logo
The big question in Air India Crash: If pilots didn't cut fuel, what caused both engines to shut down mid-air? Experts say 'cockpit conversation is alarming'

The big question in Air India Crash: If pilots didn't cut fuel, what caused both engines to shut down mid-air? Experts say 'cockpit conversation is alarming'

Time of India9 hours ago
MUMBAI: The big questions are: If the pilots didn't cut off the fuel, then how did the fuel supply to both engines cut off during the most crucial phase of flight? Was it a technical problem with the Boeing 787 Dreamliner?
The 15-page preliminary report released by India's Aircraft Accident Investigation Bureau (AAIB) into the
Air India
AI-171 crash, which killed 270 people.
The report was made public in the early hours of Saturday.
You Can Also Check:
Mumbai AQI
|
Weather in Mumbai
|
Bank Holidays in Mumbai
|
Public Holidays in Mumbai
Fuel cut-off seconds after lift-off
About seven seconds after Air India flight AI-171 lifted off from Ahmedabad runway on June 12, the fuel to both engines of the Boeing 787 Dreamliner (VT-ANB) cut off. The shutdown happened within a time gap of one second.
"In the cockpit voice recording, one of the pilots is heard asking the other why he cut off the fuel supply. The other pilot responded that he did not do so."
This is the most critical piece of information in the report—fuel shut off seconds after take-off.
The only other logical possibility is one of the pilots cutting off the fuel supply and denying it. But the investigation veers toward an aircraft systems issue.
FAA warned of faulty fuel switch in 2018
The report refers to a 2018 Special Airworthiness Information Bulletin (SAIB) issued by the US Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), which warned of a fuel control switch locking malfunction in Boeing 787 aircraft.
by Taboola
by Taboola
Sponsored Links
Sponsored Links
Promoted Links
Promoted Links
You May Like
An engineer reveals: One simple trick to get internet without a subscription
Techno Mag
Learn More
Undo
However, the AAIB report states that Air India did not carry out the recommended inspection because it was advisory, not mandatory.
"As per the information from Air India, the suggested inspections were not carried out as the SAIB was advisory and not mandatory," the report said. Records indicate that VT-ANB underwent throttle control module replacements in 2019 and 2023, unrelated to fuel control switch faults, and no subsequent fuel control switch defects were documented after 2023, it added.
"At this stage of the investigation, no definitive cause has been determined, and no immediate safety recommendations have been issued to B787-8 or GEnx-1B engine operators," it said, adding that the Aircraft Accident Investigation Bureau (AAIB) of India, supported by NTSB-USA, Boeing, GE, FAA, and other international stakeholders, continues a detailed investigation focused on engineering, human factors, and system interactions.
TOI spoke to senior commanders and examiners, and they referred to another service bulletin issued jointly by FAA and GE (engine manufacturer) in 2021.
Service Bulletin FAA-2021-0273-0013 Attachment 2 recommends the replacement of the "MN4 microprocessor on ECU" with respect to engine fuel and control. It states: "This recommendation is to address a condition that may affect Flight Safety... Accumulated thermal cycles of the EEC with age causes the solder ball to fail."
Timeline of the crash
This is the sequence of events from the AAIB report:
08:07:37 UTC – Aircraft began take-off roll
08:08:33 UTC – Aircraft reached V1 speed (153 knots IAS) — the speed at which take-off must continue
08:08:35 UTC – Reached Vr speed (155 knots IAS) — pilots pulled back the control column
08:08:39 UTC – Air/ground sensors switched to 'air' mode — aircraft had lifted off
08:08:42 UTC – Aircraft reached maximum airspeed (180 knots IAS)
Immediately after – Engine 1 and 2 fuel cut-off switches moved from RUN to CUTOFF, one second apart
Engine parameters N1 and N2 began dropping as fuel supply ceased.\
Air India plane crash
"The CCTV footage obtained from the airport showed Ram Air Turbine (RAT) getting deployed during the initial climb immediately after lift-off. No significant bird activity is observed in the vicinity of the flight path. The aircraft started to lose altitude before crossing the airport perimeter wall," the report says.
Experienced crew on board
The commander had over 15,000 flying hours, including 8,600 on the B787, while the co-pilot had 3,400 hours.
The co-pilot was Pilot Flying (PF) and the captain was Pilot Monitoring (PM).
Possible link to microprocessor fault
Senior commanders TOI spoke to referred to another technical alert: a 2021 joint bulletin by the FAA and GE (the engine manufacturer), recommending replacement of the 'MN4 microprocessor' on the engine's Electronic Control Unit (ECU).
'This recommendation is to address a condition that may affect Flight Safety… Accumulated thermal cycles of the EEC with age causes the solder ball to fail.'
The ECU is the "brain" of the jet engine, controlling parameters like fuel flow and managing fault detection. The MN4 microprocessor interprets data and commands fuel metering valves.
One commander explained:
"The microprocessor is mounted on a Ball Grid Array (BGA), which uses tiny solder balls to attach the chip to the circuit board. As the aircraft flies, the engine experiences high temperature swings, constant vibration, and thermal cycling.
Over time, this causes fatigue cracks in the solder balls, leading to intermittent electrical connections, loss of signal processing, and potential engine control faults.
"
A failing microprocessor could result in dual engine shutdown—a catastrophic failure.
Questions about CVR, RAT, and Emergency Locator
Capt Amit Singh, an air safety expert, questioned the AAIB's timeline.
"The timeline given in the report is not tallying, especially after take-off when the RAT is shown deployed in the image, which means both engines have already failed.
It does not match with the engine failure timings given in the report," he said.
"What was happening in the ten seconds after the fuel cutoff switch was off? The report doesn't give information on the conversation in the cockpit. The two sentences from the CVR mentioned in the report about a pilot enquiring who cut off the fuel also don't carry a timestamp."
Capt Sam Thomas, President of the Airline Pilots' Association of India (APAI), said, "The conversation between the pilots enquiring who cut off the fuel control switch is alarming."
He also flagged another issue: the Emergency Locator Transmitter (ELT) failed to work.
"It should emit signals if the force of impact is between 3.2 to 3.5 G; the impact of the accident would have been exponentially higher."
Doubts over investigation expertise
Capt Thomas also questioned the makeup of the investigating team:
"Who is the expert in this group? It is assumed that some B787 Dreamliner pilots have been... Why the secrecy? We know pilots in India, and none of them have been consulted.
IAF pilots are not competent enough to investigate and understand modern aircraft operated by civilian airlines."
In response, the AAIB clarified:
"The investigation team comprising Mr. Sanjay Kumar Singh as Investigator-in-Charge, Mr. Jasbir Singh Larhga as chief investigator and Mr. Vipin Venu Varakoth, Mr. Veeraragavan K, and Mr. Vaishnav Vijayakumar as Investigators. Experienced Pilots, Engineers, Aviation Medicine Specialist, Aviation Psychologist and Flight Recorder Specialists have been taken on board as Subject Matter Experts (SMEs) to assist the Investigation in the area of their domain expertise.
"
Final report due in 2026
The final AAIB report is expected by June 12, 2026. For now, the root cause of the tragedy that took 270 lives remains undetermined.
"At this stage of the investigation, no definitive cause has been determined, and no immediate safety recommendations have been issued to B787-8 or GEnx-1B engine operators," the AAIB said.
India, along with the US National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB), Boeing, GE, FAA, and other global agencies, continues to examine engineering flaws, human factors, and aircraft systems that may have triggered the dual engine flameout just seconds into flight.
Orange background

