‘Severance's' creator reads your Reddit posts: ‘It's something I talked to my therapist about'

Los Angeles Times

21-03-2025

Welcome to Screen Gab, the newsletter for everyone who thinks today is even better than a waffle party.
That's because the highly anticipated Season 2 finale of 'Severance' arrived Friday and promptly broke the internet (and also secured a Season 3 renewal from Apple TV+). If you, like us, can't stop talking about 'Cold Harbor,' senior television writer Yvonne Villarreal has some (spoiler-free) details from series creator Dan Erickson and executive producer Ben Stiller in this week's 'Break Down.'
Plus, streaming recommendations for your weekend and a visit from 'The Z-Suite's' Katie O'Brien.
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Recommendations from the film and TV experts at The Times
'Cadfael' (Britbox)
Long before Claire Randall/Fraser dazzled the MacKenzie clan with the healing power of herbs and general hygiene in 'Outlander,' Brother Cadfael (Derek Jacobi) of the 1994 British series 'Cadfael' was wielding the same knowledge, and using it to solve murder mysteries to boot. A 12th century monk, who took the cowl after years as a Crusader, Cadfael is as observant as Sherlock Holmes, as kindly as Dr. Watson and as pragmatically spiritual as Father Brown.
Based on the books by Ellis Peters, 'Cadfael' is set in the town of Shrewsbury, near the Welsh border, and against the backdrop of the 15-year war between King Stephen and Queen Maud known as the Anarchy. It's an old-school period drama, full of wax-sealed missives, ankle-high mud and stained glass windows, where sumptuously clothed lords and ladies mix with monks, minstrels and lepers, soldiers, nuns and tradesmen — and more than a few runaway serfs. For viewers who like to Google as they go, it's a wealth of historical wormholes; for those who do not, it is a series of clever mysteries and a remarkably well-done bit of world-building, without the benefit of today's digital technology. Not to mention a chance to see a panoply of young actors, including Hugh Bonneville, Jonny Lee Miller, Toby Jones, Anna Friel and Tara FitzGerald, in early roles.
But mostly it is a showcase for Jacobi, a performer of such effortless talent and humanity that he juggles Cadfael's magnetic mixture of old soldier, healer, teacher, holy brother, psychologist, detective and match-maker with ease. Especially when Cadfael's worldly wisdom and endless curiosity puts him at odds with his stricter brethren, including the authoritarian Prior Robert (Michael Culver) and his deliciously weasely henchman Brother Jerome (Julian Firth). In a world full of anarchy and uncertainty, one's faith in Brother Cadfael is never misplaced. — Mary McNamara
'Heartbreakers Beach Party' (Paramount+)
Cameron Crowe made his directorial debut with this 1983 made-for-MTV scrapbook documentary on Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, seven years into their career. (Crowe, only 25, had already been a rock journalist for a decade, written the book 'Fast Times at Ridgemont High' and the screenplay for the film.) Shown only once on MTV — though, like me, you might have taped and watched it a hundred times — with a recent very limited theatrical release, it's been visually restored and enlarged with a slew of outtakes and a conversation between the director and Petty's daughter Adria. Crowe, an amusing onscreen host, interviews Petty cruising L.A. in the back of a limousine ('It's a pretty obnoxious way to travel around,' the singer admits, 'but I don't have to ride in an old Ford to convince myself I'm of the street') and catches up with the band on the desert location of the 'You Got Lucky' video. The film includes terrific performance and backstage footage, including one scene borrowed for 'This Is Spinal Tap,' and is infused first and last with the amiable charm that served Petty well over the next three and a half decades. — Robert Lloyd
A weekly chat with actors, writers, directors and more about what they're working on — and what they're watching
Tubi's first original comedy 'The Z-Suite' mines its premise from an all-too-real workplace experience: intergenerational misunderstanding. Starring Lauren Graham as a successful executive at a New York ad agency so out of touch with her Gen Z coworkers (and target demographic) that it puts her career in peril, the series mercifully leaves the boomer / millennial wars behind — but it still captures the bafflement that comes with trying to wrap one's head around another generation's professional mores. Creator Katie O'Brien stopped by Screen Gab recently to share how this dynamic played out on 'The Z-Suite' set, what working with a fledgling programmer felt like and more. — Matt Brennan
What have you watched recently that you're recommending to everyone you know?
I regret to inform you that my entire personality revolves around reality television (is it a regret, or IS IT A BRAG?!). I'd like to recommend 'The Traitors' on Peacock — Alan Cumming is my idea of a higher power. In terms of scripted television, I really enjoyed 'Laid,' which is also on Peacock. I'd also like to recommend a gem of a reality show from 2005: 'Criss Angel Mindfreak' [Prime Video]. It stars Criss Angel, his stunts and his superb street magic. He's buried alive in snow in the episode 'White Death.' The show rocks.
