logo
A Conclave Like No Other

A Conclave Like No Other

New York Times04-05-2025
There are so many unfamiliar faces, cardinals are wearing name tags. The Vatican guesthouse for out-of-towners coming to choose the next pope is overbooked. Daily Vatican meetings have taken on the feel of theological speed-dating sessions.
'The cardinals don't know each other so well,' said Cardinal Anders Arborelius of Sweden, who has spent recent days in a crowded Vatican lecture hall listening to the concerns and learning the names of the record number of cardinals Pope Francis appointed who will choose his successor.
Cardinal Arborelius sat in a section reserved for a small group of newcomers from countries that never had cardinals before. They included one from Mali, who, he said, had 'disappeared' after the first day, and from Laos, who, many days into the meetings, 'hasn't turned up.' He himself, he said, felt 'lost all the time.'
Nevertheless, he and scores of other cardinals will file into the Sistine Chapel starting Wednesday afternoon to cast ballots for the next pope under seclusion and Michelangelo's frescoes, in one of the world's oldest dramas.
All papal elections are unpredictable. But this conclave has so many unfamiliar faces with unfamiliar politics, priorities and concerns that it could be more fractious than usual.
It also comes at a particularly perilous moment for a church that Francis left deeply divided, with progressive factions pushing for more inclusion and change, and conservatives seeking to roll things back, often under the guise of unity.
The first pope in centuries from outside Europe, Francis expanded the church's global reach to better reflect the faith's diversity. The conclave that chose him 12 years ago had 115 cardinals from 48 countries. This conclave is expected to have 133 voting-age cardinals (those under 80), representing about 70 countries. The new pope will need at least 89 votes.
Some cardinals are quietly holding spin sessions in the backrooms of churches and book-lined apartments or under the ornate chandeliers of religious orders. Vatican officials, experts, insiders and waiters — and even gossip columnists who usually specialize in socialites behaving badly — all claim to have an inside track on the dynamics taking shape about the obvious and clandestine candidates, chatty kingmakers, veteran operators and youngish impressionables.
In reality, no one knows who will emerge on the balcony overlooking St. Peter's Square after the white smoke signals the cardinals have made their pick.
The crowded hall makes for more 'anonymous' members, without strong international leaders, or even national blocs, said Andrea Riccardi, the founder of the Sant'Egidio Community, a Catholic group close to Francis and to some of the Italian cardinals seen as having a shot at becoming pope.
The result, he said, is a fragmenting of alliances and more of an assembly dynamic that 'benefits the well known' and allows for more 'moral pressure from, let's call them, older people.'
One of the most pressing questions before the cardinals will be whether to go farther up the road Francis pointed to, or to decide to bring the papacy 'home' to Europe.
The early favorites reflect those tensions. Among them are Cardinal Pietro Parolin, 70, an Italian who was the Vatican's secretary of state under Francis. He is seen as someone who might be able to straddle both moderate and more liberal camps, though is apparently objectionable to conservatives. In the days before the conclave, a right-wing Catholic publication from the United States blasted out the rumor that he had fainted in the hall. The Vatican said it was a lie.
Another oft-mentioned contender is Cardinal Luis Antonio Tagle, 67, of the Philippines, who embodies the impulse for a progressive from the church's expanding realms. And finally, Pierbattista Pizzaballa, 60, the Italian Patriarch of Jerusalem, who like Francis is known for his pastoral sensibility, but who is, again, Italian.
'There are three everyone knows: Parolin, Tagle and Pizzaballa,' said Cardinal Arborelius, who is himself sometimes mentioned as a possible pope, and who called himself part of a 'very special group' of newcomers.
The Newbies
Not everyone is thrilled with the acceleration of geographic diversity and the new crop entrusted to decide the future of the Roman Catholic Church.
Cardinal Gerhard Ludwig Müller of Germany, a conservative who used to run the church's office on doctrine before Francis fired him from that job, recalled a meeting during Francis' pontificate when one of the new guys — 'a cardinal of 25 Catholics in an isle in the South Sea' — came into a subcommittee meeting.
'He said three things,' Cardinal Müller said. 'First, I don't speak English. Second, I know nothing of theology. And third, I didn't know why they made me cardinal. Now he is a voter of the pope.'
Conservatives complain that Francis stacked the college with cardinals far over its customary 120 members. He passed over archbishops in Western capitals, positions sometimes held by conservatives, to create a more global college that reflected his pastoral vision and bottom-up view of the church.
But it is not clear that all the cardinals Francis created are in his mold. On hot-button political issues dear to Western liberals, like inclusion of L.G.B.T.Q. Catholics and women, they can be more conservative.