Try Our AI Features

Explore what Daily8 AI can do for you:

Comments

No comments yet...

Related Articles

Google strikes $2.4 bn deal with Windsurf, to hire CEO Varun Mohan, get AI licensing rights after OpenAI talks collapse
Google strikes $2.4 bn deal with Windsurf, to hire CEO Varun Mohan, get AI licensing rights after OpenAI talks collapse

Mint

timean hour ago

  • Mint

Google strikes $2.4 bn deal with Windsurf, to hire CEO Varun Mohan, get AI licensing rights after OpenAI talks collapse

Google's parent company, Alphabet Inc., has finalised a $2.4 billion deal to recruit top executives and licensing rights of artificial intelligence startup Windsurf. The deal comes after talks between Windsurf and Google's competitor OpenAI stalled, news agency Bloomberg reported, citing people aware of the development. Google is recruiting Windsurf CEO Varun Mohan, co-founder Douglas Chen and a few staff members, who will join its DeepMind artificial intelligence team unit. Windsurf was previously set to finalise a deal with OpenAI for $3 billion; however, the deal was not finalised, partly due to tensions with Microsoft Corp., a major OpenAI investor, the report stated. Windsurf refused to grant Microsoft access to its intellectual property, and OpenAI was unable to secure the tech giant's agreement on this point. This is one of the points in the ongoing negotiations between Microsoft and OpenAI regarding the company's efforts to restructure into a commercial entity. Microsoft's existing agreement with OpenAI states that the software major has the right to access the startup's technology. Meanwhile, OpenAI believed it had reached an agreement with Windsurf and nearly announced the acquisition in early May. A letter of intent had been signed, and Windsurf investors were provided information on waterfall agreements and specifying how much money each party was expected to make, people aware of the development told Bloomberg. An OpenAI spokesperson on Friday stated that the exclusivity period for its acquisition offer has ended, allowing Windsurf to explore other bids. Google's latest deal comes amid a trend where major tech firms are acquiring executives and technology from emerging AI startups through agreements that fall short of full acquisitions. Critics argue that these arrangements are designed to avoid antitrust regulations. In 2024, Microsoft recruited the founders and a significant portion of the staff of Inflection AI, as well as licensing the company's artificial intelligence software. Similarly, Inc. recruited top executives and other employees from the startup Adept AI Labs Inc., while Google hired the co-founders of through a licensing agreement. Despite the structuring of these transactions, government regulatory authorities have initiated investigations into certain such arrangements. Windsurf, officially known as Exafunction Inc., is among a group of startups developing AI-powered coding assistants — systems capable of performing tasks like generating code from natural language prompts. Founded in 2021, Windsurf has secured over $200 million in venture capital, the report stated. (With inputs from Bloomberg)

