logo
How the longtime ‘Severance' cinematographer wound up directing Season 2's standout episode

How the longtime ‘Severance' cinematographer wound up directing Season 2's standout episode

Yahooa day ago

As Severance has refined its wintry, corporate aesthetic over the course of two seasons, one woman in particular has been central to crafting the show's look. Jessica Lee Gagné has worked as cinematographer on most of the show's episodes so far, continuing her collaboration with director Ben Stiller from the 2018 miniseries Escape at Dannemora. Mark Chernus, who plays Ricken on Severance, recently told Gold Derby of Gagné that 'her eye, her lens, is the look of the show.' But towards the end of the most recent season, Gagné finally made her directorial debut — and created one of the show's standout episodes in the process.
'I definitely had a lot of doubts going into it. I've doubted myself for a long time,' Gagné tells Gold Derby of taking the step towards directing. 'But then it seemed so obvious that this episode was meant for me to direct, just because of the themes and the possibility of style and language that it could have, and also what the writer wanted from it. So I was like, 'Well, if anyone's going to do this, I have to do it.''
More from GoldDerby
Justine Lupe on the unexpected chemistries that power Netflix's 'Nobody Wants This'
'What We Do in the Shadows' cast on alternate series finale endings and the parody that didn't work
Catalina Sandino Moreno on 'From' fan theories: 'Whenever you think that you're in the right lane, you're not'
'Chikhai Bardo,' the seventh episode of Season 2, breaks from Severance's usual format by focusing on the character of Gemma (Dichen Lachman). Gemma's shadow looms large over the show, since her supposed 'death' is the reason that Mark Scout (Adam Scott) volunteered for a job on the severed floor of Lumon Industries in the first place. Back in Season 1, viewers met her own Lumon 'innie' persona, Ms. Casey. But 'Chikhai Bardo' actually introduced everyone to Gemma herself for the first time, both in flashbacks to her relationship with Mark before her disappearance and in present-day scenes showing her being experimented upon as a prisoner on Lumon's testing floor.
Through the flashbacks, viewers see how Gemma's struggles with getting pregnant pushed her towards Lumon (who apparently own and operate fertility clinics among their many mysterious business holdings). Gagné felt a strong connection to this material.
'I feel like one thing that helped me direct and work with actors in this capacity for the first time is my own life experience with my career and how I've gotten where I've gotten,' Gagné says. 'I got to have access to amazing projects at quite a young age. I really lost myself within my work for a long time. So going into my 30s, I went through a big questioning phase of, 'OK, I need to find my partner, freeze my eggs, do all of these things … or did I miss out on that part of life?''
Gagné adds, 'I felt like those everyday moments, those everyday conversations, are things that I've felt and lived. So it hit really close to home in that sense.'
Bringing this perspective to the director's chair was a big help to Lachman, who in addition to portraying Gemma's fertility struggles also had to do something that no other Severance actor has had to do yet: Portray multiple 'innies.'
'When I found out she was directing that episode, I was very excited,' Lachman says. 'I think she's an extraordinary talent, and I love her vision. I love her creativity, and I love how flexible she is in terms of doing whatever she has to do to capture the moment. And I thought it was really nice to have a female director for that episode.'
Most Lumon employees have two personas: The 'outie' that exists outside of work, and the 'innie' they become when they take the elevator to their office on the severed floor. But on the testing floor, Gemma becomes a different 'innie' with every room she enters. This revelation has greatly expanded the possibilities of what can happen within the world of Severance.
'I was terrified because it's an expansion of the idea. It's a new iteration of the concept of the show. And I was like, 'Can the show sustain this?'' Severance creator Dan Erickson tells Gold Derby. 'I love the idea in my head, but you always wonder, 'Is it going to play? Is it going to come across?' What I knew we had was this amazing secret weapon in Dichen. Not that she was a secret, but I knew that she was going to be able to play each of these versions of the character so strangely and tenderly and differently, and she just knocked it out of the park. She nailed it. And then of course Jessica Lee Gagné, who directed that episode, is one of the most brilliant people on the planet. Even with all of us knowing how good she was, she managed to surpass those expectations.'
