logo
Michelle Obama says she is 'glad' she never had a son because he would have turned out like Obama - as marriage rumours refuse to go away

Michelle Obama says she is 'glad' she never had a son because he would have turned out like Obama - as marriage rumours refuse to go away

Daily Mail​21-06-2025
Michelle Obama has said she is 'glad' she never had a son because he would have turned out like her husband - as their unhappy marriage rumours refuse to go away.
The former First Lady, 61, shares daughters Sasha, 24, and Malia, 26, with 44th US president Barack Obama, 63, who was in office from 2009 to 2017.
Speaking on her podcast IMO, which she co-hosts with her brother Craig Robinson, she said on Wednesday: 'I'm so glad I didn't have a son because he would have been a Barack Obama.'
Guest Angie Martinez, an American radio presenter, there to help out on the agony aunt show, replied: 'Baby Barack. It would have been amazing.'
But Mrs Obama soon countered, The Telegraph reports: 'No, I would've felt for him.'
It comes as the couple, who tied the knot in 1992 after meeting as fellow attorneys at a Chicago law firm in 1989, face speculation their marriage is on the rocks - which Mrs Obama has vehemently denied.
The rumours began after Mr Obama attended several high-profile events - including former president Jimmy Carter's funeral and President Donald Trump's inauguration, both in January - without his wife.
And the Daily Mail revealed exclusively yesterday Mrs Obama has jetted off on a getaway to the Spanish island of Mallorca without her husband.
Speaking on her podcast IMO (pictured), which she co-hosts with her brother Craig Robinson (centre, with guest Angie Martinez, left, and Mrs Obama, right), she said on Wednesday: 'I'm so glad I didn't have a son because he would have been a Barack Obama'
Elsewhere in Wednesday's podcast episode, she appeared to take another swipe at her husband too as she mentioned his long-time hobby of playing golf.
The author and former attorney began: 'Parenting is like fly-fishing.
'Never been fly fishing but from what I've seen about it, it's all in the wrist, it's a very delicate balance... it's like nothing works the same way every time.'
Laughing, she finished, somewhat pointedly: 'It's elegance, right? It's not dunk and drop and grab... We should go fly fishing. Better than golfing.'
Mrs Obama finally addressed long-running speculation about her 33-year marriage head-on on an episode of celebrity interview podcast The Diary of a CEO in May.
She told host and entrepreneur Steven Bartlett: 'If I were having problems with my husband, everybody would know about it.'
And she has spoken out on the matter on her own podcast too, praising Mr Obama as a 'tremendous father' during an episode this month.
She said even when he was president, he left the job at the door whenever he talked to his daughters, determined to be there for them in their formative years.
The couple were also spotted out on a date night in New York City last month, after having also been seen going out to dinner in Washington DC in April.
And Mrs Obama told The Jay Shetty Podcast last month that though her marriage can be 'hard', 'I wouldn't trade it', calling her husband, 'as the young people say... my person'.
She continued on the British mental health show: 'The beauty of my husband and our partnership is that neither one of us was ever really, ever going to quit at it, because that's not who we are.