What's your go-to comfort watch, the film or TV show you return to again and again?
For film,'Fargo' [Prime Video] — and yes, it's a comfort movie for me — 'Best in Show' [VOD] and 'Waiting for Guffman' [Plex]. Oh! And 'This Is Spinal Tap' [Pluto]. Love me some 'Spinal Tap.' Really, anything Christopher Guest.
TV-wise, 'Gilmore Girls' [Netflix, Hulu] and '30 Rock' [Hulu, Peacock]. I always find myself returning to '30 Rock.'
Describe the funniest intergenerational misunderstanding that's occurred on the set of 'The Z-Suite.'
One moment stands out: Our producing director, Tristram Shapeero, was talking about a film he liked and recommending it to the cast. No one had heard of it, and then one of the younger cast members Googled it, looked me dead in the eyes, and mouthed, 'It's from 1930.'
'The Z-Suite' is Tubi's first original comedy and only its third scripted original. As the show was in development/production, how did the conversations with the platform differ from more established streamers or networks you've worked with?
More established streamers and networks are like, 'Hey-o, so this is how this is gonna go…' But the process with Tubi was very collaborative — it felt like we were all in it together, which I found really refreshing and exciting. As a creator, all you want is for the network to believe in you and in the show. Tubi championed the show, championed me, championed the material and the cast. I feel so grateful and lucky to be working with Tubi.
Times staffers chew on the pop culture of the moment — love it, hate it or somewhere in between
Innies feel love too. But do they get happily ever afters?
After a three-year-long hiatus that made many fans' hearts grow fonder, the second season of 'Severance' (Apple TV+) concluded this week with innie Mark (Adam Scott) making a critical choice — and, in the process, producing a TV finale moment that is already being analyzed on TikTok. We won't say more than that in case you haven't watched.
Created by TV newcomer Dan Erickson and executive producer Ben Stiller, who directs half of the second season, the sci-fi thriller follows a team of employees — Mark, Helly (Britt Lower), Irving (John Turturro) and Dylan (Zach Cherry) — who have undergone a procedure to separate their work self (innies) from their personal self (outies) at an ominous biotechnology company known as Lumon Industries. The first season ended with the group joining forces to have the procedure briefly overridden so they could experience life as their outies. The aftermath of those experiences propelled the second season as the identity-challenged characters grappled with their outies' motivations to be severed. It all culminated with innie Mark grappling with his personhood. Along the way, there was an over-the-top, head-scratching marching band interlude and a bloody brawl.
Similar to its first season, production on the second cycle used block shooting rather than taking an episode by episode approach. But Stiller estimates that it took about 23 days to shoot the finale, a few more than the season average. 'This had such different challenges in it — like the fight with Mr. Drummond or the marching band,' he says. 'It felt like it was its own little movie when we were working on it.'
The high-concept premise has created a legion of theorists and forecasters obsessing over details and clues to try to piece together what it all means. As a fan, it's both fun and overwhelming. But does it threaten the intrigue? Erickson doesn't think so.
'I love how much the discourse has become a part of the life of the show,' he told me recently over Zoom. 'But it is overwhelming to me. I've almost entirely had to stop looking at the Reddit. But I've said that before, and then I started up again, and I'll probably start up again at some point, but especially right now, because we're sort of in the process of crafting the story for the next season — that already is a very overwhelming process where sometimes you feel like you have infinite options and you don't know which way to go. And so to add on to that, all these people who believe so strongly in one direction or another — in just about all cases, it's not exactly what we're going to do. And so you worry, you're like, 'Oh no, that guy's going to be so disappointed.' It's something I talked to my therapist about. It is a great honor that people put that much energy into it and it feels like a big responsibility. So I have to try to tune it out, just for the sake of the work, just so that we can continue with the version that we're doing and that we love.'
Erickson said he planned to spend finale night with his phone turned off. But he is curious to see what chatter it will fuel.
'Ultimately, I am very interested in how people are going to respond to it, but I think that night, it will be too tense for me.' —Yvonne Villarreal