Each of the rooms Gemma is forced into seemingly represent a different unpleasant life experience. One of her 'innies' only goes through dentist appointments, for example, while another has to endlessly write out Christmas thank-you cards. Making all of these selves feel real with limited screentime was the episode's main challenge for both Lachman and Gagné — but thankfully they both made each other feel comfortable in their collaboration.
'Dichen's openness to exploration on set and trying different things made it a lot easier for me, working with actors like this for the first time. She wasn't afraid of doing anything or trying anything. There were some moments that we were just exploring and trying stuff,' Gagné says. 'Like I said, I have a lot of personal experience with these kinds of themes. So I just wanted to really anchor them in reality with her as much as possible. So we had lots of conversations, personal conversations, to see what we could touch on. This very female way of hiding parts of ourselves and not fully showing what we feel in order to put other people first, was always a thing we'd come back to. We had many conversations and we moved through it together.'
Gagné didn't make things easy for herself. In addition to directing 'Chikhai Bardo,' she still worked as cinematographer on five other episodes in Season 2. But she thinks this amount of work made it easier for her to push through without getting caught up in her own doubts.
'I think that's what really pushed me through. I would be shooting Episode 10 and then prepping Episode 7 at the same time. It was like I had two or three full-time jobs. I lived and breathed Severance for sure.
The main difference between cinematographer and director, Gagné found, is how many more questions you have to answer as the latter.
'The prep work is much more laborious and you are answering 3 million questions. I wasn't used to that as a cinematographer,' she says. 'As a DP I'm very involved in terms of set design and these kinds of things, I'm that kind of cinematographer who really gets in there, but I don't get to take over any of the smaller details. So for me, those meetings with the props department and the costume department, when we were researching all of these new things, that was just joy. I was like a kid in the candy store. To get to direct for the first time on Severance was a pretty luxurious first-time directing experience, and I felt like I needed to live up to it. So I gave it everything I had.'
The results of her hard work speak for themselves; the episode astounded viewers and set pieces in place for the epic season finale. Not everyone was surprised by this.
'That was not surprising to me because we've been working together for a while and I know how talented she is,' Stiller tells Gold Derby. 'I thought it was really important that that episode had a female point of view. Jessica is just so talented and really is interested thematically in a lot of the ideas that are in that episode, in terms of how we connect with each other, and how people who have some sort of spiritual connection are linked in different ways. What she did with it visually was just so impressive. It's great to watch her do her thing.'
Now that Gagné has gone from cinematographer to director, she's ready to start working on her first feature film. She 'leaves some really big shoes to fill' as Severance's go-to DP, according to Patricia Arquette, but also everyone's excited to see what Gagné does next.
'When you're putting your name on something like that and saying that you approved it, you have to be quite vulnerable. You're opening yourself up to criticism, and I have to admit, I was really afraid of that,' she says. 'But after seeing that it went so well, I think I needed that to help push me forward in the rest of my career.'
Gagné isn't yet ready to share many details about her plans, but says, 'We're in the beginning stages, but I'm giving it my heart. It's going to be a personal one, and it's very different from Severance.'
Best of GoldDerby
Chloë Sevigny on Kitty Menendez and 'Monsters' fascination: 'People are endlessly curious about those who have privilege and abuse it'
Jason Isaacs relives filming 'The White Lotus' piña colada scene: 'It was one of the reasons I was worried about taking the job'
Kaitlyn Dever on playing 'horrible' characters in 'Last of Us', 'Apple Cider Vinegar': 'I just don't see any other option but to give 100 percent'
Click here to read the full article.