'And I know that about him. He knows that about me.'
In April, Mrs Obama also told American actress Sophia Bush on her celebrity interview podcast Work In Progress: 'We as women, I think we struggle with, like disappointing people.
'So much so that this year people were, they couldn't even fathom that I was making a choice for myself, that they had to assume that my husband and I are divorcing... that's what society does to us.'
But despite these denials, the divorce rumours are proving hard to shake, with speculation reignited as she travels to Spain without her husband in tow this week.
Mrs Obama was pictured yesterday with her daughters and James Costos, 62, former US ambassador to Spain and his partner Michael Smith, 62, the Obamas' longtime interior designer and former White House decorator‑in‑chief.
The group were seen enjoying a meal at The Lobster Club in the Puerto Portals marina - with Mr Obama conspicuously not in attendance.
Mr Smith and Mr Costos are long-time friends of the Obamas and have hosted the family many times at their Rancho Mirage home in Palm Springs, California.
It followed the former First Lady's admission she does not like being referred to as Mrs Obama.
She shared her reservations when appearing on the Las Culturistas podcast, hosted by American comedians Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, with her brother earlier this week.
Mr Rogers revealed before they began recording, she had asked him to just be called 'Michelle' instead of 'Mrs Obama'.
He began the episode of the pop culture podcast: 'Earlier I was like, "Thank you so much, Mrs Obama," and you said, "Michelle,".'
'I did say that,' she responded, laughing, 'We cannot have a real conversation if you're saying, "Mrs Obama", that's too many syllables.'
Mr Rogers then asked if she is usually quick to 'put down that shield for people,' and Mrs Obama admitted she was constantly trying to appear less intimidating.
Despite Mrs Obama's denials, the divorce rumours are proving hard to shake, with speculation reignited as she travels to Spain without her husband in tow this week. Pictured: The Obamas on their wedding day in October 1992
'I was trying to do that when I was First Lady because I just think... I am not that position. I am Michelle', she explained.
She said she lets children call her Mrs Obama 'because they're learning' - but does not like adults saying it, especially when she is trying to connect to them.
'I'm always trying to break down that wall to say, "We're just all here"', she continued. 'And the first thing to do is like, let's drop that title, that's a little heavy.'
The former First Lady said people calling her Mrs Obama 'changes the dynamic': 'So, I'm Michelle.'
Her brother Mr Robinson then quipped: 'I know what we call her - Your Highness.'
'Well, it's great to be on a first name basis', host Mr Rogers joked.
The Obamas' eldest daughter Malia, an aspiring filmmaker, has also dropped her famous surname and is now going by Malia Ann professionally.
Michelle has publicly supported Malia's decision, emphasising she wants her daughter to 'carve her own path' and 'make her way'.
Other events of recent months that have fuelled speculation about the Obamas' marriage include Mrs Obama missing the couple's usual courtside seats at the NBA All-Stars basketball game in March.
Orange background