"No stone should be left unturned,": Aviation safety firm's CEO on AI 171's crash report
"No stone should be left unturned,": Aviation safety firm's CEO on AI 171's crash report

Time of India

time2 hours ago

  • Time of India

"No stone should be left unturned,": Aviation safety firm's CEO on AI 171's crash report

Tired of too many ads? Remove Ads Tired of too many ads? Remove Ads Tired of too many ads? Remove Ads Martin Consulting's Chief Executive Officer (CEO) Mark D Martin, an aviation safety expert said on Saturday that "no stone should be left unturned," on investigating the AI 171 crash , and urged for the preliminary report to be "taken into the global quorum," so that international safety regulators could also understand the reasons for the Dreamliner 787-8's AI 171 crash of the Boeing Dreamliner 787-8 aircraft in Gujarat's Ahmedabad killed 260 people, including 229 passengers, 12 crew members, and 19 people on the said that one should wait for the full report to come out, but questioned certain aspects of the preliminary report which suggested pilot error , saying that it is "highly unlikely that any pilot, especially during take-off would want to meddle or fiddle around with switches behind the thrust levels.""This will be a complex crash to investigate for the NTSB (National Transportation Safety Board), AAIB (Aircraft Accident Investigation Board), Boeing, EASA (European Union Aviation Safety Agency), the Indian DGCA (Director General of Civil Aviation), and the UKCAA and no stone should be left unturned with this investigation," read a statement from the firm's CEO."It is imperative that this investigation also be taken into the global quorum with the including of ICAO (International Civil Aviation Organization), CAA Canada and other Safety oversight regulators that manage and oversee the 787 aircraft operation in their jurisdiction," the statement consulting firm's CEO also said that the report suggests pilot error, saying that "It is highly unlikely that any pilot, especially during takeoff would want to meddle or fiddle around with switches behind the thrust levels. At best, you'd focus on raising the landing gear which is located in the front panel of the cockpit, or raise the flaps."The AAIB's Preliminary Report released on Friday said that both the engines of the aircraft were moved from "run" to "cutoff," in quick succession, which resulted in the fuel supply to be cut off. The report says that in the cockpit voice recording, one of the pilots is heard asking the other why he did the cutoff, which the other pilot denied ever doing so."The aircraft achieved the maximum recorded airspeed of 180 Knots IAS at about 08:08:42 UTC and immediately thereafter, the Engine 1 and Engine 2 fuel cutoff switches transitioned from RUN to CUTOFF position one after another with a time gap of 01 sec. The Engine N1 and N2 began to decrease from their take-off values as the fuel supply to the engines was cut off," the preliminary report said."In the cockpit voice recording, one of the pilots is heard asking the other why did he cutoff. The other pilot responded that he did not do so," the report per the Enhanced Airborne Flight Recorder (EAFR) accessed by the AAIB, the engine 1's fuel cut switch transitioned from 'cutoff' to 'run' at about 8:08:52 UTC (Coordinated Universal Time). On 8:08:56 UTC the Engine 2's fuel switch also went from 'cutoff' to run'.According to the report, just 13 seconds later, at 8:09:05 UTC, one of the pilot transmitted the Mayday call, which the Air Traffic Control Officer (ATCO) enquired about, but did not receive a reply. Shortly after, the aircraft was observed crashing outside the airport boundary and the emergency response was Airline Pilots' Association of India on Saturday also called for a "fair, fact-based inquiry," into the incident and rejected the "tone and direction of the investigation" which suggested a bias towards pilot error."The report was leaked to media without any responsible official signature or attribution. There is lack of transparency in investigation as investigations continue to be shrouded in secrecy, undermining credibility and public trust. Qualified, experienced personnel, especially line pilots, are still not being included in the investigation team," the association said in a Minister of State for Civil Aviation Murlidhar Mohol urged people not to draw conclusions based on the preliminary report. While speaking to mediapersons, the MoS said, "The AAIB has brought out a preliminary report. This is not the final report. Until the final report comes out, we should not arrive at any conclusion. AAIB is an autonomous authority, and the ministry does not interfere in their work."

