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D.A. Davidson's Luria: Alphabet's other properties are being held back by uncertainty about search

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Gil Luria, D.A. Davidson analyst, joins CNBC's 'Squawk on the Street' to discuss why he's maintaining his neutral rating on Alphabet despite the company's strong quarter, why he's in favor of a company break up, and much more.
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Finance, its TTM FCF represents 2.85% of its market value: $66.728 billion TTM FCF / $2,341 billion mkt cap = 0.0285 This is also the same as multiplying FCF by 35x (i.e., 1/0.0285 = 35.1) So, using this FCF yield metric, and applying to the $60 billion forecast for FCF over the next 12 months: $60.00b x 35.1 = $2,106 billion est. mkt cap That is still 10% below today's market cap of $2,341 billion. In other words, GOOGL stock's price target is 10% lower than today, or $173.86: $193.18 x (1-.10) = $193.18 x 0.90 = $173.86 price target The point is that GOOGL stock may be overvalued. The only way this might turn around is if its OCF margin rises over 36% (even though it was just 28.8% in Q2) and/or the market gives the stock a higher multiple than 35x FCF. Therefore, it might make sense to set a lower buy-in price by selling short out-of-the-money (OTM) put options. That way, an investor can get paid waiting for GOOGL stock to fall. 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