Try Our AI Features

Explore what Daily8 AI can do for you:

Comments

No comments yet...

Related Articles

‘We're in a healthy relationship!' Alison Brie and Dave Franco on gruesome body horror Together
‘We're in a healthy relationship!' Alison Brie and Dave Franco on gruesome body horror Together

The Guardian

time18 minutes ago

  • The Guardian

‘We're in a healthy relationship!' Alison Brie and Dave Franco on gruesome body horror Together

Dave Franco is showing me his wounds: a bloody finger, a grazed foot, a palm full of blisters. On his phone, the actor zooms in on the photo collage he has compiled of the worst injuries he sustained on the set of Together, the romance-horror he stars in alongside his wife, Alison Brie. She is not to be outdone. In one scene, Brie's character is propelled against a glass door by a mysterious force. During filming, it seemed as if her stunt double was walking up to the door 'very slowly. I felt like it was not landing the beat,' says the actor. 'I said: 'Let me just do it.' And that's what's in the movie, me running and slamming into the glass. Then, of course, I had a little bruise on my nose that we had to cover with makeup.' Franco and Brie were clearly willing to throw themselves – literally – into the hugely entertaining film, which follows Tim and Millie, an unhappy couple who move to the countryside and begin experiencing a bizarre and nauseating fusion of their bodies. The pair also co-produced the film – the feature debut from the Australian writer-director Michael Shanks – and were instrumental in getting it made, which is why they are also pouring every ounce of energy into spreading the word. After its Sundance premiere generated significant hype and a reported $17m (£13.7m) distribution deal, Brie and Franco hit the US promotional trail hard: posing in a two-headed hoodie, answering questions while entertaining a swarm of rats (rodents feature heavily in the film) and turning their relationship into a comedy double act. At Together's London screening, they introduced the film with an anecdote about staring into each other's eyes while going to the toilet on set (they were conjoined by prosthetics for hours at a time during filming). It's now lunchtime the day after – the pair have flown in from Los Angeles for 48 hours – and Brie and Franco have been doing radio interviews all morning. Are they tired of talking? 'We don't mind!' says Franco. It's the most press they have done for any project, they admit, but 'no one's forcing us to do this. It's a low-budget independent film coming out in the middle of summer against these giant tentpoles and we just want to create awareness.' Brie, who looks exceptionally glam in a black mini dress and matching black mini handbag, is an enthusiastic salesperson; Franco, sitting beside her in a knitted polo and high-waisted trousers, says he is much more shy. 'But I think she brings me out of my shell in a good way.' That said, Franco seems slightly on edge – at one point, he fiddles so much with a bottle-top that it flies across the table and hits me. 'Honey, please don't fling things at the journalist!' jokes Brie, as Franco apologises profusely. Together doubles as a Rorschach test: the prospect of physically and psychologically merging with your romantic partner has divided viewers, say the pair. At the beginning, Tim and Millie's dynamic is civil but problematic; Millie is motherly and Tim avoids sex at all costs. But after he drinks from an underground pool, Tim becomes magnetically drawn to Millie – and whenever they touch, separating becomes extremely difficult. In one eye-popping scene, a quickie in a bathroom cubicle threatens to become a more permanent entanglement; later, a rusty saw is the only thing preventing them from transforming into a single entity. 'We have talked to single people who say this is a very strong argument for staying single, and then we talked to a couple who were in a fight all week and the film actually helped them make up,' says Franco. Some people find the ending 'optimistic and romantic'. 'Others find it horrifying,' says Brie. How do its stars feel? 'We find it optimistic. We're in a pretty healthy relationship. Pretty healthy?!' They start laughing at this assessment of their marriage. 'Heal-thy,' repeats Brie, in a comically overbearing fashion, as if she is attempting to convince her husband. From the start, Brie and Franco were aware their relationship would be Together's selling point. 'We knew that the meta quality would enhance the movie,' says Brie, who is best known for playing the goody-two-shoes student Annie Edison in the sitcom Community and the wrestler Ruth 'Zoya the Destroya' Wilder in the comedy drama Glow. But they did worry about whether or not their real-life chemistry would translate to the screen. 'I think it would affect us if people were like: why are they even together?' says Franco, who followed his big break in 21 Jump Street with starring roles in the frat pack comedy Neighbors and the magician-thriller franchise Now You See Me. Brie says performing their marriage for the public has been an 'interesting sensation, because in some ways you feel like you're giving so much of yourselves away'. It helps that the pair 'genuinely love each other' and have been together for 13 years. 'I think doing something like this if we had only been together a couple of years would have freaked me out,' says Brie. 