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Startup CEO says Google had everything ..., yet OpenAI beat them to the LLM Gold Rush, Elon Musk's 'one-word' reply

Startup CEO says Google had everything ..., yet OpenAI beat them to the LLM Gold Rush, Elon Musk's 'one-word' reply

Time of India6 hours ago

An online debate over
AI race
of Silicon Valley reignited recently. Tesla CEO
Elon Musk
also presented his point of view on the debate with a one-word response. Recently, a US federal judge ruled that Anthropic and AI company did not break any copyright laws while training AI model Claude using books. The judge pointed out that the use of books was a fair step and an AI model does not copy or reproduce books but it learns from them and then generate original content.
Soon after the judgement, an online debate started on X (formerly known as Twitter). A startup CEO Luis Batalha has asserted that
Google
, despite possessing "everything" needed, was ultimately outmaneuvered by
OpenAI
in the burgeoning
Large Language Model
(LLM) "gold rush."
'Google had everything: the transformer, massive compute, access to data, even Google Books - yet OpenAI beat them to the LLM gold rush. Having the pieces isn't the same as playing the game,' wrote Batalha.
Tesla CEO Elon Musk also supported the sentiment with a one-word reponse 'True'.
Originally Google has been at the forefront of AI research. The company has published seminal papers and has also developed advanced models. However, with the launch of
ChatGPT
, OpenAI managed to capture imagination of millions and ignited the current "LLM Gold Rush," forcing other tech giants to accelerate their own public-facing generative AI initiatives. Critics suggest that Google's cautious approach, perhaps due to its established market position and the potential risks of deploying rapidly evolving AI, allowed a leaner, more focused entity like OpenAI to seize the early lead.

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