Financial markets weigh up conflict

Australia Broadcast Center

5 days ago

Samantha Donovan: Investment analysts say the Israel-Iran conflict is seeing an uneasy calm on global financial markets. AMP's Shane Oliver helps manage billions of dollars for the superannuation firm AMP. He's told our business correspondent David Taylor that calm could disappear if Iran decides to close the Strait of Hormuz, a critical sea passage for the world's oil supply.
Shane Oliver: The financial markets seem fairly relaxed about things. There was the initial knee-jerk reaction a week or so ago when the news struck that Israel had hit targets in Iran and that Iran was retaliating. So, you saw this initial knee-jerk reaction. Oil prices sort of rose from about $68 a barrel to $74 or thereabouts. Share markets came down a bit. Ever since then, they've sort of been treading water waiting to see what happens. Of course, at the back of everyone's mind, there's always this fear that we're going to see a rerun of what happened in 1973 or 1979. But most of the time, that doesn't happen. This time around, though, there's probably a bit more nervousness simply because Iran has potentially getting closer to nuclear capability, nuclear weapons capability, and of course, Israel is determined to wipe that out. So that's why the situation is a lot more tense this time around. But I think investors are still thinking, well, maybe it'll turn out OK and be a non-event.
David Taylor: When Donald Trump says via the White House press secretary that he's simply going to make it as he wants an extension for two weeks, he's going to make a decision within two weeks or at the end of two weeks, you're the ANP's strategist for a lot of money, a lot of investments. When you hear something like that, what's your thought? Is your thought that he's stalling or is your thought that markets simply just have to wait day by day as to what's going to happen next?
Shane Oliver: Yeah, I guess his eyes done a very good job in terms of Iran, got the situation to a point where they can almost wipe out Iran's nuclear capability. And so maybe he should take that point. On the other hand, he worries that it could just lead to a worse situation, retaliation by Iran against shipping through the Strait of Hormuz, through which 20 per cent of global oil supplies flow on a daily basis, and that it might bog the US down in a longer-term conflict. So the fact that he's thinking about it, I think, is a good sign. By the same token, it may just be giving more time for Iran to come to the party and surrender unconditionally. So it could be about that. Or alternatively, it could just be giving more time for the Israelis and the US to prepare the situation to go into trying to take these strikes. But the fact that it's not happening rashly, I think, is a good thing that he is thinking about it. So that gives me a little bit of comfort. And that's, I think, why share markets have ended the week, at least in the Australian time zone, reasonably in a reasonably calm mode. You haven't seen this sort of freefall that might have occurred if we'd gotten up in the morning and found that the US had struck Iran.
David Taylor: But I guess that's a possibility still.
Shane Oliver: It's still out there. It's still a possibility. I mean, the best outcome for everyone is Iran comes to the table and says, yeah, we're going to negotiate. We'll give you clear access to inspect nuclear facilities to make sure that we're not building nuclear weapons. That's probably the best outcome for everyone. The situation in the Middle East settles down. Oil prices fall back to where they were a few weeks back. And we move on to the next thing, back to focusing on tariffs. But it looks like we could be in for a period of uncertainty regarding this, not only whether the US will act, but when they do, how Iran then responds. And this could take some time before it's finally resolved. And then if Iran does respond and disrupt shipping, they don't have to block the whole of the Strait of Hormuz. They just have to provide enough of a threat to stop shipping going through there. Then how long it takes for the Americans to clear the situation again and remove the threat. And all of that could take quite a while.
Samantha Donovan: That's AMP's Head of Investment Strategy, Shane Oliver. He was speaking with our business correspondent, David Taylor.