'We're pretty private.' Still, they are digging deep. Brie, who rests her hand on Franco's knee for much of the interview, describes Together as 'dealing with monogamy and co-dependency and then extrapolating it to its most outrageous conclusion'. Rather than becoming sick of the sight of each other, Brie realised after the shoot that the pair 'had become more co-dependent, because we were immediately separated' – for work reasons – 'and I didn't like it'. Technically, a co-dependent relationship involves one party sacrificing their wellbeing for the benefit of the other, but I think Brie and Franco just really like spending time together. What does being co-dependent mean to them? 'I think it's more just being in the same space. What I miss the most is falling asleep next to you,' says Franco, as Brie joins in, chorus-like, with the end of his sentence. Despite the interplay between Brie, Franco and their characters, Together was actually written about another couple: Shanks and his long-term partner. Tim, who sports the same hipster mullet as the director, was originally a 'dark shadow version' of Shanks, says Franco. The film was a brutally self-deprecating portrait of a struggling artist (Tim is a musician) whose partner does a more socially responsible job (Millie is a teacher). 'But he took that a little too far, to a point where my character was just an asshole – you couldn't root for him in any way.' The pair made Tim more sympathetic. They also Americanised the dialogue: 'The boot becomes the trunk,' says Brie. 'We took out all the 'I reckons'.' Franco describes Shanks as 'the most confident first-time director ever'. Yet he and Brie were still determined to protect him from the 'bullshit logistics' of making a low-budget, tight-turnaround indie film. The couple were able to funnel the stress of being producers into playing the two increasingly disturbed protagonists. Shortly before shooting a scene in which Tim has a breakdown, they received the news that they were in danger of losing a filming location. Then Shanks informed Franco that they had time for only one take, which prompted a panic attack. 'I said: roll the cameras quickly, I want to use this for the scene!' The inadvertent method acting worked: Together is a sweaty nightmare of a film. But it's cartoonish as well as creepy, littered with jokes, callbacks and ludicrous imagery. Brie and Franco are most famous for their comedic chops – something she doesn't think is fair. 'My first job was on Mad Men, which I would consider a dramatic television show.' She played Pete Campbell's wife, Trudy, in all seven seasons. 'Before that, I studied theatre and was doing a lot more dramatic work – I didn't do improv or standup or any traditional comedy things.' Didn't she work as a clown, though? 'Yes, but I was like 17 years old, doing that with my theatre friends from high school. So that was more like a summer job.' I point out that I was going to say comedic acting often seems trickier than dramatic acting. 'Definitely,' nods Brie, laughing at her volte face. 'I'm like: we're not known for comedy – actually we are and it's much harder!' Franco is keen to attribute his success in this field to 'the funniest people in the world' who took him under their wing, particularly the Neighbors star Seth Rogen, who recently cast Franco as a hilariously stupid and hedonistic version of himself in the Apple TV+ Hollywood satire The Studio – a performance that bagged him an Emmy nomination. A sequence in which he goes from drug-addled mania, to saving the film studio, to complete collapse was an acting challenge that ordinarily would have intimidated him. 'But Seth and his team had so much faith in me.' Franco's voice begins to crack; his eyes redden. Brie puts her hand back on his knee. 'It makes me emotional even talking about it,' he continues. 'I just feel proud to be a small part of their ecosystem.' For actors, horror and comedy have a lot in common, says Brie. 'In comedy, there's no room for vanity. It's the same in horror, where it's all about playing the stakes: it's not glamorous, you're gonna look fucked up.' One major difference between the genres, however, is their financial viability. It is harder than ever to get a small indie film made – for a comedy, close to impossible – while horror 'is the last remaining genre that draws people to the theatre outside of large tentpole movies', says Brie; amid all the IP-heavy content dominating cinemas, horror 'is where film-makers are getting to take the biggest risks and where the most unique stories are being told'. Brie's next project is directing a 'female-forward' horror movie. Franco's directorial debut, 2020's The Rental – which starred Brie – was also a horror. As a big fan of the genre, 'it felt like the natural first step in going behind the camera', he says. 'We want to keep going down this path and continue to make horror films for ever.' At this point, Franco seriously begins to flag. Brie alternates between finishing his sentences and cheering him on for completing a thought ('Yeah, you landed the plane!'). 'Sorry, I'm so tired,' laughs Franco. They have one last stretch of press to do, they say, at which point the happy couple can have a well-earned break from sharing their love – and rollicking brand of body horror – with the world. Together is in UK and Irish cinemas from 15 August.

