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Tony Roth, chief investment officer at Wilmington Trust, speaks with CNBC's Jeff Cox about the current state of play in the financial markets and the economy, with Tony emphasizing the importance of non-U.S. assets amid a time of elevated uncertainty over trade policy and the Fed's approach to interest rates. Along the way, he also fields questions from CNBC Pro subscribers.
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