Orange background

Try Our AI Features

Explore what Daily8 AI can do for you:

Comments

No comments yet...

Related Articles

‘Ginny & Georgia' Season 2 Recap: What To Remember Ahead Of Season 2
‘Ginny & Georgia' Season 2 Recap: What To Remember Ahead Of Season 2

Yahoo

time4 hours ago

  • Yahoo

‘Ginny & Georgia' Season 2 Recap: What To Remember Ahead Of Season 2

Trigger Warning: The below contains mention of self harm. One of Netflix's biggest YA shows Ginny & Georgia is about to return with a third season, and while Season 3 is sure to be wild, Season 2 set the stage for that. More from Deadline 'Ginny & Georgia' Season 3: Everything We Know So Far 'It's All About Perception' In 'Ginny & Georgia' Season 3 Teaser Trailer Everything We Know About 'Nobody Wants This' Season 2 So Far It's been over two years since Season 2 hit Netflix in January 2023, so some details might be fuzzy. The ensemble cast between seasons will remain largely the same, with a few newcomers in the world of wealthy Wellsbury, where Georgia (Brianne Howey) has moved her children Ginny (Antonia Gentry) and Austin (Diesel La Torraca) for their latest chapter of life. Find a full recap of everything to remember from Ginny & Georgia Season 2 below: Georgia Smothered Tom Fuller, And Austin Watched Her Do It Arguably the biggest plot point to remember going into Season 2 is that Georgia did kill Tom Fuller, husband of Cynthia Fuller (Sabrina Grdevich). He was on hospice in a downstairs office in the Fuller home with only little time left to live. One night, when she was picking up Austin from a playdate with Cynthia's son Zach (Connor Laidman), Georgia sat down with Cynthia, who voiced how hard it was watching Tom hold on. She also said how she hoped he knew he could let go. Austin and Zach were playing a game of hide and seek, and Austin had chosen the closet in Tom's hospice room for his hiding spot. He then saw his mom come into the room and smother Tom with a pillow before running out to Cynthia crying 'I think it's time!' Georgia Married Mayor Paul Randolph, And Got Arrested During the Reception Georgia's wedding to Paul Randolph (Scott Porter), whose heart she captured in Season 1 of the show, faced several road bumps because at one point, she cancelled the ceremony at The Mount, a prestigious Edith Wharton estate, since she wasn't sure Paul would still want to marry her. More on this later, but she basically had to come clean about her full past, which is not all squeaky clean, to the Wellsbury mayor, who took a night to sleep on it. Unfortunately, after a beautiful ceremony complete with Joe's white horse Milkshake, an old friend of Georgia's, pulling her to city hall in a carriage and her walk down the aisle in a fluffy light blue Cindarella-esque ball gown, P.I. Gabriel Cordova (Alex Mallari Jr.), who had been embedding himself in Wellsbury under the disguise of an English teacher to date Paul's campaign advisor Nick (Dan Beirne), arrested Georgia for the murder of Tom Fuller. The finale ended in a heartrending scene of Georgia being driven away in a cop car as Austin chased after her crying. Most of the town was in attendance at the wedding to witness this turn of events. Ginny & Marcus Broke Up Both Ginny and Marcus Baker (Felix Mallard) both went through it last season in terms of their mental health, with Ginny self-harming by burning with a lighter and Marcus experiencing the onset of a depressive episode. The pair tried to be there for each other, but between Marcus' depression — narrated in an expertly written episode by Mallard himself — and the chaos with Ginny's mom, they had a miscommunication moment during the high school musical — Wellington — during which Ginny told Marcus to tell her he didn't want to be with her after she overheard him expressing how he wasn't sure he should be with Ginny to his twin sister Maxine (Sara Waisglass). Marcus seemed apathetic to the situation, but only because the depression was sucking away any feeling for him, and he didn't chase after Ginny when she ran away crying down the hallway. Max did tell Ginny that Marcus was depressed and that she and their parents were worried about him, so Ginny showed up as a friend for him in the end. Ginny's Self-Harm The end of Season 1 saw Ginny run away with Austin from their mother to her father Zion's (Nathan Mitchell) place in Boston after she realized that Georgia poisoned her ex-husband Kenny (Darryl Scheelar) with a blue flower. At Zion's she was self-harming with a lighter by burning her inner thighs, and after a few moments with this and seeming outbursts that were really cries to help to her dad, he put her in therapy with Dr. Lily (Zarrin Darnell-Martin) without Georgia knowing. Georgia did later find out that Ginny was burning herself after Marcus