faith that those we desire will be able to recognize us as commensurately human. I wonder how much, fearing what we expect and expecting what we fear, we summon the 'old-fashioned man-woman stuff' that keeps coming around. A woman comes, a man withdraws; this embodiment needn't necessarily become pregnant with larger meaning, but it often does. I end up wondering if it is my own fault somehow when the heterosexual dynamic cannot seem to transcend its own tropes, subvert its own symbolism, play out an entirely unpredictable scene.
Seresin rightly pokes fun at the privileged ignorance of straights who, in moments of yearning to experience a desire that we imagine as more extricable from our own oppression, announce a wish to be queer. No relationship — regardless of gender, orientation, number of people — is immune from power dynamics; unequal distribution is always, so to speak, on the bed. But in queer relationships the roles are at least less determined, with perhaps more freedom and flexibility in who assumes which, and how. In other words, maybe our pessimism about straightness arises in part from a dawning sense of its anachronism. Maybe, like the surge of interest in straight nonmonogamy, it's part of heterosexuality's clumsy process of queering itself into a more fluid future.
To break the impasse of 'complementary twoness' that can grip any pair of people, Jessica Benjamin imagines how we might collaborate, over time (and the time is crucial), to create an 'intersubjective third,' a space in which your needs and mine, your desires and mine, recognize and accept each other without competing for dominance. To create such a space, Benjamin says, requires a mutual surrender that is distinct from submission. I find this distinction difficult to grasp, which is perhaps to say that I experience desire in terms of a struggle that someone must lose. I am ready to cop to some unconscious masochism here. A good man is hard to want, after all, and my sexuality owes me neither protection nor affirmation; it is out for itself, out for a skirmish, a strain, a smell.
'The old way of mating is dead,' said my friend at our colloquy of female complaint over dinner, 'and the new one has yet to be born.' What is the new one? Pessimism may help us feel knowing, but really, we don't know. For now, life has us pinned here: 'I like to make you wait.'
Jean Garnett has published essays in The New Yorker, The Paris Review Daily and the Yale Review. A winner of the Pushcart Prize, she is at work on a book about relationships.

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Los Angeles mom of three Heidi opens up to PEOPLE about finding the courage to date in her golden yearsNEED TO KNOW Heidi, a 61-year-old divorcée, says she "lost sense of self" after separating from her husband after 23 years of marriage Her youngest daughter Luna posted a viral TikTok of her posing for swimsuit photos to use for her online dating profile The mother-daughter duo open up to PEOPLE about navigating Heidi's new dating journey togetherHeidi, 61, is looking for love. Over a decade ago, the Los Angeles resident split with her husband after 23 years of marriage, which she tells PEOPLE was "incredible and absolutely amazing" at first — "until it was not anymore." Throughout the relationship, Heidi managed to balance the ups and downs, all while raising three children. "I lost sense of self," she says. "I didn't know who I was. I had to find that again, and it took years." Hopping from one romantic commitment to the next couldn't be far from what newly single Heidi was looking for. "I just felt like I had so much to work on. The last thing I wanted to do was to bring that into another relationship." And while the early stages were rocky at first ("I was very busy in survival mode," she says), bouncing back from divorce wasn't impossible. "Just working on me and my strength, coming up to today, I know who I am and have such a rich, fantastic life in every aspect," she says with a newfound confidence that nudged her to do something completely out of her comfort zone — partaking in a swimsuit photo shoot for an online matchmaking site. In early July, Heidi's youngest daughter Luna, a ballerina and social media influencer, posted a TikTok video showing her mom posing in a bikini against a gorgeous beach backdrop in Portugal. Luna, 24, posted the video with the caption "After being divorced for over 10 years we are helping our mom take her new cover photo" along with, "Anybody have a tall hot dad for her?!" "You have no idea how far away that is from my personality," jokes Heidi, who had a little push from Luna and her other daughter Zoe, 30, to own the moment. "Me and my sister were taking bikini photos and then my mom, she was just looking so cute and we're like, 'Why don't you just get in here?' The photos looked amazing, and me and my sister were like, 'This could be the cover.' It was almost like a joke at the time," says Luna, who describes her mom as a "six-foot unicorn" with a majestic aura