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Watch CNBC's full interview with Pickering Energy Partners' founder Dan Pickering

Watch CNBC's full interview with Pickering Energy Partners' founder Dan Pickering

CNBC07-07-2025
CNBC's "Power Lunch" team is joined by with Dan Pickering, founder and CIO of Pickering Energy Partners, to discuss the threat of tariffs on oil and energy, the potential impact on costs and more.
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