returned Ginny's therapy notebook, painted on the cover, as a Christmas present, and she left it lying in her bag in the hallway. Georgia then attended a therapy session with Ginny, which was entertaining, interesting because Georgia is not used to expressing her feelings or holding space for her daughter, and ultimately productive for both parties. Gil Came to Town Austin's father Gil Timmons (Aaron Ashmore) re-entered the picture in Season 2 as well, first showing up to Austin's school and performing his signature magic tricks before revealing to Georgia that he was around. As shown in the flashbacks with Georgia portrayed by Nikki Roumel, Gil (played by Ben Steele Caldwel) became violent toward her even after she got pregnant with his child. Georgia framed Gil for embezzlement once she realized that he was already doing that, and she escaped from him with both kids, but once he tracked them down after he got out of jail on parole, he antagonized Georgia once more. He even went as far as to try and get an apartment in town to 'be closer to his son,' but once Cynthia, who at first was helping him, saw him grab Georgia aggressively at Austin's school, she blocked his housing application out of solidarity with Georgia. This next part fills in the details of what prompted Georgia to come clean to Paul. One night, Gil came over to Georgia's house to threaten her over his blocked housing application. Austin, coming to his mother's defense, pulled out a gun that she had hidden under her dresser, and shot his dad in the arm. The Bakers heard it across the street, but no police were called. Georgia stitched up Gil's arm, and Ginny cleaned up the blood with bleach. Austin drew an adorable picture of a family of four (him, Ginny, Georgia and Paul) to hang over the bullet hole in the wall in the kitchen. Georgia knew that telling Paul this would make him mad for a few reasons, one being that he had already discovered a gun she was hiding under a different credenza downstairs, and after getting upset with Georgia about it because he passed legislation to prevent gun ownership in homes in Wellsbury, he asked her if she had any more in the house. She told him no. Wellington, The School Musical 'Wellington' was the school musical for theater kids like Max, Bracia (Tameka Griffiths), Marcus' friend Silver (Katelyn Wells), who designs the costumes and Bryon (Agape Mngomezulu). Max played the witch, and Bracia played the main star in the musical, which mimics Bridgerton in a way. And Bracia found out that Escape Room Bryon returned her crush after he told her that she was the reason he did the play. Abby Developed an Eating Disorder After overhearing their friend Samantha (Romi Shraiter) throwing up in the bathroom in Brodie's (Tyssen Smith) basement where they often hang out, drink and party, it seems that this influences her to start doing so as well in a manner commonly associated with bulimia. During a hook up scene with Matt Press (Damian Romeo), he notices that Abby also tapes her legs. None of MANG, the friend group acronym for Max, Abby, Nora and Ginny notice that Abby develops these habits. Zion Started Dating Simone Ginny's father Zion also had a new love interest enter the picture last season, Simone (Vinessa Antoine), a Harvard law graduate who is a defense attorney. Ginny asked her dad if he loves Simone, and she could tell that he does. One day while Christmas shopping with Georgia, Ginny's mother decides to stop by Zion's 'bachelor pad' when Simone happens to be over, and the run-in is a bit awkward because that was Georgia's first time learning about Simone. She tried to tell Ginny that 'when daddy has a new girlfriend, we tell mommy,' but Ginny set her boundary and asked her mom not to put her daughter in the middle. Joe Slept with Cynthia Last, but certainly not least, Joe (Raymond Ablack), owner of Blue Farm where Ginny works and many Wellsbury locals often hang out, slept with Cynthia last season. He had been helping her out during Tom's hospice by cooking them food and just checking in on her whenever she was at his restaurant, and one thing led to another with the pair having sex in Blue Farm. Nothing came of it afterwards, though Cynthia said they both got something they needed out of what happened, and they stayed friendly after. Joe also let Ginny use Blue Farm for Georgia's bachelorette party, and she left her Ray-Ban sunglasses there. He went to return them, and their chemistry and tension was palpable. Fans will recall a scene where a much younger Georgia encountered Joe, took those sunglasses from him and left. Everything comes full circle when he gives them back, and the pair realizes they both remember their encounter. RELATED: Best of Deadline 'The Real Housewives Ultimate Girl's Trip: RHONY Legacy' Photo Gallery

