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Jaiprakash Toshniwal sees value in 3 segments; goes contra on IT & specialized capital goods

Economic Times5 days ago
Jaiprakash Toshniwal, Fund Manager, LIC Mutual Fund Asset, says certain sectors currently offer better earning growth than nominal GDP growth. Pharma and chemical sectors, especially specialty chemicals, show positive valuation and growth. IT and specialized capital goods segments on the other hand, present contra call opportunities. These sectors are expected to yield value from a medium to long-term perspective. Investment houses are considering funds focused on IT and capital goods.
ADVERTISEMENT Since you are a fund manager, let us begin by looking at value in the markets right now. What is your strategy on the value front? How does the marketplace seem in terms of value- based sectors?
Jaiprakash Toshniwal: In terms of value in the market, currently there are certain pockets of the sectors where the earning growth is much higher than the nominal GDP growth and that is where the valuations are reasonable in terms of growth. In some of these sectors like pharma and chemical, we are very positive in terms of valuation and we are also seeing growth, especially in specialty chemicals. So, these are the three sectors where I see value emerging from a medium to long-term perspective.
What is your perspective on tariff concerns? August 7 is the new deadline. In that context, how should one bet in the market?
Jaiprakash Toshniwal: Yes, on the tariff side, August 7 is a deadline and what we have seen in terms of this 25% tariff is already there now but a large part of the tariff, almost 40% is basically India export to the US through specialised electronics as well as pharmaceuticals where no tariff has been announced yet.
So, to that extent, the concern simmers down. Having said that, some of the exposures which are very much focused on US exports are basically gems and jewellery and textiles. Those are the most impacted sectors and at this point of time, when we see the numbers compared to the other south Asian countries, the tariff in India is very high. So, to that extent, there would be an impact on the market opportunity for Indian companies in these two sectors.
If someone is willing to park funds and build a portfolio, what should be the strategy at this point in time? Which sectors will be insulated from the news events which will come later and at the same time, what is your view on the specialty chemical space and how are you eyeing the earning season because the first half of the earning season was weak, but the second half is still giving us a few hopes?
Jaiprakash Toshniwal: It is very hard to say where to allocate and where not to allocate now because February and April onwards the world order has been very different in terms of war and different terms of tariffs. At this point of time it is okay to say that a diversified portfolio is a good approach for investors in India and historically also, we have seen that our earnings growth is in line with the nominal GDP growth rate and investors have made a reasonable amount of wealth from investing in a diversified portfolio approach. Having said that, going ahead, we are seeing that on the earning side, the nominal GDP deflator is lower because of lower inflation. The nominal GDP is settling at 9% level and in Q1 also, whatever numbers we have seen on the headline indices, is between 6% and 8% depending on which indices you take. So, to sum it up, earning growth is reasonable across sectors if you want to focus on the medium-term, one should probably avoid auto and auto ancillaries but there is a certain value emerging in pharma, specialty chemicals and capital market companies. All these segments look good. The agrochemical sector looks good because that sector is now coming out of the cyclical bottom of the last two years.
ADVERTISEMENT All these sectors look interesting at this point of time and as a portfolio manager of an investment house, we are all positive on these few sectors which I mentioned. Specialty chemicals is a very specialised segment and there the companies have to be evaluated on a company specific and chemical side specific manner. I want to highlight one data point that for most specialty chemical companies, the balance sheet became so strong in the last four-five years, that they can invest almost Rs 1,000 crore capex on a cumulative basis on a specific name. This Rs 1,000 crore is a very reasonable number to expand capacity and to cater to the market globally and not only the US market. So far we are talking about long-term strategies. But if someone wants to make the most out of this volatility, is there any contrarian bet that you are focusing on or is there any specific concentration in any theme or sector or type of companies?
Jaiprakash Toshniwal: Two sectors to stand out if one has to take contra call. We as a house are also taking in some of the funds which are predominantly in the IT sector as well as the capital goods or a specialised capital goods segment. IT sector valuations are very reasonable. We are worried about the earnings growth but the Q1 numbers show that most of these companies made deal wins recently. As the macro turnout happens in the US, at least on the US side, the BFSI segment is doing good as well as the high-tech and healthcare segments.
ADVERTISEMENT The other manufacturing segment is not that great. Once that picks up and there is a macro tailwind story in the US, the IT sector should do well and in IT, the sub-segment ER&D segment also has a reasonable green shoot because of the EU and US deal because most of our IT R&D companies are exposed to European auto OEMs and as European relationship improves in terms of the tariff side, we see auto OEMs started spending in the Europe market and that is a positive for ER&D space. In the specialised capital goods segment, we believe India in terms of power sector is a very long-term story and there are a lot of good, niche players available in the power equipment industry and that is where we are positive on.
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