
Criminal probe launched into Kneecap and Bob Vylan Glastonbury gigs after cops review footage
Police have decided to move their investigation forward after reviewing video and audio recordings from both performances.
A criminal investigation has been launched following the performances of Bob Vylan and Kneecap at Glastonbury Festival police have confirmed.
Avon and Somerset Police said officers had reviewed video footage and audio recordings from the sets at the Somerset festival's West Holts Stage on Saturday, June 28.
The force said the investigation now is underway, with a senior detective appointed to lead.
During Bob Vylan's performance, rapper Bobby Vylan chanted 'death, death to the IDF (Israel Defence Forces)', while a member of Irish rap group Kneecap suggested fans 'start a riot' outside his bandmate's upcoming court appearance.
The BBC has expressed its regret at not pulling the live stream of Bob Vylan's performance, saying the 'antisemitic sentiments' expressed were 'utterly unacceptable'. It will not be available to watch again on BBC iPlayer.
Health Secretary Wes Streeting later branded the footage"appalling".
Kneecap's set was not shown on the BBC due to controversy over the Irish rap group's previous performances. Band member Mo Chara was recently charged with brandishing a flag backing banned militant group Hezbollah at a gig in November 2024.
Their Glastonbury set was filled with expletives and calls to "free Palestine" and "f*** Keir Starmer" but the band pointed out that they did not call for a riot to take place.
Avon and Somerset Police initially said they were monitoring footage from both sets following reports of comments made, to determine whether any criminal offences had been committed.
A force spokesperson later said: 'This has been recorded as a public order incident at this time while our inquiries are at an early stage.
'The investigation will be evidence-led and will closely consider all appropriate legislation, including relating to hate crimes.
'We have received a large amount of contact in relation to these events from people across the world and recognise the strength of public feeling.
'There is absolutely no place in society for hate.'
The force said neighbourhood policing teams were speaking with people in their local communities and key stakeholders, which it hoped would reassure the public 'how seriously we are treating Saturday's events'.
It asked members of the public to stop reporting the matter because an investigation is already taking place.
Christopher Landau, the US deputy secretary of state, said Bob Vylan had been banned from the US ahead of a tour later this year due to their 'hateful tirade at Glastonbury'.
The duo, formed in Ipswich in 2017, have released four albums addressing issues regarding racism, masculinity and class. Bobby Vylan's real name is Pascal Robinson-Foster, 34, according to reports.
In a statement posted to Instagram after the Glastonbury set, Vylan said: 'Teaching our children to speak up for the change they want and need is the only way that we make this world a better place.
'As we grow older and our fire starts to possibly dim under the suffocation of adult life and all its responsibilities, it is incredibly important that we encourage and inspire future generations to pick up the torch that was passed to us.'
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Kneecap have been in the headlines after member Liam Og O hAnnaidh, who performs under the name Mo Chara, was charged with a terror offence.
In reference to his bandmate's upcoming court date, Naoise O Caireallain, who performs under the name Moglai Bap, told Glastonbury they would 'start a riot outside the courts', before clarifying: 'No riots, just love and support, and support for Palestine.'
Before the band had even taken to the stage, Glastonbury bosses were forced to shut the area down as too many people had flocked to see them.

