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Jurien Bay residents afraid of what could happen next with frequent Telstra outages

Jurien Bay residents afraid of what could happen next with frequent Telstra outages

Michael Cockburn found himself unable to call emergency services when a neighbour's shed burst into flames in May.
He said the blaze had first been extinguished by firefighters earlier in the evening, but after midnight his wife saw it had reignited.
"She screamed out to me that the shed was on fire again. As I've gone out the backyard, there was just a red glow," Mr Cockburn said.
Mr Cockburn said he tried to call triple-0 four times in vain.
"[The call] would go through to the call centre and after about five or six seconds it would just drop out."
He said he had the same issues when trying to make a call to a friend who "made the assumption" the structure had reignited.
Firefighters arrived about an hour later.
Mr Cockburn said he and the elderly property owner used hoses to try to keep the flames from spreading to a nearby shed which held batteries and fuel.
"There was a good chance that would have exploded," he said.
Firefighters eventually stopped the blaze but the shed was destroyed and there was significant damage to his neighbour's house.
Mr Cockburn said the poor mobile coverage caused a dangerous delay and the service was still unacceptable weeks later.
He is one of many residents of Jurien Bay, about 200 kilometres north of Perth, who say phone services are so unreliable they could be life threatening.
Telstra initially told the ABC there was only one recent fault, in June, but after more questions they said further investigations found an "intermittent fault" which "reduced mobile performance for some customers".
"We're sorry for the stress this has caused. It's a complex fault and we're working with our software vendor and technicians to identify the root cause of the issue as a matter of urgency," a spokesperson said.
Dandaragan shire president Tony O'Gorman said coverage issues had been happening for about three months.
"It's almost impossible to make a phone call in and around Jurien Bay without the phone dropping out," he said.
The council had been lobbying Telstra on behalf of residents, he added.
"But they're paying as much attention to us [the council] as they do any other citizen, which is just about zero."
Mr O'Gorman encouraged locals to lodge a complaint with Telstra and escalate it with the telecommunications ombudsman.
Shire of Dandaragan emergency services coordinator Will Miller said every minute in an emergency mattered, and there had been multiple incidents in which telco issues had occurred.
"As soon as you've got life and property involved, it's amazing how much we do rely on our telephone networks these days," Mr Miller said.
He said response teams and volunteers were encouraged to sign up with multiple telco providers in the hopes at least one would provide a signal in an emergency.
Mr Miller said the backup plan added extra costs but was a good placeholder until there was a long-term fix.
"We could be waiting for solutions for quite some time," he said.
Jurien Bay's Community Resource Centre recorded at least 25 people who had been affected by unreliable mobile coverage.
"But we know through social media there's lots more people affected by it," manager Sue Campbell said.
The lack of coverage affected daily life, she said, with many government and banking services using two-factor authentication which required a phone call or text to work.
Ms Campbell said in one situation a client had applied for an income support payment but could not do the necessary phone interview.
"The day of the interview he was sitting waiting for the call and it never arrived," she said.
The same issue happened again twice, leaving the client without an income for about six weeks, Ms Campbell said.
"It's very distressing for them. It badly affects their mental health," she said.
Ms Campbell said the centre's staff were planning on lobbying local MP Shane Love over the issue and also encouraged people to lodge a complaint with the telecommunications ombudsman.