that people notice wherever they go. "It's hard to see you not be happy with yourself," she says to her mom. "So especially in moments like that where I know my mom's maybe feeling insecure about her body, I'm like, oh my God, I want her to feel like how we see her." Luna was young when her parents divorced, so she always saw her mother as an independent woman. But over the years, she's been hoping that Heidi would find a solid partner in her golden years that could be a support system and her "best friend," especially since her dad has "moved on" since the separation. She even once signed Heidi up for the Golden Bachelor franchise ("Oh my God, we love to watch it," shares Heidi). Heidi admits that, for a while, she was "petrified of losing" herself in another relationship, but now she's ready to dip her toes back into the dating world. She's not looking for a man with a flashy lifestyle, but someone who understands her on a deeper emotional level. "That person has to add value [to her life]." Never miss a story — sign up for to stay up-to-date on the best of what PEOPLE has to offer, from celebrity news to compelling human interest stories. The two have yet to start up Heidi's account but are "going to work on it for sure." They are, however, preparing to navigate the dating-site tropes, like clocking the stereotypical photos they come across of men holding up fish. In the meantime, Luna can offer sound advice to her mom. "I'd say just stay open-minded. Even if it's a bad date, you're still learning. Putting yourself out there will up your confidence no matter what." Read the original article on People
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13 Sharp Responses For When Someone's Trying To Out-Smart You Publicly
When someone tries to show you up in public, it can be annoying and downright embarrassing. Maybe it's a colleague who wants to look smart in front of the boss or a friend who feels the need to one-up your every word. Whatever the reason, it can throw you off your game. Instead of letting it get to you, having a few sharp responses up your sleeve can make all the difference. Here are 13 clever comebacks for those moments when someone's trying to out-smart you in public. 1. "Interesting Perspective. Let's Dive Deeper." Sometimes, acknowledging someone's point without directly engaging can deflate their attempt to out-smart you. By inviting them to explore the topic further, you shift the focus from a monologue to a dialogue. It shows confidence in your knowledge and willingness to engage, rather than retreat. According to communications expert Deborah Tannen, showing interest in further discussion can diffuse tension and foster constructive conversation. This approach leaves them with the choice to either backtrack or genuinely engage, giving you the upper hand by remaining composed and open-minded. This response works well in group settings because it shows you're not easily fazed. You're inviting others to join in the discussion, which can balance the power dynamic. It subtly implies that you're well-equipped to handle the topic at hand. This can be a great way to remind everyone that the conversation is a shared space, not a personal podium for one. Plus, it often leads to more productive discussions, steering away from pointless point-scoring. 2. "I See You're Passionate, But Here's Another Angle." When someone's coming at you with all they've got, acknowledging their enthusiasm can be a quick way to level the playing field. Adding your twist or perspective shows that you're not just passively listening, but actively engaging. This response can subtly remind them that there are more ways to look at a situation. You don't have to dismiss their point; instead, you're adding to it. This can often turn a competitive atmosphere into a collaborative one. By offering another angle, you're subtly asserting that your insight is equally valuable. It serves as a gentle reminder that discussions are richer with diverse viewpoints. You're not conceding defeat or acknowledging their superiority; you're broadening the conversation. It's a clever way of saying, "I respect your opinion, but I have something valuable to add.' This way, you maintain your dignity and keep the conversation constructive. 3. "What Makes You Say That?" Asking someone why they hold a particular opinion can stop them in their tracks. It encourages them to unpack their thinking, which might reveal weaknesses in their argument. Communication coach Celeste Headlee emphasizes the power of asking questions to encourage deeper discussion and critical thinking. This simple phrase can prompt them to rethink their approach, shifting focus from winning to understanding. It's a way to regain control without being confrontational or defensive. This response invites them to reconsider the basis of their argument. Often, people trying to out-smart others rely on surface-level information. By asking for their reasoning, you're prompting them to go beyond a first impression. It may become evident that they are not as informed as they initially seemed. Plus, it buys you some time to gather your thoughts, putting you back in the conversation with renewed confidence. 