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Criminal investigation launched into Bob Vylan and Kneecap's performances at Glastonbury Festival - as US revokes punk group's visa over 'death chants'
Police have announced a criminal investigation into punk duo Bob Vylan's performance at the Glastonbury Festival. There has been widespread condemnation of the comments made by the group Bob Vylan whose frontman led chants of 'Free Palestine ' and 'Death to the IDF' - while there has also been controversy over Irish rap trio Kneecap's appearance there too. The BBC has been strongly criticised over its various responses following the performance that was broadcast on Saturday, including suggestions it should face charges - while the band this afternoon had their US visas revoked. Avon and Somerset Police have now said: 'Video footage and audio from Bob Vylan and Kneecap's performances at Glastonbury Festival on Saturday has been reviewed. 'Following the completion of that assessment process we have decided further enquiries are required and a criminal investigation is now being undertaken. 'A senior detective has been appointed to lead this investigation. 'This has been recorded as a public order incident at this time while our enquiries are at an early stage. 'The investigation will be evidence-led and will closely consider all appropriate legislation, including relating to hate crimes. 'We have received a large amount of contact in relation to these events from people across the world and recognise the strength of public feeling. 'There is absolutely no place in society for hate. 'Neighbourhood policing teams are speaking with people in their local communities and key stakeholders to make sure anyone who needs us knows that we are here for them. 'We hope the work we have carried out, and are continuing to carry out, reassures the public how seriously we are treating Saturday's events. 'We politely ask the public refrain from continuing to report this matter to us because an investigation is already taking place.' The BBC today admitted it should have cut the broadcast of what it called 'utterly unacceptable' and 'antisemitic' sentiments in Bob Vylan's Glastonbury set. And media watchdog Ofcom told the BBC it was 'very concerned' over Saturday's live broadcast. The new comments came as the punk duo Bob Vylan's frontman known as Bobby Vylan - real name Pascal Robinson-Foster, 34 - earlier doubled down on his 'death to the IDF' chant at Glastonbury. The BBC's latest statement this morning said: 'Millions of people tuned in to enjoy Glastonbury this weekend across the BBC's output but one performance within our live streams included comments that were deeply offensive. 'The BBC respects freedom of expression but stands firmly against incitement to violence. 'The antisemitic sentiments expressed by Bob Vylan were utterly unacceptable and have no place on our airwaves. 'We welcome Glastonbury's condemnation of the performance. 'The performance was part of a live stream of the West Holts stage on BBC iPlayer. The judgement on Saturday to issue a warning on screen while streaming online was in line with our editorial guidelines. 'In addition, we took the decision not to make the performance available on demand. 'The team were dealing with a live situation but with hindsight we should have pulled the stream during the performance. We regret this did not happen. 'In light of this weekend, we will look at our guidance around live events so we can be sure teams are clear on when it is acceptable to keep output on air.' In a House of Commons statement this afternoon, Culture Secretary Lisa Nandy repeated the Government's condemnation of 'appalling and unacceptable' scenes at Glastonbury. She piled pressure on BBC director general Tim Davie to explain why the controversial performance by Bob Vylan was broadcast live, and why the feed had not been immediately cut when chants of 'death to the IDF' began. 'I expect answers to these questions without delay. I have made that view clear to the BBC leadership and I will of course update the House as soon as I can,' Ms Nandy told MPs. The Culture Secretary also revealed she had spoken to members of the Jewish community over the weekend, including those who attended Glastonbury. 'They have raised a number of concerns about imagery and slogans that were on display at the festival this weekend,' she added. 'And I am told this led them to establish their own safe space at the festival. As a Government we take this incredibly seriously. 'We are urgently looking into the specifics of these alarming reports and reaching out to the festival organisers.' Ms Nandy said the Government 'strongly supported' freedom of expression and would defend the right to artistic expression. But she added: 'We do not accept incitement to violence, hate speech, or anti-Semitism is art. 'There is a clear difference between speaking out for Palestine, which is the right of everybody in this House, and everybody in our country, and anti-Semitism which is not, and will never be. 'When the rights and safety of people and communities are at risk, and when our national broadcaster fails to uphold its own standards, we will intervene.' Tory MP Stuart Andrew, the shadow culture secretary, said the events of this weekend made it 'incredibly difficult' for him to remain a 'strong advocate for the BBC'. He urged Ms Nandy to assess whether the BBC's actions could have constituted a breach of public order legislation. Ms Nandy spoke to the corporation's Director General Tim Davie over the weekend and is understood to feel the corporation was 'right' to have 'now acknowledged the live stream should have been pulled'. Now Mr Davie is facing calls to quit if no one loses a job at the corporation over the broadcast of the Bob Vylan set. Israel's deputy foreign minister Sharren Haskel today told the Telegraph's Daily T podcast: 'If there's no one that will take responsibility, if no one will be fired over such an outrageous thing, then I think that Tim Davie should take responsibility because there has to be accountability for that.' Downing Street today said it was 'right' for the BBC to express regret, with a Number 10 spokesman saying: 'We strongly condemn the threatening comments made by Bob Vylan at Glastonbury. 'The Prime Minister has been clear that any performers making threats or inciting violence should not be given a platform.' He later added: 'The BBC needs to explain how these scenes came to be broadcast. It's right that they have now acknowledged the live stream should have been pulled and that they will look at guidance around live events going forward.' An Ofcom spokesperson today kept the corporation in the firing line, with the media watchdog said in a statement: 'We are very concerned about the live stream of this performance, and the BBC clearly has questions to answer. 