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Josipa Now, let's do some good for our English and learn the phrases from the dialogue. Let's listen again to how Alan asked Claire for a donation. Allan I'm running a charity cake stall this Friday to raise money for a children's hospital. It's part of a community fundraiser I've joined. Allan Would you be open to making a small donation Josipa Before asking for money, Alan explained what the fundraiser was for by saying, Allan I'm running a charity cake stall this Friday to raise money for a children's hospital. Josipa If you are running something, it means you're organizing it, looking after it, or making sure it happens. Josipa Alan is running a charity cake stall, but you can run other things too. For example, if you are running a business, that means you are managing or owning it. Josipa Allan then said, Allan It's part of a community fundraiser I've joined. Josipa A fundraiser is an event or activity that helps collect money to help others, and the community fundraiser is when people in a neighbourhood, school, or local group work together to raise money for something important. Josipa After saying what the money is for, the reason for the fundraiser. Josipa Alan asked Claire. Allan Would you be open to making a small donation? Josipa This is a polite way not to direct or pushy, to ask someone if they're willing to give a little money to help. Would you be open to? It's the same as saying, are you OK with, or would you say yes to? Josipa And making a small donation means giving a small amount to help. Josipa For example, I often make a small donation by giving away clothes that I don't need. I hope that my donations make life a little easier for someone in need. Josipa Now let's hear a few more ways in which we can ask for donations. Claire I've got a little fundraiser going. Any chance you'd like to help? 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When we ask someone for a coin or two, we are asking for a small amount of money. We also often use the phrase a gold coin donation. Josipa This means that you don't have to give a large amount like a $5 or $10 note. Josipa And to spare means extra. So if you have some money to spare, that means that you can give, donate a little without causing any problems. Allan said the money he is raising will go straight to a good cause. Josipa A good cause is a project or group that helps people or animals who need support, like a charity or community group. For me, running 10 kilometres will be hard, but, but I believe it will be worth it to support a good cause. Alan also said. Allan Every bit counts. Josipa This means that even a small amount is helpful. Josipa You could also say, Claire A little help goes a long way. Josipa Or if you want to sound more formal, you could say. Allan We appreciate any support you can give. Josipa You know what? After hearing all the great examples Allan and Claire shared in this episode, I feel ready to help my friend make a difference. So why don't you listen to their dialogue one more time while I make some phone calls to ask for donations for my friend's charity appeal. Allan Hey Claire, do you have a minute? Sure, what's up? I'm running a charity cake stall this Friday to raise money for a children's hospital. It's part of the community fundraiser I've joined. Would you be open to making a small donation? Claire Oh, that sounds lovely, Alan, but I've already donated to another charity appeal this week. Sorry. Allan Totally understand, no pressure at all. But if you've got a coin or two to spare, it'll go straight to a good cause. Allan Every bit counts and hey, I'll save you the best cupcake. Claire Alright, you got me. I can't say no to a cupcake. Josipa Hello. We're from SBS. Learn English. I'm. 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So when they come through our doors, we know that it has taken them a lot to get there. Josipa And what kind of help do you give to women who are leaving family violence or have no safe place to live? Sunila Years ago when women visiting us to seek support, they begged to sleep at our office just to stay safe. That's when we knew that we had to do more. So we opened our own crisis accommodation in 2016, a shelter specifically for migrant women on temporary visas. Sunila We now run 2 crisis accommodations, accommodating 12 single women at any time. Sunila Each woman can stay for up to 6 months while we support them through every step of rebuilding their lives. We provide culturally appropriate support from a caseworker, a counselor. Sunila We provide them groceries, food vouchers, transport cards, and emotional support. We run programs to improve their mental and physical health, such as self-care, gardening, self-defense, and more. 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That might mean teaching English, basic computer skills, helping in our garden, or helping us organize one of our 5 annual women's picnics. Josipa And if one wants to join you, try to become a volunteer in your organization where they can find information. Sunila We have a website All the information about the volunteers is available there. Josipa Thank you, Sunila for this interview. Josipa Let's now practice different ways we can ask for donations. Just repeat after Alan and Claire. Claire Would you be open to making a small donation? Allan We appreciate any support you can give. Claire Any help you can give would mean a lot. Allan If you've got a coin or two to spare, it'll go straight to a good cause. Josipa If you'd like to practice your speaking skills, and I really recommend it, listen to our bonus episode. It's short, fun, and great for speaking practice. Practicing out loud really helped me. It gave me confidence to speak to people in English. 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