Some close allies of Francis waved away the concern.
'You can find opposition figures in every country in which he made cardinals,' said Cardinal Michael Czerny, a Canadian progressive and Jesuit who was a close adviser to Francis, noting the pope had passed them over. 'I don't think he is choosing people who disagree with him completely.'
Other cardinals privately worried the new members of the college might get star-struck by the big names or would be easily manipulated by Vatican power players, resulting in a quick conclave that elects a favorite.
On the other hand, the newcomers, having yet to forge alliances, could be hard to herd, attenuating the voting.
The Italians
There is a feeling among some in the room that 'now we need an Italian pope,' noted Cardinal Arborelius, the newcomer from Sweden. Other cardinals, too, have noticed the Italians seem to be suffering papal withdrawal.
'For how long have they not had a pope?' Cardinal Juan José Omella of Barcelona said with a smile.
The answer: 47 years. Forever, in Italian time.
After Adrian VI, a pope from Holland, died in 1523, the Italians held a tight grip on papal power for 455 years until John Paul II of Poland emerged from the conclave in 1978. He was succeeded by Benedict XVI from Germany, and then Francis from Argentina.
The Italian cardinals, often fractured by ideological, personal and cultural conflicts, traditionally do not vote as a bloc. Some backers of non-Italian candidates argue that is still the case.
But a reduction in the Italian ranks by Francis may prompt more cohesion than usual among the remaining 17 Italian voting cardinals, church insiders say.
With about 12 percent of the total vote, they remain the largest national group, and they have strong candidates and kingmakers among them.
But some church traditionalists argue that doctrine and theology should outrank all other considerations. To them, the Italian effort to bring the papacy home is silly.
''One of us,'' Cardinal Müller said, mocking the Italian rallying cry. 'It's childish.'
The Unlikely Allies
There are no shortage of potential coalitions.
Voting blocs may form around geography, ideology, language or cultural sensitivities. Or around priorities like financial transparency or doctrinal issues. They may even form around old-fashioned score-settling or antagonisms.
Some Vatican officials said the Asian cardinals were considered well organized and tight-knit, making themselves a powerful bloc that could join with more progressive Americans and South Americans who do not want an Italian, for instance.
Instead, the speculation goes, they could line up behind someone like Cardinal Tagle of the Philippines.
To do that, they would have to override the likely objections of conservatives who have rolled their eyes at Cardinal Tagle weeping when he received his red cardinal's hat from Pope Benedict in 2012 or videos widely shared recently of him dancing in a church and singing 'Imagine' by John Lennon.
'He cries,' Cardinal Müller said with a shrug, adding that he considered the Filipino 'extroverted.'
Conservatives appointed by the previous pontificates are considered a cohesive group, even if they do not have decisive numbers. Some liberal cardinals worry the conservatives will seek a force multiplier by looking to Africa.
Africa is home to one of the church's most booming Catholic populations, and to some of its most conservative cardinals, many of whom are deeply opposed to inclusion of L.G.B.T.Q. Catholics.
The most frequently cited candidate from Africa is Cardinal Fridolin Ambongo Besungu, of the Democratic Republic of Congo. He was a favorite of Francis, who appreciated his pastoral pedigree.
But he opposed a rule change Francis made permitting blessings of same-sex unions. Instead, he has pushed other priorities, like pastoral care for polygamists.
The emphasis does not thrill European conservatives, and the question is whether they are willing to overlook it to advance other priorities.
It has also infuriated liberals who call for more inclusion of L.G.B.T.Q. Catholics and women in the church, and who see a clear, politically motivated, double standard.
'Which is more widespread? Polygamy or homosexuality?' said the Rev. James Martin, an American who personally received encouragement from Francis for his ministry to L.G.B.T.Q. Catholics. 'Why does one deserve pastoral consideration and the other condemnation?'
Cardinal Ambongo is hardly the most conservative African cardinal. Cardinal Robert Sarah of Guinea led the resistance to Francis and is feared by liberals who see him as someone who would yank the church backward.
'I can think of some African cardinals — they make me shudder,' Cardinal Czerny said. Asked whether conservatives were rallying behind an African pope as a Trojan Horse to further their agenda, Cardinal Czerny said, 'Certainly, certainly, certainly, and that's why,' he added, 'it's so, so, so stupid to say things like Africa's time has come.'
Some progressives argue that, instead, the church should look east. Conservatives charge that a tacit progressive prejudice against Africa may be behind the pivot to Asia.
'Asia!' Cardinal Müller said. 'I think there's hidden prejudices that Africa is not so developed. Nobody would say it, but deep in the heart, no?'
Orange background