'We have been speaking to the BBC over the weekend and we are obtaining further information as a matter of urgency, including what procedures were in place to ensure compliance with its own editorial guidelines.' And now US Deputy Secretary of State Christopher Landau said his country had 'revoked the US visas for the members of the Bob Vylan band in light of their hateful tirade at Glastonbury, including leading the crowd in death chants'. He posted on X, formerly Twitter: 'Foreigners who glorify violence and hatred are not welcome visitors to our country.' Critics including the Conservatives ' Shadow Home Secretary Chris Philp have called for action against the BBC. Comparisons have also been made with the 31-month prison sentence handed to Lucy Connolly for inciting racial hatred when posting about burning down a hotel housing asylum seekers. The singer from the band, who officially keeps his identity secret, also declared 'from the river to the sea Palestine will be free'. He has now posted a new statement on Instagram, titled with the defiant phrase: 'I said what I said.' He also told of being 'inundated with messages of both support and hatred'. Robinson-Foster wrote: 'As I lay in bed this morning, my phone buzzing non stop, inundated with messages of both support and hatred, I listen to my daughter typing out loud as she fills out a school survey asking for her feedback on the current state of her school dinners. 'She expressed that she would like healthier meals, more options and dishes inspired by other parts of the world. 'Listening to her voice her opinions on a matter that she cares about and affects her daily, reminds me that we may not be doomed after all. 'Teaching our children to speak up for the change they want and need is the only way that we make this world a better place. 'As we grow older and our fire possibly starts to dim under the suffocation of adult life and all its responsibilities, it is incredibly important that we encourage and inspire future generations to pick up the torch that was passed to us. 'Let us display to them loudly and visibly the right thing to do when we want and need change. 'Let them see us marching in the streets, campaigning on ground level, organising online and shouting about it on any and every stage that we are offered. 'Today it is a change in school dinners, tomorrow it is a change in foreign policy.' The group formed in their hometown of Ipswich in 2017 and have since gone on to release five albums including 2020 debut We Live Here. The singer from the band, who has attempted to keep his identity secret, also declared: 'From the river to the sea Palestine will be free' The frontman has previously spoken of their struggles to get that first album cleared, describing it as being too 'extreme' for some in the music industry. He told the website Louder: 'It was hard to get it released the conventional way - but it was in our power to release it.' Lyrics on their tracks include saying on Britain Makes Me Violent how there is 'nothing great' about Great Britain, while on Reign the frontman declares: 'Got a message for the thieves in the palace, we want the jewels back.' Touching on the subject of housing in London, their song GYAG states: 'Landlord just raised your rent - mate, get yourself a gun.' As well as tackling subjects such as racism, homophobia, capitalism and toxic masculinity, the duo have also made a big deal about the importance of fatherhood. The singer known as Bobby Vylan has said his daughter gave their debut album We Live Here its name and she also featured on the cover of their single Dream Big. Bob Vylan's entire performance on Saturday afternoon at Glastonbury was live-streamed on the BBC iPlayer but it has since been taken down. Nevertheless, the corporation was lambasted for failing to cut the broadcast immediately after the 'anti-Israel' chanting. The live stream continued for another 40 minutes until the end of Bob Vylan's performance. Glastonbury organiser Emily Eavis has described Bob Vylan's chants as having 'very much crossed a line'. She said in a statement: 'We are urgently reminding everyone involved in the production of the festival that there is no place at Glastonbury for antisemitism, hate speech or incitement to violence.' Shadow Home Secretary Chris Philp accused Bob Vylan of 'inciting violence and hatred', saying they should be arrested and prosecuted. And he said of the frontman: 'By broadcasting his vile hatred, the BBC appear to have also broken the law.' Mr Philp posted on X, formerly Twitter: 'I call on the police to urgently investigate and prosecute the BBC as well for broadcasting this. 'Our national broadcaster should not be transmitting hateful material designed to incite violence and conflict.' Toby Young, president of the Free Speech Union, raised the case of childminder Lucy Connolly, who was jailed for tweets she made about deporting asylum seekers and burning down hotels housing them after the Southport killings of three girls at a dance studio. She is currently serving a 31-month sentence. He has responded to the furore with a new statement posted online on Instagram He added: 'She caveated what she said by adding "for all I care", whereas he [Vylan] clearly does care and wants every member of the IDF, which includes virtually the entire population of Israel, to be killed, so the case for prosecuting him is stronger. But to be clear, neither should be prosecuted.' Health Secretary Wes Streeting called the performance a 'pretty shameless publicity stunt', as he suggested the BBC and Glastonbury had 'questions to answer about how we saw such a spectacle on our screens'. And Conservative leader Kemi Badenoch called the scenes 'grotesque', writing on X: 'Glorifying violence against Jews isn't edgy. The West is playing with fire if we allow this sort of behaviour to go unchecked.' Shadow Work and Pensions Secretary Helen Whately said she was 'horrified' and that that the BBC should have cut the feed. She told Times Radio: 'Given the nature of the attacks on Israel, the BBC should not have kept broadcasting that. They should have cut the coverage immediately.' Liberal Democrat culture, media and sport spokesman Max Wilkinson said: 'Bob Vylan's chants at Glastonbury yesterday were appalling. 'Cultural events are always a place for debate, but hate speech, antisemitism and incitements to violence have no place at Glastonbury or anywhere in our society.' Shadow Foreign Secretary Dame Priti Patel wrote in the Daily Mail that the incident was a 'systemic failure', adding: 'What happened at Glastonbury was dangerous. 'Chants calling for the death of Israeli soldiers crossed a line no civilised society should ever tolerate, and it was shameful that the BBC continued with its live broadcast of this incitement to violence. 'The fact the BBC - a national institution - broadcast this hate-fuelled content will risk legitimising and normalising those views in society.' Bob Vylan played Glastonbury on Saturday afternoon right before Irish-language rap group Kneecap, another band that has drawn controversy over its stance on Middle East politics. Kneecap led a huge crowd in chants of 'Free Palestine' at the festival as well as aiming an expletive-laden chant at Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer.


