
How do Penn State, Big Ten teams compare in US LBM Coaches Poll vs. AP Top 25?
In the US LBM Coaches Poll, released Aug. 4, Penn State was ranked No. 3 behind Texas and Ohio State. The Nittany Lions received 14 first-place votes, and it's their highest preseason ranking since 1999. That Penn State team was ranked No. 4 and climbed to No. 2 after a 9-0 start. However, the wheels fell off for the Nittany Lions, who suffered three straight losses to end the regular season at 9-3 and out of championship contention.
The AP Top 25 Poll, released Aug. 11, has Penn State ranked at No. 2 with 23 first-place votes — just two fewer than No. 1 Texas. This is the Nittany Lions' highest ranking in the AP preseason poll since 1997, when they started as the No. 1 team. That squad started 7-0, but blowout losses to Michigan and Michigan State ended its championship hopes.
The biggest difference between the preseason polls is Penn State's ranking relative to the Big Ten. The AP poll ranks the Nittany Lions one spot above Ohio State, a team that they haven't beaten since 2016. This could be interpreted as a vote of confidence in Penn State's experienced veteran roster, or a sign of doubt for a Buckeyes team that will have many new starters. The coaches poll has them reversed, with Ohio State ranked one spot above Penn State. Regardless, we'll get to see who has the upper hand when they meet in Columbus on Nov. 1.
The rest of the polls line up similarly. No. 7 Oregon, No. 12 Illinois and No. 14 Michigan are ranked the same in both polls, while Indiana is ranked No. 19 in the coaches poll and No. 20 in the AP poll. As it stands, Penn State will face three ranked teams — Ohio State, Oregon and Indiana — but it might play even more depending on how the year shakes out.
In the coaches poll, Iowa is considered the No. 33 team after receiving 49 votes, whereas the Hawkeyes would be No. 42 based on their five votes in the AP poll. Nebraska (19 votes) is No. 39 in the coaches poll, but is ranked higher at No. 34 (23 votes) in the AP poll. Where these teams stand is very relevant when it comes to Penn State's end-of-year resume, which will help determine their College Football Playoff seeding.
Simply put, the Nittany Lions will be rooting for Iowa and Nebraska to be ranked in the top 25 when they play them. At best, Penn State would add two ranked wins to its resume. Conversely, Penn State wouldn't be punished too hard for having ranked losses to these teams.
There's also an important change to the CFP format this year that will likely benefit the Big Ten and SEC conferences. Now, the top four teams will receive first-round byes regardless of if they won their conference. Last year, Penn State was ranked No. 4, but didn't get a bye because they lost the Big Ten championship game.
Of course, the CFP Committee decides the CFP rankings, but the Nittany Lions' spot in these preseason polls will certainly impact their perception, especially in the scenario that Penn State drops games and needs some help to get a more favorable seeding.
Regardless of which poll you look at, Penn State is going to have a target on its back as one of the top teams in the nation and is going to get every opponent's best shot.

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