Try Our AI Features

Explore what Daily8 AI can do for you:

Comments

No comments yet...

Related Articles

Russia: We must have veto power over Ukraine security guarantees
Russia: We must have veto power over Ukraine security guarantees

Yahoo

time39 minutes ago

  • Yahoo

Russia: We must have veto power over Ukraine security guarantees

Russia will only agree to security guarantees for Ukraine if it has the ability to veto them, its foreign minister has said. Sergei Lavrov said that any attempt to bolster Ukrainian security that did not involve Moscow was a 'road to nowhere' and 'will not work'. Mr Lavrov said a 'very good example' of a potential blueprint could be found in the Istanbul framework of 2022. Under a draft discussed at the time, Ukraine would have received guarantees from a group of countries including the five permanent members of the UN Security Council - China, Russia, the United States, Britain and France. Kyiv rejected the proposal as it would have given Moscow veto power over its national security. On Tuesday, Donald Trump hinted the US could provide air support to a peacekeeping force made up from European militaries. The Kremlin has already rejected the idea of Nato troops inside Ukraine and is almost certain to oppose Western air forces being able to operate near its borders. Last week, Sir Keir Starmer and his European counterparts said 'no limitations should be placed on Ukraine's armed forces or its cooperation with third countries.' In his remarks at a joint news conference alongside Jordan's foreign minister, Mr Lavrov also accused European leaders of making a ' to manipulate Donald Trump into line with their 'aggressive' position on Ukraine. 06:38 PM BST That's all for now Thank you for following today's live coverage of the war in Ukraine. We'll be back soon with more updates and analysis from the conflict. 06:16 PM BST Lithuania would contribute troops, equipment to any Ukraine peacekeeping mission, says president Lithuania would contribute troops and equipment to any Ukraine peacekeeping mission, its president said on Wednesday. In a televised interview, Gitanas Nauseda said: 'We are ready to contribute as many troops as the parliament allows for peacekeeping, and also military equipment'. It comes amid accelerated diplomatic efforts to end the war, as western countries are discuss the possibility of sending peacekeeping troops to Ukraine in the event of a peace deal between Moscow and Kyiv. 05:27 PM BST Nato defence chiefs hold 'candid discussion' on security guarantees for Ukraine Nato defence chiefs held a 'candid discussion' Wednesday about what security guarantees they could offer Kyiv to help forge a peace agreement to end the war in Ukraine, a senior alliance official said. Italian Admiral Giuseppe Cavo Dragone, the chair of Nato's Military Committee, said that 32 defence chiefs from across the alliance held a video conference amid a US-led diplomatic to end the fighting. He said there was a 'great, candid discussion' in the call. 'I thanked everyone for their always proactive participation in these meetings: we are united, and that unity was truly tangible today, as always,' he wrote on X without providing further details. Assurances that it won't be invaded again in the future are one of the keys for getting Ukraine to sign up for a peace deal with Russia. 04:54 PM BST Russian drone fell in eastern Poland, Warsaw says A Russian drone crashed in a field in eastern Poland, according to early findings, Polish officials said on Wednesday. The drone hit and scorched a cornfield in the village of Osiny in the eastern Lublin province overnight, just over 62 miles from the Ukrainian border and around 90 km from Belarus. Officials initially said the explosion may have been caused by a part of an old engine with a propeller. Poland has been on high alert for objects entering its airspace since a stray Ukrainian missile struck a southern Polish village in 2022, killing two people. Earlier, we reported that Wladyslaw Kosiniak-Kamysz, Poland's defence minister, described the incident as a provocation (see post at 3:54pm). 04:41 PM BST Pictured: Aftermath of strike in Donetsk 03:54 PM BST Russia is provoking Nato countries, says Polish minister Russia is again provoking Nato countries, Poland's defence minister said on Wednesday. The spurn by Wladyslaw Kosiniak-Kamysz came after an official said the object that landed overnight in a cornfield in eastern Poland may have been a Russian version of the Shahed drone. 'Once again, we are dealing with a provocation by the Russian Federation, with a Russian drone. We are dealing in a crucial moment, when discussions about peace (in Ukraine) are underway,' Mr Kosiniak-Kamysz told journalists. 