"Fault within aircraft that jet fuel switch turned off automatically": Civil aviation expert on AI171 preliminary crash report
"Fault within aircraft that jet fuel switch turned off automatically": Civil aviation expert on AI171 preliminary crash report

India Gazette

time2 hours ago

  • India Gazette

"Fault within aircraft that jet fuel switch turned off automatically": Civil aviation expert on AI171 preliminary crash report

New Delhi [India], July 12 (ANI): Civil aviation expert Sanat Kaul has said that the preliminary report by the Aircraft Accident Investigation Bureau (AAIB) on the Air India flight AI171 crash suggests that 'some fault within the aircraft' led to the jet fuel switches turning off automatically during takeoff, causing the tragic crash that killed 260 people, including 229 passengers, 12 crew members, and 19 people on the ground. Speaking to ANI, Kaul said the report indicates that fuel supply to the aircraft's engines was unexpectedly cut off during takeoff. 'From the report I have seen, there was no other reason for the aircraft to go down but the manufacturing part; the fuel to the engine itself switched off accidentally or there was something that the pilot or the co-pilot was not aware of and the engine lost the thrust,' Kaul said. 'It appears that the fuel was cut off on takeoff. The voice recorder makes it clear that neither the commander nor the co-pilot switched off the jet fuel switch. This is obviously some fault within the aircraft that the jet fuel switch turned off automatically,' he added. Kaul also raised concerns about aircraft manufacturer Boeing. 'In Boeing, it is not the first time; there were two instances of that new plane, which, after takeoff, again went down and crashed, and people died. In both these cases, it finally came out that the changes have been made in the max varieties of 737, and the pilot was not aware of the situation, and Boeing deliberately did not give training because training costs money, and they have to bear the cost,' he said. 'There have been whistleblowers from the ones who worked in the Boeing company who said that Boeing is trying to save money on manufacturing and safety aspects,' Kaul added. India's Aircraft Accident Investigation Bureau (AAIB) released the preliminary report into the tragic crash of Air India flight AI171, a Boeing 787-8 aircraft, which crashed shortly after takeoff from Ahmedabad's Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel International Airport on June 12. The report outlines a harrowing sequence of events that unfolded within 90 seconds of takeoff, as both engines of the aircraft shut down unexpectedly during the initial climb, leading to a catastrophic loss of thrust and rapid descent. Flight data recovered from the aircraft's Enhanced Airborne Flight Recorder (EAFR) revealed that the fuel cutoff switches for both engines were inadvertently moved from RUN to CUTOFF, one after the other within a 1-second interval, at an altitude just moments after liftoff. One pilot was heard asking the other, 'Why did you cut off?' to which the response was, 'I did not.' This uncommanded shutdown triggered the deployment of the Ram Air Turbine (RAT), and the aircraft began losing altitude almost immediately, unable to sustain powered flight. According to the AAIB, the pilots re-engaged the fuel switches in an attempt to relight both engines. Engine 1 showed signs of recovering thrust, but Engine 2 failed to stabilise. The aircraft, which had briefly reached a speed of 180 knots, was already descending and failed to regain altitude. The final distress call -- a 'MAYDAY' -- was transmitted at 08:09 UTC, just seconds before the aircraft crashed into residential buildings outside the airport perimeter. The aircraft struck several buildings, including the BJ Medical College hostel, causing significant structural and fire damage across five structures. The Emergency Locator Transmitter (ELT) did not activate, and emergency services were mobilised within five minutes of the crash. The wreckage trail extended over 1,000 feet, with major components including the vertical stabiliser, engines, and landing gear found embedded in buildings and scattered across the crash site. The aircraft, registered VT-ANB, was delivered in 2013 and had recently undergone routine maintenance. All Airworthiness Directives had been complied with, and the fuel quality was confirmed to be within specifications. There were no reported technical defects linked to the engines or flight control systems immediately before the accident. The pilot-in-command, a 56-year-old with over 15,000 flying hours, and the co-pilot, 32, with over 3,400 hours, were both fully qualified and had no recent duty irregularities or medical issues reported. (ANI)

DOWNLOAD THE APP

Get Started Now: Download the App

Ready to dive into a world of global content with local flavor? Download Daily8 app today from your preferred app store and start exploring.
app-storeplay-store