Helen Mirren shares a giggle with co-star Pierce Brosnan as they join fellow cast members at The Thursday Murder Club New York Screening
Helen Mirren shares a giggle with co-star Pierce Brosnan as they join fellow cast members at The Thursday Murder Club New York Screening

Daily Mail​

time18 minutes ago

  • Daily Mail​

Helen Mirren shares a giggle with co-star Pierce Brosnan as they join fellow cast members at The Thursday Murder Club New York Screening

Helen Mirren shared a giggle with Pierce Brosnan as they put on a friendly display at the New York screening of their new film The Thursday Murder Club on Thursday. The Oscar-winner, 80, looked radiant in white as she shared a moment with the James Bond star, 72, while the pair stood alongside co-star Ben Kingsley on the red carpet. The two appeared to be sharing an in-joke as they couldn't stop giggling while promoting the film based on Richard Osman 's best-selling novel. Dressed to impress, leading actress Helen dazzled in a white sweater and draped, wide-legged trousers, accessorising her look with a showstopping pearl and gold necklace and matching earrings. Rounding off her outfit with a coordinating clutch bag, Helen oozed class as she posed up a storm in front of the cameras. Meanwhile, Pierce was as dapper as ever, complementing Helen's outfit with a matching white blazer teamed with a white shirt, black trousers and a black tie. The pair were in good company because as well as Ben, they were joined at the event by co-star Tom Ellis, producer Jennifer Todd and director Chris Columbus. While Pierce's son Dylan Brosnan, 28, was on hand to support his father at the screening. The Thursday Murder Club centers on a witty group of retirees who spend their days in a peaceful retirement community—bonding over their shared hobby of solving cold cases. But their quiet pastime takes a thrilling turn when they stumble upon a fresh murder mystery that demands their attention. Mirren leads the cast as Elizabeth, a sharp ex-spy with a knack for uncovering secrets. Brosnan plays Ron, a former union activist with a passionate spirit, while Ben Kingsley portrays Ibrahim, an insightful ex-psychiatrist. Celia Imrie rounds out the group as Joyce, a compassionate ex-nurse who balances the team. The film is based on the bestselling novel by Richard Osman. Dressed to impress, leading actress Helen dazzled in a white sweater and draped, wide-legged trousers, accessorising her look with a showstopping pearl and gold necklace and matching earrings Rounding off her outfit with a coordinating clutch bag, Helen oozed class as she posed up a storm in front of the cameras Meanwhile, Pierce was as dapper as ever, complementing Helen's outfit with a matching white blazer teamed with a white shirt, black trousers and a black tie It is directed by Chris Columbus, known for Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone, with a screenplay penned by Katy Brand and Suzanne Heathcote. Osman wrote the book in secret over 18 months, sparking a fierce 10-way bidding war before Penguin Random House secured the rights for a seven-figure deal in 2019. Upon its 2020 release, The Thursday Murder Club became the only novel that year to sell over one million copies, ranking as the third best-selling hardback behind Dan Brown's The Lost Symbol and JK Rowling's Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows. The success led to three sequels: The Man Who Died Twice (2021), The Bullet That Missed (2022), and The Last Devil to Die (2023). A fifth installment is already planned for publication next year.

Why Sussexes' new Netflix deal might not be the demotion the critics want it to be
Why Sussexes' new Netflix deal might not be the demotion the critics want it to be

Sky News

timean hour ago

  • Sky News

Why Sussexes' new Netflix deal might not be the demotion the critics want it to be

While we're all desperate to know what this new deal is really worth in dollars and pounds, one thing I can tell you for certain is that Prince Harry and Meghan want us to know they're delighted that Netflix again wanted to get a deal done. "Absolutely over the moon" is how it was described to me. But they'll also be aware of the attention it'll attract as we all try to pick apart what it means. Firstly because of that ongoing fascination in how they're making money since stepping away from royal life and losing financial support from the King, but also because of the recent reports that Netflix were intending to cut ties. Yes this is a different type of deal from their original one in 2020. Some have argued that a "first look deal" looks like a demotion from what they previously signed up to. With no real clarity on how much their original deal was worth, and no numbers being publicly thrown around this time, that is hard to judge. But talking to those who know something about these kinds of deals you do get a sense it could potentially be more lucrative than it looks on face value. With first look deals, yes there is often financial commitments from the likes of Netflix to get that first exclusive look at projects and first refusal. 2:22 But there could be other significant monetary incentives for the Sussexes to sign. For example, when the Obamas signed a first look deal with Netflix, the streaming service agreed to pay the operational costs for their production company "Higher Ground". Could it be that Netflix are also now covering the costs of Archewell Productions? It's stating the obvious to say that Harry and Meghan continue to divide opinions, some wanting to watch their programmes from a place of respect and fondness, others as a reason to grumble about them.

DOWNLOAD THE APP

Get Started Now: Download the App

Ready to dive into a world of global content with local flavor? Download Daily8 app today from your preferred app store and start exploring.
app-storeplay-store