How Pakistan shot down India's cutting-edge fighter using Chinese gear

RNZ News

03-08-2025

By
Saeed Shah
and
Shivam Patel
, Reuters
An Indian Air Force (IAF) Rafale fighter jet takes off, November 2022.
Photo:
Emmanuel Dunard / AFP
Just after midnight on 7 May, the screen in the Pakistan Air Force's operations room lit up in red with the positions of dozens of active enemy planes across the border in India.
Air Chief Marshal Zaheer Sidhu had been sleeping on a mattress just off that room for days in anticipation of an Indian assault.
New Delhi had blamed Islamabad for backing militants who carried out an attack the previous month in Indian Kashmir,
which killed 26 civilians.
Despite Islamabad denying any involvement, India had vowed a response, which came in the early hours of 7 May, with air strikes on Pakistan.
Sidhu ordered Pakistan's prized Chinese-made J-10C jets to scramble.
A senior Pakistani Air Force (PAF) official, who was present in the operations room, said Sidhu instructed his staff to target Rafales, a French-made fighter that is the jewel of India's fleet and had never been downed in battle.
"He wanted Rafales," said the official.
The hour-long fight, which took place in darkness, involved some 110 aircraft, experts estimate, making it the world's largest air battle in decades.
The J-10s
shot down at least one Rafale
, Reuters reported in May, citing US officials. It's downing surprised many in the military community and raised questions about the effectiveness of Western military hardware against untested Chinese alternatives.
Pakistan Air Force J-10C fighter jets perform at a rehearsal ahead of Pakistan's national day parade in Islamabad in March, 2024.
Photo:
Aamir Qureshi / AFP
Shares of Dassault, which makes the Rafale, dipped after reports that the fighter had been shot down. Indonesia, which has outstanding Rafale orders, has said it is now considering purchasing J-10s - a major boost to China's efforts to sell the aircraft overseas.
Reuters interviews with two Indian officials and three of their Pakistani counterparts found that the performance of the Rafale wasn't the key problem. Central to its downing was an Indian intelligence failure concerning the range of the China-made PL-15 missile fired by the J-10 fighter.
China and Pakistan are the only countries to operate both J-10s - known as Vigorous Dragons - and PL-15s.
The faulty intelligence gave the Rafale pilots a false sense of confidence that they were out of Pakistani firing distance, which they believed was only about 150km, the Indian officials said, referring to the widely cited range of PL-15's export variant.
"We ambushed them," the PAF official said, adding that Islamabad conducted an electronic warfare assault on Delhi's systems in an attempt to confuse Indian pilots.
Indian officials dispute the effectiveness of those efforts.
"The Indians were not expecting to be shot at," said Justin Bronk, air warfare expert at London's Royal United Services Institute (RUSI) think-tank. "The PL-15 is clearly very capable at long range."
The PL-15 that hit the Rafale was fired from about 200km away, according to Pakistani officials, and even farther, according to Indian officials. That would make it among the longest-range air-to-air strikes recorded.
India's defence and foreign ministries did not return requests for comment about the intelligence mistakes.
Delhi hasn't acknowledged a Rafale being shot down, but France's air chief told reporters in June that he had seen evidence of the loss of that fighter and two other aircraft flown by India, including a Russian-made Sukhoi.
A top Dassault executive also told French lawmakers that month that India had lost a Rafale in operations, although he didn't have specific details.
Pakistan's military referred to past comments by a spokesperson, who said that its professional preparedness and resolve was more important than the weaponry it had deployed.
China's defence ministry did not respond to Reuters' questions. Dassault and UAC, the manufacturer of the Sukhoi, also did not return requests for comment.
Reuters spoke to eight Pakistani and two Indian officials to piece together an account of the aerial battle, which marked the start of four days of fighting between the two nuclear-armed neighbours that caused alarm in Washington.
The officials all spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss national security matters.
Not only did Islamabad have the element of surprise with its missiles' range, the Pakistani and Indian officials said, but it managed to more efficiently connect its military hardware to surveillance on the ground and in the air, providing it with a clearer picture of the battlefield.
Such networks, known as "kill chains," have become a crucial element of modern warfare.
Four Pakistani officials said they created a "kill chain" or a multi-domain operation, by linking air, land and space sensors.
The network included a Pakistani-developed system, Data Link 17, which connected Chinese military hardware with other equipment, including a Swedish-made surveillance plane, two Pakistani officials said.
The system allowed the J-10s flying closer to India to obtain radar feeds from the surveillance plane cruising further away, meaning the Chinese-made fighters could turn their radars off and fly undetected, according to experts.
Pakistan's military did not respond to requests for comment on this point.
Delhi is trying to set up a similar network, the Indian officials said, adding that their process was more complicated because the country sourced aircraft from a wide range of exporters.
Retired UK Air Marshal Greg Bagwell, now a fellow at RUSI, said the episode didn't conclusively prove the superiority of either Chinese or Western air assets, but it showed the importance of having the right information and using it.
"The winner in this was the side that had the best situational awareness," said Bagwell.
After India, in the early hours of 7 May, struck targets in Pakistan that it called terrorist infrastructure, Sidhu ordered his squadrons to switch from defence to attack.
Five PAF officials said India had deployed some 70 planes, which was more than they had expected and provided Islamabad's PL-15s with a target-rich environment.
India has not said how many planes were used.
The 7 May battle marked the first big air contest of the modern era in which weaponry is used to strike targets beyond visual range, said Bagwell, noting both India and Pakistan's planes remained well within their airspaces across the duration of the fight.
Five Pakistani officials said an electronic assault on Indian sensors and communications systems reduced the situational awareness of the Rafale's pilots.
The two Indian officials said the Rafales were not blinded during the skirmishes and that Indian satellites were not jammed. But they acknowledged that Pakistan appeared to have disrupted the Sukhoi, whose systems Delhi is now upgrading.
Other Indian security officials have deflected questions away from the Rafale, a centrepiece of India's military modernisation, to the orders given to the air force.
India's defence attaché in Jakarta told a university seminar that Delhi had lost some aircraft "only because of the constraint given by the political leadership to not attack (Pakistan's) military establishments and their air defences."
India's chief of defence staff, General Anil Chauhan, previously told Reuters that Delhi quickly "rectified tactics" after the initial losses.
After the 7 May air battle, India began targeting Pakistani military infrastructure and asserting its strength in the skies.
It's Indian-made BrahMos supersonic cruise missile repeatedly sliced through Pakistan's air defences, according to officials on both sides.
On 10 May, India said it struck at least nine air bases and radar sites in Pakistan. It also hit a surveillance plane parked in a hangar in southern Pakistan, according to Indian and Pakistani officials.
A ceasefire was agreed later that day, after US officials held talks with both sides.
In the aftermath of the episode, India's deputy army chief Lieutenant General Rahul Singh accused Pakistan of receiving "live inputs" from China during the battles, implying radar and satellite feeds.
Military personnel stand in front of a Chengdu Aircraft Corporation J-10C, September, 2021.
Photo:
Noel Celis / AFP
He did not provide evidence and Islamabad denied the allegation.
When asked at a July briefing about Beijing's military partnership with Pakistan, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Mao Ning told reporters the work was "part of the normal co-operation between the two countries and does not target any third party".
Beijing's air chief, Lieutenant General Wang Gang, visited Pakistan in July to discuss how Islamabad had used Chinese equipment to put together the "kill chain" for the Rafale, two PAF officials said.
China did not respond, when asked about that interaction.
The Pakistani military said in July that Wang had expressed "keen interest in learning from PAF's battle-proven experience in Multi Domain Operations".
-Reuters