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Telegraph
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- Telegraph
BBC's Glastonbury hate broadcast was ‘chilling violation', say October 7 families
The BBC's broadcast of Bob Vylan's antisemitic hate chants at Glastonbury was a 'chilling violation', a relative of the October 7 victims has said. BBC viewers saw Bobby Vylan, frontman of the rap-punk duo, chant 'death, death to the IDF' and 'from the river to the sea' during his festival set. Many members of the crowd joined in. The corporation added a warning about discriminatory language but did not mute the chants, and left the livestream on iPlayer for another five hours. Stephen Brisley's sister, Lianne Sharabi, and nieces, Noiya, 16, and Yahel, 13, were murdered by Hamas on October 7. His brother-in-law, Eli Sharabi, was recently released from captivity. Mr Brisley told The Telegraph: 'As a British relative of Eli Sharabi - who spent 491 days as a hostage of Hamas - hearing chants of 'death to the IDF' at Glastonbury was shocking and deeply painful. 'To have that broadcast live, unfiltered, into our home by the national broadcaster felt like a chilling violation. 'Intelligent, balanced discussion about this conflict should be welcomed by all sides. However, whatever people's politics, for families like mine, such indiscriminate vitriol acts as a brutal reminder of the murders that shattered our family and left Eli, an innocent civilian, buried in a tunnel for over a year. 'That kind of blanket hatred, shouted at a festival packed with young people and families - not unlike those massacred at Nova on 7 October - would be ironic if it weren't so sickeningly grotesque.' Mr Brisley added: 'At a time when dozens of hostages remain in Gaza and countless innocent Palestinians suffer because of Hamas, that kind of chanting isn't protest, nor it is an expression of solidarity - it is a cruel erasure of grief on both sides, when what's needed now is empathy, humanity and peace.' Liran Berman, whose brothers, Ziv and Gali, are still in captivity, said: 'The BBC again failed in their representation of what is right - and what is wrong. 'The BBC should have stopped broadcasting the moment they heard people shouting 'death to the IDF'. 'The people at Glastonbury should be ashamed of themselves, shouting 'death to the IDF'. At Glastonbury, instead of honouring the dead at the Nova festival and the hostages taken from the Nova festival, they did the complete opposite - supporting the people who killed, butchered and burned them. 'This is not what music festivals should be.' Tim Davie, the BBC director-general, attended Glastonbury on Saturday and was personally consulted over how the corporation should deal with footage of Bob Vylan's set. He directed that it should not be available on-demand, but did not ask for the livestream to be shut off. The BBC has said it regrets the failure to pull the livestream. Mr Davie is now facing calls for his resignation. Mr Berman said: 'I don't think it is for me to decide whether someone should lose their job. 'But the BBC, for the past 21 months since October 7, has apologised more than once or twice for putting out misinformation about Israel and it seems to be an agenda at that point. 'And I think that enough is enough. A slap on the wrist is not acceptable anymore and actions need to be taken. What actions? It's not for me to decide.' Sharone Lifschitz's parents were kidnapped from the Nir Oz kibbutz. Her 85-year-old mother, Yocheved, was later released alive. The body of her father, Oded, 83, was returned in February. 'What happened at Glastonbury is so sad on several levels,' said Ms Lifschitz. 'First, it hurts the feelings of so many people - Jews and non-Jews alike. And it is further eroding trust in the BBC at a time when we need our institutions and public broadcasting to support liberal values and safe, responsible reporting.' She added: 'I welcome the BBC accepting its wrongdoing. I believe in the BBC as an institution and understand how complicated things can be. However, the remarks made were in no way unexpected, and the BBC should have been better prepared to prevent such a moment from being broadcast.' Asked if she had a message for those who were in the Glastonbury crowd watching the performance, Ms Lifschitz said: 'Hate is always the enemy.' On Tuesday, the punk group claimed they are being ' targeted for speaking up '. In a post on Instagram, they added: 'The government doesn't want us to ask why they remain silent in the face of this atrocity? To ask why they aren't doing more to stop the killing? To feed the starving? 'The more time they talk about Bob Vylan, the less time they spend answering for their criminal inaction. 