Everything to Know About ‘The Last of Us' Season 3
Everything to Know About ‘The Last of Us' Season 3

Yahoo

time16 hours ago

  • Yahoo

Everything to Know About ‘The Last of Us' Season 3

The Last of Us, HBO's post-apocalyptic drama based on the PlayStation video game series of the same name, will return for a third season of mushroom monsters and character-driven storytelling. Like Season 2, Season 3 will be based on the game The Last of Us Part II, and tell the story from the perspective of Abby (Kaitlyn Dever), the traumatized soldier who (spoiler alert) tortured and killed Joel (Pedro Pascal) in front of his adopted daughter Ellie (Bella Ramsey) early in Season 2. Abby is a playable character in the game, so the shift in perspective is an established part of the story, and an important element in establishing its themes of empathy and forgiveness. While we wait for news about Season 3, which could take a long while to produce, here's what we know about The Last of Us Season 3 so far, including cast, story, and potential premiere date. More from GoldDerby Jay Duplass on exposing his 'dad bod' and playing a 'soft villain' in 'Dying for Sex': 'Easily one of my biggest acting challenges' 5 slots isn't enough: More limited series deserve a chance to compete with 'Adolescence' Laugh tracks: The state of the 2025 Emmy comedy race The Last of Us was officially renewed for Season 3 in April 2025, shortly before the Season 2 premiere. There was a more than two-year gap between Seasons 1 and 2, and while the gap between Seasons 2 and 3 is likely to be shorter — the delay was partially due to the 2023 writers' and actors' strikes — it's still going to be long. It's rare for productions as large and visual effects-intensive as The Last of Us to take less than 18 months between seasons. Meanwhile, showrunners Craig Mazin and Neil Druckmann and executive producer Halley Gross are still in the process of writing Season 3, and no start-of-filming date has been announced, let alone a premiere date. It's unclear if Season 3 will be the final season, but whether it is or not, the producers hope to get it out into the world in a reasonable amount of time. 'It feels like we've got one or two more seasons,' Mazin told Variety ahead of the Season 2 premiere. 'It's getting harder to make, because every episode gets big. You don't want to wait four years for a 17-episode finish, or whatever it is.' Season 2 picks up about five years after the end of Season 1, when Joel massacred a hospital full of people in order to save Ellie, who is immune from the cordyceps infection that decimated humanity, from being killed so doctors could study her blood in order to find a cure. Ellie and Joel have found a home in the community of Jackson, Wyo., but their relationship has become strained because Joel lied to Ellie about what he did to save her. Ellie would like to forgive him, but doesn't know if she can. One day, during a simultaneous infected attack on Jackson, Abby, who is the daughter of the doctor Joel killed as he was about to operate on Ellie, and her crew of followers reach Jackson and capture Joel, Ellie, and Ellie's friend Dina (Isabela Merced). Abby kills Joel, and Ellie vows to get revenge (or justice, which is how she thinks of it) as Abby and her people leave. Ellie and Dina set out on a mission to find Abby, during the course of which they become a couple, Ellie reveals she's immune, and Dina reveals that she's pregnant. They track Abby to Seattle, where the paramilitary organization she's part of, the WLF, is involved in an ongoing conflict with a group of religious fanatics called the Seraphites. Ellie finds a member of Abby's group, Nora (Tati Gabrielle), and tortures her for Abby's whereabouts. Ellie ends up killing two more of Abby's friends, Owen (Spencer Lord) and Mel (Ariela Barer), the latter of whom was pregnant, before Abby finds her and Jesse (Young Mazino), the father of Dina's baby who has come from Jackson to help them. She kills Jesse, and as she's holding Ellie at gunpoint, we hear a shot ring out but don't see what happens. We then flash back to three days earlier, from Abby's point of view. Season 3 will primarily be told from Abby's point of view as she develops a friendship with Seraphite dissidents Yara and Lev while the WLF, led by ruthless pragmatist Isaac (Jeffrey Wright), prepares to attack the Seraphites' base. Dever, who was a guest star in Season 2, will become the show's lead, while Ramsey will shift to a supporting role for at least some of the season, though how much is still TBD. 'I think that I'm going to be there, but not a whole bunch,' Ramsey told Variety. 'We've had conversations about that. I sort of have a rough idea of what it's going to be, but I can't tell you.' Mazin said that how much already established characters like Ellie, Dina, Jesse, and Tommy (Gabriel Luna) will appear in Season 3 is still being worked out. 'All I can say is we haven't seen the last of Kaitlyn Dever and we haven't seen the last of Bella Ramsey, and we haven't seen the last of Isabela Merced, and we haven't seen the last of a lot of people who are currently dead in the story,' he said during a press conference for the Season 2 finale. Bella Ramsey and Kaitlyn Dever will of course return as Ellie and Abby, respectively. Isabela Merced will return as Dina and Gabriel Luna will return as Joel's brother Tommy. Jeffrey Wright will have a larger role as Isaac, who only appeared a few times in Season 2. Spencer Lord and Ariela Barer will also likely return, as Owen and Mel play important parts in Abby's story. But, again, the story for Season 3 is still being worked out, and the cast is officially unconfirmed. Season 3 will also introduce new characters, most importantly the aforementioned Yara and Lev, who have not been cast yet. Yara was played in the game by Victoria Grace, while Lev was played by Ian Alexander. It's possible that Pedro Pascal could return in flashbacks as Joel, but that's perhaps unlikely, as all of his important scenes from The Last of Us Part II were incorporated into Season 2. Like Seasons 1 and 2, Season 3 will air on HBO and be available to stream on HBO Max. Best of GoldDerby Jay Duplass on exposing his 'dad bod' and playing a 'soft villain' in 'Dying for Sex': 'Easily one of my biggest acting challenges' Jon Hamm on 'Your Friends and Neighbors': 'None of us are perfect specimens' 'I'm very happy to be busy': O-T Fagbenle on his trio of Emmy-eligible performances Click here to read the full article.