03:43 PM BST At least three killed by Russian strikes in Donetsk, says governor At least three people have been killed in Ukraine's eastern Donetsk region, its governor said on Wednesday. Vadym Filashkin said four people were also injured when eight Russian Smerch missiles hit the city of Kostyantynivka. 'I emphasise once again: it is dangerous to stay in the Donetsk region! The Russians are deliberately striking in such a way as to kill and maim as many civilians as possible,' said Mr Filashkin. 03:22 PM BST Government: New UK sanctions target 'circumvention and crypto networks exploited by Russia' Britain on Wednesday sanctioned financial networks it said were being used by Russia to evade existing Western sanctions, including Kyrgyz crypto networks, as it ramps up pressure on Moscow over the war in Ukraine. The sanctions against eight individuals and entities also target the infrastructure behind A7A5, a rouble-pegged stablecoin launched in Kyrgyzstan which Britain said had moved $9.3 billion (£6.9 billion) in four months. 'If the Kremlin thinks they can hide their desperate attempts to soften the blow of our sanctions by laundering transactions through dodgy crypto networks – they are sorely mistaken,' said Stephen Doughty, British sanctions minister. 03:02 PM BST Lavrov: Clumsy Europe trying to manipulate Trump Europe is making a 'clumsy' attempt to manipulate Donald Trump on Ukraine, Russia's foreign minister has said. Sergei Lavrov accused European leaders of trying to bend the US president into line with their 'aggressive' position at the extraordinary White House summit on Monday. Mr Lavrov said that nevertheless the US had an 'increasingly clear understanding of the root causes' of the conflict in Ukraine. Following his meeting with Vladimir Putin in Alaska last week, Mr Trump called on Ukraine to make territorial concessions for peace - but he dropped the demand after Sir Keir Starmer, Emmanuel Macron and Mark Rutte, the Nato secretary general, flew into Washington among a delegation of European leaders. There was jubilation in Western capitals that they managed to secure Mr Trump's support for US security guarantees in Ukraine, which he said will likely involve air support. Mr Lavrov said Russia is in favour of 'reliable' security guarantees for Kyiv, but warned Washington that discussing the terms of that assistance without consulting Moscow is a 'road to nowhere'. It came as Europe fleshes out its plans to provide boots on the ground in Ukraine in the event of a peace deal, with sources suggesting up to 10 European countries are 'ready' to contribute to a peacekeeping force. 02:52 PM BST Russia bars entry to 21 people it says spread disinformation against it in UK media Russia has barred 21 individuals it accused of working with 'the destructive British media' to promote anti-Russian narratives, it said on Wednesday. The list includes journalists, experts and members of NGOs. Their names were added to those of many hundreds of other Western nationals whom Russia has placed on its 'stop list' since the start of the war in Ukraine. Britain on Wednesday said it was imposing new sanctions on cryptocurrency networks it said were exploited by Russia. 01:43 PM BST Pictured: Ukraine mourns its fallen soldiers 01:19 PM BST Erdogan tells Putin Turkey supports Ukraine peace effort Turkey supports efforts to establish a permanent peace in Ukraine with the participation of all parties, the president's office has said. In a phone call to Vladimir Putin on Wednesday, Tayyip Erdogan also said he was closely following developments related to the process, and that Turkey had strived for a just peace since the beginning of the war, it said. Moscow's readout of the call said that Mr Putin expressed Russia's appreciation of Turkey's efforts to facilitate talks between Russian and Ukrainian representatives in Istanbul. 12:56 PM BST Ten European countries 'ready' to send forces to Ukraine About 10 European countries are ready to send forces to Ukraine as part of security guarantees for the country following a peace deal, according to reports. On Tuesday, European officials fleshed out the plan to send a multinational 'reassurance force' to deter future Russian aggression and now await Donald Trump's approval, Bloomberg reported, citing people familiar with the matter. The first stage would allegedly include European troops – including hundreds of British and French soldiers – being stationed in Ukraine, away from the front line, to help its military with training and reinforcements. A later stage of the plan calls for a US backstop to contribute to intelligence sharing, border surveillance, weapons supplies and possibly air defence. The overall size and the role the European force will play is still unclear, but details are expected to be agreed in the coming days. On Tuesday, Mr Trump ruled out putting American boots on the ground once a peace deal is signed, but instead suggested the US was prepared to provide air support to police Ukraine's skies. 