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Frederic Mishkin: There's permanent damage to a trusted system

Frederic Mishkin: There's permanent damage to a trusted system

CNBC15-05-2025

Frederic Mishkin, former Fed governor, joins CNBC's 'Squawk on the Street' to discuss outlooks on long term yields, the potential economic fallout of Trump's trade policies, and more.

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