‘Is that about me?' Seth Rogen loves how ‘The Studio' keeps Hollywood guessing
‘Is that about me?' Seth Rogen loves how ‘The Studio' keeps Hollywood guessing

Yahoo

time16 hours ago

  • Yahoo

‘Is that about me?' Seth Rogen loves how ‘The Studio' keeps Hollywood guessing

Ever since viewers — especially those working in Hollywood — fell in love with The Studio, the series' creators Seth Rogen and Evan Goldberg have gotten accustomed to people at cocktail parties leaning in confidentially and asking, hushed, 'How did you hear that story about me?' 'The people who it's actually based on don't think it's based on them, and the people who it's not based on want to think it's based on them!' Rogen told Gold Derby at Apple TV+'s FYC celebration at the Hollywood Athletic Club, erupting into his signature chuckle. 'It's a funny pattern.' More from GoldDerby 'The Hills of California' star Laura Donnelly on having to revamp her character in 10 days: 'I had a minor panic attack' 'Beatles '64' director David Tedeschi on working with Martin Scorsese to create something 'that has never been seen before' 'Lilo & Stitch' set for massive opening, making 'Mission: Impossible - The Final Reckoning' settle for 2nd 'When someone thinks it's based on them, it's best to let them,' Goldberg added. 'So many people have been like, 'I know where you got that idea!'' laughed costar and writer-producer Ike Barinholtz. 'Because I don't want to offend anyone. I'm like, 'Yeah, that's a lot of different ideas...' But I'm very touched when people see a little bit of themselves or something they recognize. To me it makes it resonate more with them.' Eric Charbonneau/Apple TV+ via Getty Images It's just one of the increasingly familiar aftereffects rippling toward Rogen, Goldberg, and their cast and creative team ever since The Studio found an appreciative mass audience and became required viewing for anyone working in Hollywood — both for the guessing game of Who inspired that? and the shock of recognition when the seemingly outrageous, high-stress behind-the-scenes scenarios hit a little too close to home. Some of it can be a little PTSD-triggering — or as Goldberg suggested, without the 'post,' because many of them 'are living it right now, every day.' Discovering the show was leaving showbiz insiders more than a little shook has actually been validating for Rogen. "A real fear I had was, 'The people we are truly discussing and analyzing — will it resonate with them? Will they think it's bullshit? Will they think we missed it?' But no! I'm actually friends with a few executives, who after every episode — I get several texts from them, literally, where they were just like, 'I can't believe you went there. How dare you? How dare you go there?'' 'I was on a call not too long ago with a friend of mine who works in casting, and it was right after the casting episode came out,' said Barinholtz, recalling the episode that depicted the constant, culturally sensitive landmines the show's film execs kept nearly stepping on while casting the Kool-Aid movie. 'She was like, 'I feel a little weird talking to you right now,' just because of that. It was too meta.' Barinholtz's beleaguered film executive Sal Saperstein has emerged as something of a cult hero following the uproarious Golden Globes episode in which he's repeatedly, unexpectedly thanked from the awards show stage as a running gag — something that's coming to life as Barinholtz is getting strangers offering shout-outs of 'Thank you, Sal Saperstein!' in his everyday life. Even Questlove quoted the line on social media, to the actor's disbelief. "If and when Adam Scott wins Best Actor for Severance, I hope he thanks Sal Saperstein," he said. "I'm trying to will that to happen, but it has definitely exploded a little bit. And whether it's Instagram commentators or people at a function I'm at, people want to come up and thank Sal Saperstein, and I'm here for it.' During the rollicking panel discussion — moderated by Gold Derby editor-in-chief Debra Birnbaum — Rogen, Goldberg, Barinholtz were joined by costars Catherine O'Hara, Chase Sui Wonders, Dewayne Perkins, and Keyla Monterroso Mejia. Goldberg revealed that the creators have actually received unsolicited 'studio notes' from seemingly helpful executives. Getty Images 'We got a note that the Matt character doesn't understand responsibility enough and tries to be liked too much,' said Goldberg. 