'When it comes to security, they're willing to put people on the ground,' Mr Trump told Fox News, referring to Europe. 'We're willing to help them with things, especially – probably you could talk about by air, because there's nobody that has the kind of stuff we have.' The extent of US assistance remains murky, but at a minimum European officials expect Washington to provide intelligence and weaponry through European partners, Bloomberg reported. 12:27 PM BST Pope calls for fasting and prayer for peace in Ukraine and Middle East Pope Leo XIV has called for a day of 'prayer and fasting' to help usher in peace in Ukraine and Middle East. As he returned from summer vacation, the pontiff recalled that Friday is a special feast day dedicated to the Virgin Mary. He asked the Catholic faith to spend the day fasting and 'praying that the Lord grants peace and justice, and dries the tears of all those who are suffering as a result of the armed conflicts underway.' 'Mary is the Mother of the faithful here on earth and is remembered as the Queen of Peace,' the pope added. 'May Mary, Queen of Peace, intercede so that peoples may find the path of peace.' 11:49 AM BST Nato military chiefs to discuss Ukraine security guarantees Nato military chiefs are set to iron out the details of future security guarantees for Ukraine, pushing ahead the flurry of global diplomacy aiming to broker a peace deal. The virtual meeting between military chiefs from the alliance's 32 member states is due to start at a 1.30pm BST. But few details have been leaked on what will be discussed. Last night, US General Dan Caine, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, held talks with European military chiefs on the 'best options for a potential Ukraine peace deal,' a US defence official told AFP. 11:44 AM BST Pictured: Ukrainian school destroyed in overnight Russian attack 11:38 AM BST Russia says it captured three villages in eastern Ukraine Russian defence ministry said its forces had captured three settlements in eastern Ukraine. Moscow claimed control of the villages of Novoheorhiivka, Pankivka and Sukhetse as its troops continue their grinding advance in the Donetsk region as parts of its renewed summer offensive. The Telegraph cannot independently confirm the reports, which Ukraine has not commented on. 11:07 AM BST The numbers that show Russia is years from victory Donald Trump's message – or rather, the message he transmitted from Vladimir Putin – to Volodymyr Zelensky in Washington on Monday was stark: accept the deal Russia is offering, because otherwise you'll lose the war. But if Moscow appears strong now, Ukraine and its European allies believe, it's partly because Trump's choices have made it stronger – namely, his decisions to curtail US military aid, interrupt intelligence sharing and, above all, accept Putin's insistence on a peace deal before a ceasefire. And in fact, Russia is far from battlefield supremacy. Just hours before the Oval Office discussions, the British Ministry of Defence (MoD) declared it would take 4.4 years of fighting at current rates of advance for Russia to capture the remainder of territory it has 'annexed'. It would also, according to the MoD calculations based on Ukrainian estimates of Russian casualties, cost Russia an additional 1.93m killed and wounded to achieve Putin's goals. That would be on top of the more than one million casualties it has already sustained. In other words, Russia could be headed for breaking points of its own. 10:31 AM BST Peace in Ukraine 'never been closer', says security minister Peace between Ukraine and Russia is closer than ever in the wake of the Alaska summit and Washington talks, a minister has declared. Dan Jarvis, the security minister, said the conflict had reached a 'pivotal moment' and the chances of an end to the fighting were the best since the Russian invasion in Feb 2022 Asked if he was uncomfortable with 'kowtowing' to Donald Trump during the past week, Mr Jarvis told Sky News: 'I'd describe it as diplomacy. I'd describe it as the best strategy to try to get a peace settlement. It's in all of our interests, certainly the people of Ukraine but certainly in our own national interest, to bring this terrible conflict in Ukraine to an end. 