'We are being targeted for speaking up. We are not the first. We will not be the last. And if you care for the sanctity of human life and freedom of speech, we urge you to speak up too. 'Free Palestine.' I count on the IDF to keep my loved ones safe By Sharone Lifschitz What happened at Glastonbury is so sad on several levels. It hurts the feelings of so many people – Jews and non-Jews alike. It rallies people to hate and it further erodes trust in the BBC at a time when we need our institutions and public broadcasting for safe and responsible reporting. I welcome the BBC accepting its wrongdoing. I believe in the BBC as an institution and understand how complicated things can be. However, the remarks made by Bob Vylan were in no way unexpected, and the BBC should have been better prepared to prevent such a message from being so amplified through its own carelessness. As an Israeli watching the BBC, I find the culpability of Hamas in their coverage of the conflict is very often absent, and also of Islamic Jihad – who held my father hostage, knowing that he was injured and ill, until he died. It is as if they are being forgiven. I hold them responsible; they are clever and vicious and have no regard for the life of their people, let alone ours. Israelis are also all portrayed as if we all agree with each other, when, in effect, many Israelis feel they are fighting for the very essence of their country as a democracy. Most people I know have demonstrated at least once a week since this government came into power in January 2023. There are very big disagreements within Israel. The subtleties of the situation aren't there. I wish the BBC, as a public broadcaster, made it possible for the people in the UK to understand this complexity. So much misinformation is being thrown around by fake media outlets, that its responsibility to good reporting is even more paramount in order to actually understand what is happening in the world. Four days after my parents were taken hostage on October 7, and dozens of members of my community were murdered in the cruellest way, I sat at a press conference in London and told my audience that my enemy is hate. I still hold that to be true. I have met many Palestinian people over the years, including since October 7. It isn't always easy to see beyond the hate, beyond the desire for revenge, beyond the voices that allow us to let go of our basic humanity and our understanding of suffering. But it is possible. And it gives me hope and faith in a saner future. We shouldn't give in to the hate. And we should not absolve those in power on both sides of their responsibility to their people. The devastation in Gaza has as much to do with the fanatics of Hamas and Islamic Jihad – who held my father, a frail man of 83, and who still hold 50 hostages in the most horrific conditions – as it does with the likes of Bezalel Smotrich and Itamar Ben-Gvir [the ultra-nationalist Israeli ministers sanctioned by Britain ]. We must do all we can to work towards a future for all our children. And we must remember: our children will learn from our example. As a person who has lost so much to this conflict, and whose heart is in Gaza – with our hostages as well as those suffering in these devastating circumstances – I know that seeing all this devastation must feel infuriating, and that hate can seem inevitable. Hate and fanaticism can feel like a movement forward. But it is just fuelling the fire that has already consumed so much. Seeing Glastonbury succumb to that same hate and fanaticism, instead of promoting our capacity to see our shared humanity across borders and religions, was devastating. For me, hearing chants of 'Death to IDF' was chilling, as it would have been for so many. Being in the IDF is part of Israeli society. The IDF are our children and grandchildren. I disagree with a lot of what the government is making the IDF do at the moment, but I also know that we need them. October 7 showed us what happened when there was no IDF on my kibbutz, and it was horrific. So I count on the IDF to keep my loved ones safe. It is a very complicated situation. And what could possibly be achieved by this hate speech? Hate is always the enemy. And I say that as somebody who has every reason to hate. The level of trauma that I am surrounded by has totally changed my life, changed my ability to function in this world, changed my ability to even be neutral, to be an outsider. And within all that, it's easy to hold on to anger. Some people do it, and you can see that it never, ever actually brings you forward. My heart has broken so many times. And out of that, I want something better. I want something better for the children of my kibbutz. I want something better for the children of my neighbours and for the people in Gaza.