'And we were like, 'Yeah — that's his character. That's the point of the show!'' He chalked up the blind spot in their thinking to over-identifying with Rogen's character, Matt Remick. 'I think these executives see themselves in him and think, 'I don't do that, so he can't do that!' ... They're trying to 'solve' the show.' 'Yeah, they're trying to fix it — to fix my guy,' laughed Rogen. 'The show's not funny anymore if you fix my guy.' ''He should be more likable,'' Rogen quoted the execs' criticism. 'So should you!' One executive who showed a sense of humor was Netflix co-CEO and Chief Content Officer Ted Sarandos. He made a cameo in the Golden Globes episode and, when asked to react from his table as if he had just been thanked on stage, displayed just how well-practiced he is in real life. As for the confrontational scene in the men's room at the urinals, Rogen says the Hollywood titan was just as unfazed. 'He didn't blink at that — actually, he wanted it,' Rogen (maybe) quipped. Currently planning the second season of the show, Rogen and Goldberg told Gold Derby they're 'very much' looking to find ways to employ more distinctive cinematic techniques and technical toolkits, in the way the episode The Oner utilized the long, masterful one-shot takes made legendary in films like The Player and Goodfellas. 'There's all sorts of technical things we want to play with,' said Goldberg. 'We've also actually geared our thinking more towards real-time episodes,' Rogen added, 'because I think those are the ones that people seem to sort of engage with the most, and the more condensed timeline, the more people seem to enjoy it. That's something that we've also talked a lot about.' Apple TV+ But what matters most to the duo is that, underneath all the comedy and beyond all the weary and frustrating professional war stories, their unabashed love of the industry comes shining through. 'The show's written from our perspective, and that is how we approach every episode: as people who genuinely have faith overall that this industry is one that can provide great work and has people in it who are pursuing that,' said Rogen. 'We have amazing lives from this industry, and in general, we've gotten to do what we want. I look back to the things we've made and we're very proud of it. So we write from a place of appreciation and hope for the industry.' 'At times we've been beaten down by it and disappointed in it and aggravated by it, but at the end of the day, then we got to make a show about all that!' he added. 'So it's hard to be too down on it overall.' Goldberg hopes their enthusiasm is contagious. 'If I was in the audience at the end of the last episode,' he said, 'I would get up and chant 'Movies!'' Best of GoldDerby 'The Pitt' star Tracy Ifeachor thinks about Collins and Robby's backstory 'all the time': 'It just didn't work out because it's not the right time' How Eddie Redmayne crafted his 'deeply unflappable' assassin on 'The Day of the Jackal' TV composers roundtable: 'Adolescence,' 'Day of the Jackal,' 'Interview With the Vampire,' 'Your Friends and Neighbors' Click here to read the full article.

DOWNLOAD THE APP

Get Started Now: Download the App

Ready to dive into the world of global news and events? Download our app today from your preferred app store and start exploring.
app-storeplay-store