Things we learned from Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce's New Heights podcast conversation
Swift recalled how Kelce first expressed interest in dating her on the podcast after failing to meet her at an Eras Tour show. She described his direct approach as a 'wild, romantic gesture' reminiscent of an '80s movie scene, calling him 'a human exclamation point.' Despite normally avoiding unsolicited messages, she said his openness intrigued her. The couple also discussed managing intense public scrutiny, with Swift noting her two decades in the industry have made her resilient, while Kelce said he learned professionalism from her when facing 'wacko theories.'
Both compared the physical demands of their careers, with Swift training for her three-hour Eras Tour shows by running full speed on a treadmill while singing. She noted the constant discomfort, blisters, and need for recovery routines—parallels Kelce recognized from professional football.
A major focus was Swift's decade-long effort to reclaim her master recordings, sold without her consent. She said she had been saving since her teens and sent her mother and brother to negotiate directly with Shamrock Capital. When they succeeded, she collapsed in tears, describing the albums as her 'handwritten diary entries.'
Swift also discussed her use of musical 'Easter eggs,' stressing they always connect to her work, not her personal life. She revealed that her upcoming 12th studio album, The Life of a Showgirl, out 3 October, is inspired by behind-the-scenes moments from the Eras Tour. Kelce described the record as 'upbeat' and a sharp contrast to The Tortured Poets Department.
The episode closed on a lighter note, with the couple sharing their 'sourdough obsession' and Kelce's fascination with otters.
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