'I think the summit in Alaska was very helpful in bringing things forward, the Prime Minister chaired a meeting just the other day with 30 international leaders, the coalition of the willing, so it feels to me like we are closer to peace than we have been at any point in the conflict. 'But we've got to drive that forward, we've got to get an agreement in place and we've got to put in place a long-term enduring peace settlement. That is obviously in the interests of Ukraine, of wider European security, but it's in our own security interests as well.' He added: 'This feels to me like a pivotal moment. We are closer to peace than we have been at any point recently. And the UK Government, the Prime Minister's been clear about this, will be wanting to play our full part in terms of securing that peace.' 10:00 AM BST Three civilians killed, 34 injured over past day in Russian attacks At least three civilians have been killed and 34 injured in Russian strikes across Ukraine over the past day, according to regional authorities. According to Ukraine's air force, Russian forces overnight launched 93 Shahed-type attack and decoy drones, along with two Iskander-M ballistic missiles. At least 62 drones and one missile were intercepted, while the remaining strikes hit 20 locations. In the central Dnipropetrovsk region, Russian attacks killed one person and injured another. In Sumy, Russian forces attacked more than 52 settlements, injuring 16 people, including two children. Another two civilians were killed in the Donetsk and Kharkiv regions. 09:44 AM BST Pictured: Firefighters battle blazes in Sumy 09:32 AM BST Europe preparing fresh sanctions on Russia if Putin refuses trilateral meeting The Telegraph understands the UK and European Union are preparing new sanctions on Russia, which could be triggered if Putin refuses to attend three-way talks with Mr Zelensky and Mr Trump. A senior Government source said: 'If Putin was to delay, prevaricate, or refuse to talk that would provide another impetus for sanctions.' Mr Zelensky called for sanctions to be levied if Putin refused to take part in a trilateral summit ahead of his Washington trip. The approach would build pressure on Moscow to agree to the meeting. Government sources have noted that Putin only agreed to meet Mr Trump in Alaska after the US president hit India with sanctions for continuing to buy cheap Russian oil. 09:22 AM BST Russia targeted 'homes of families and sleeping children' in Sumy strike At least 14 people, including a family with three children, were wounded in an overnight Russian attack on Ukraine's Sumy region, the country's prime minister said this morning. 'Russia continues to manifest its fears through acts of pure terrorism across Ukraine, once again targeting the homes of families and their sleeping children,' Yulia Svyrydenko said. 09:03 AM BST Mysterious object explodes in field in eastern Poland An unidentified object fell into a cornfield and exploded overnight in the village of Osiny in eastern Poland's Lublin province, which borders Ukraine, police said on Wednesday. The blast shattered windows in several homes, but nobody was injured, the report said. Police officers found burnt metal and plastic debris at the site, it added. Air raid sirens rang out for about an hour over the border in Ukraine's Volyn and Lviv regions from around 10am BST, however their governors reported no air attacks. The Polish army said there was no violation of Polish airspace recorded last night from either Ukraine or Belarus. 'We are trying to establish what the object could be. Police and firefighters are on the scene,' Marek Jozwik, a police spokesman, said. 08:52 AM BST Mapped: Plans for a post-war Ukraine 08:47 AM BST British troops 'will be thinking about serving in Ukraine' British troops will be thinking about the prospect of serving in Ukraine in the future, the security minister has said. Dan Jarvis, a former Army officer who served in Iraq and Afghanistan, was asked what his friends who are still in the Army would make of the prospect of British boots on the ground following a peace deal. He told Sky: 'I obviously need to be very careful not to set any hares running and we're not at that point and absolutely no decisions have been made. But your point is a good and a fair one. Clearly, those people who serve in our Armed Forces will be thinking about the situation in Ukraine and both they and their families will be wondering about what that might bring in the future. 