4. "I Appreciate Your Insight; Let's See What Others Think." When someone's running circles around you in conversation, bringing others into the fold can dilute the intensity. By acknowledging their input and then inviting others to chime in, you shift the spotlight. It's a polite way of saying, "Let's not make this just about us." You're encouraging a broader discussion that includes everyone, not just the two of you. This way, the person attempting to out-smart you isn't the focus anymore. This tactic can be particularly effective in group settings where opinions are valued. Instead of letting one person's voice dominate, you're advocating for a more democratic approach. This can subtly remind them that while their thoughts are valuable, they aren't the only ones worth listening to. Plus, it gives you a chance to collect your thoughts while others weigh in. It's a win-win for everyone involved and keeps the conversation balanced and inclusive. 5. "That's One Way To Look At It. Ever Considered...?" Offering an alternative perspective can gently challenge someone who is overly confident in their stance. It suggests that while their viewpoint is valid, it's not the only one, encouraging more inclusive thinking. As noted by psychologist Adam Grant, presenting alternative perspectives fosters open-mindedness and can lead to more innovative solutions. This approach puts you in the driver's seat without making the other person feel belittled. It sets the stage for a richer conversation without escalating tensions. You're effectively saying, "I hear you, but there's more to this story." This subtle nudge can remind them that knowledge is multifaceted. It allows you to take back some conversational control without appearing combative. They're more likely to be receptive to your input if it's framed as an exploration rather than a correction. This response can turn a one-sided lecture into a balanced exchange, elevating the quality of the conversation. 6. "I've Never Thought Of It That Way Before." Sometimes, the simplest response can be the most unexpected. When someone is trying to out-smart you, admitting that you haven't considered their point before can throw them off. It shows humility and a willingness to learn, which are powerful traits. This response can make them reconsider their approach, as they might expect you to challenge them. Instead, you catch them off-guard with a candid admission, which can be disarming. This phrase can also serve to redirect the conversation. When you say, "I've never thought of it that way before," you're implying that the conversation is opening new territories for you. It can subtly encourage them to elaborate, shifting the dynamic from adversarial to collaborative. You're demonstrating the ability to take ideas on board without losing your cool. It's a strategic way to keep the conversation open-ended and more about exploring ideas than proving points. 7. "Let's Agree To Explore More On This." When discussions get heated, proposing to explore the subject further can be a neutral ground. It acknowledges the validity of the other person's point while giving you both the chance to delve deeper. Conflict resolution expert Dr. John Gottman has found that suggesting future exploration can defuse tension and open up more productive avenues for dialogue. This approach allows you to step back from a confrontation without backing down. It signals that while you respect their opinion, the conversation isn't over. Using this tactic, you're effectively buying time and creating space for more thoughtful dialogue. It shows that you're not just reacting in the moment but are committed to understanding the subject fully. This can often lead to more respectful exchanges in the future, as both parties know there's more to be uncovered. It reframes the interaction from a battle of wits to a shared journey of discovery. Plus, it sets the stage for future discussions, keeping the conversation alive and ongoing. 8. "Can You Explain That Further For Everyone?" This response turns the tables by inviting the other person to dig deeper into their point. It subtly shifts the pressure back onto them to make sure they're clearly understood. Often, people who try to out-smart others haven't thought through their points as thoroughly as they think. By asking them to explain, you're giving them a chance to reveal any gaps in their knowledge. This tactic can reinforce that you're not intimidated and are willing to engage further. By asking for clarification, you're also encouraging them to include everyone in the discussion. It can shift the tone from competitive to cooperative, as they have to consider how to effectively communicate their ideas. This puts you back in a position of strength, as you remain calm and in control. You're not just passively listening; you're actively participating in the discussion. This can turn the conversation into a more enriching experience for everyone involved. 9. "I Can See Why You'd Think That, But Here's My Viewpoint." Acknowledging someone's logic while still presenting your own perspective can be a powerful way to assert your stance. It shows that you're not dismissing their points outright, but you have your own insights to offer. This kind of mutual recognition can transform a potentially contentious conversation into a more balanced exchange. By validating their thought process, you reduce the likelihood of defensive reactions. It sets the stage for a more constructive dialogue, rather than a debate. This response implies that you're confident enough in your own opinion to share it openly. You're not just passively accepting their argument; you're actively contributing to the discussion. It's a way of saying, "Your opinion matters, but so does mine." By emphasizing your viewpoint, you remind them that you're an informed participant, not just a passive listener. This can elevate the conversation, turning it into a space where different ideas coexist and enrich each other. 10. "That's A Valid Point. What About...?" Affirming someone's point while introducing another consideration can keep the dialogue balanced and open. This shows that you respect their input but also have something worthwhile to add. It's a diplomatic way of saying, "I'm not dismissing you, but let's broaden the conversation." By acknowledging their contribution, you demonstrate emotional intelligence and the ability to engage without clashing. This can encourage them to reciprocate, making the discussion more inclusive and well-rounded. This approach fosters an environment where different perspectives are welcomed and valued. It highlights your ability to incorporate various angles into the conversation. By saying, "What about...?" you're inviting further exploration rather than shutting down their point. This can lead to richer, more nuanced discussions that benefit everyone involved. It's a subtle yet effective way to steer the conversation towards a more collaborative outcome. 11. "That's One Take, But Here's Another Thought." Presenting an alternative thought can quickly shift a conversation from a contest to a collaboration. This shows you're not just going to accept what's being handed to you without question. You're confident enough in your own knowledge to offer another angle. It's a gentle reminder that while their point is valid, it's not the only one. By introducing your own thoughts, you keep the dialogue balanced and engaging. This response encourages a more layered conversation where multiple ideas can be considered. You're not attacking their viewpoint; you're simply adding to it, which can enrich the discussion. It's a way to assert your knowledge without being confrontational. By offering another thought, you demonstrate that you're engaged and ready to contribute meaningfully. This can transform the conversation from a competition to a cooperative exchange. 12. "I Didn't Know That. Thanks For Sharing." Thanking someone for their input can be a surprisingly effective way to manage attempts to out-smart you. This approach can catch them off guard, as they might expect defensiveness or rebuttal. By expressing gratitude, you show that you're open to learning, which can be disarming. It's a simple way to maintain your composure while acknowledging that there's always more to learn. This can diffuse tension and make the conversation more pleasant for everyone involved. This tactic can shift the focus from out-smarting to sharing knowledge. You're effectively saying, "I'm here to learn, not to compete," which can elevate the quality of the dialogue. By showing appreciation, you can subtly remind them that the exchange of ideas is a two-way street. It's a way of maintaining your integrity while also keeping the conversation respectful. This can lead to more meaningful interactions, where both parties feel valued and heard. 13. "Great Insight. How Do You See That Playing Out?" Sometimes, asking someone to apply their theory to real-life scenarios can be quite revealing. It challenges them to think beyond abstract ideas and consider practical implications. This can be a polite way to expose any gaps in their logic or understanding. You're not dismissing their point; you're asking them to take it further, which can be quite challenging. This response subtly shifts the responsibility back to them to substantiate their claims. This approach can turn a theoretical exercise into a practical one, encouraging deeper thinking. It shows that you're not easily swayed by surface-level arguments and want to explore their real-world relevance. By asking how they see it playing out, you're inviting them to think critically, which can enrich the conversation. It's a strategic way to engage without being confrontational. This tactic can make the discussion more dynamic and insightful for everyone involved. Solve the daily Crossword