'We have to be incredibly mindful of that. We are extremely fortunate to have the best Armed Forces in the world, they are extremely capable. And the Prime Minister and the Defence Secretary have been crystal clear that we have to play our part in making sure a peace settlement is enforced for the long term.' 08:37 AM BST Pictured: A child flees the fighting near Pokrovsk 08:21 AM BST How Finland became a key player in Ukraine peace negotiations Donald Trump could not find the president of Finland among the gathered European leaders at his White House summit on Ukraine. 'I'm right here,' a smiling Alexander Stubb said from his seat at the top table opposite the US president and next to Volodymyr Zelensky. 'Oh, you look better than I've ever seen you look,' Mr Trump shot back instantly to his counterpart. There were more compliments to come for the 'young, powerful man' leading Finland, which has emerged as a crucial player in the Ukraine peace negotiations despite being a nation of only 5.6 million people. 'Some of the international media might wonder why is the president of Finland here?' Mr Stubb said as he sat with the leaders of the UK, France, Germany, Italy, the European Commission, Nato, Ukraine and the US. 'I think the reason is probably that we might come from a small country, but we have a long border with Russia, over 800 miles,' he told reporters. 'And we, of course, have our own historical experience with Russia from World War Two.' 08:10 AM BST Watch: Fire rages at Odesa fuel plant after Russian drone strike Credit: State Emergency Service of Ukraine in the Odesa region 08:00 AM BST Russian drone strike on Sumy injures 12, including children A Russian drone attack on a city in Ukraine's northeastern Sumy region has left 12 people injured, including two children, according to local authorities. The strike on Okhtyrka was part of a large-scale overnight drone barrage targeting civilian infrastructure across the country, Ukraine's national police said, reporting significant damage to residential homes, apartment blocks, and other buildings. Energy infrastructure was also targeted in the southern Odesa region. The Sumy region, which borders Ukraine, has come under heavy bombardment in recent months after Russia launched a new offensive in June to carve out a 'buffer zone' in the territory. Moscow has proposed withdrawing its troops from Sumy and the neighbouring Kharkiv region in exchange for full control of the eastern Donbas region, which it only partly occupies. The offer was reportedly discussed at Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin's summit in Alaska last Friday. 07:49 AM BST Putin pitches Moscow for Zelensky meeting Vladimir Putin reportedly pushed for Moscow as a venue for his expected bilateral meeting with Volodymyr Zelensky. On a call with Donald Trump on Monday, the Russian leader 'mentioned Moscow', a source told AFP. Mr Zelensky said 'no' in response, the source added. On Tuesday, the Swiss foreign minister promised 'immunity' to Putin if he chose to visit Geneva for peace talks. Italy and France have backed the Swiss capital as the location for the high-stakes summit. The White House is allegedly considering Budapest, Hungary's capital, as a venue for possible trilateral meeting with Mr Trump and the Russian and Ukrainian leaders following their one-on-one talks. 07:37 AM BST Telegraph View: Ukraine's fate is still deeply uncertain In tone, this meeting between Donald Trump and Volodymyr Zelensky was a considerable improvement on February's. In substantive content, a great deal remains unclear. The two fundamental questions of this conflict remain unresolved: where will the borders between Russia and Ukraine lie when Moscow's terrible war of aggression ends, and how can Kyiv's and Europe's security be guaranteed in the future? Everything else is of secondary importance. Russia continues to assert belligerent claims to territory including some still held by Ukraine, with Vladimir Putin insistent that the whole of Donetsk and Luhansk be ceded despite the failure of his forces to make progress. Mr Zelensky has correctly stated that the constitution of Ukraine forbids any such formal concessions of land without a referendum. Mr Trump has hinted that he may prefer to follow 'the current line of contact'. The tragic reality is that some territorial concessions on Kyiv's part are now effectively deemed a given, including in Europe. The only question is how much, where, and the legal status of the lost land. There is a possible future in which a negotiated border becomes a diplomatic fact, but not one which is formally acknowledged. 07:31 AM BST Pictured: Russia launches 'massive' overnight strikes on Odesa Russia launched a 'massive drone strike' on the southern Ukrainian region of Odesa, injuring one person and causing a large fire at a fuel and energy facility, Ukraine's State Emergency Service said this morning. Port infrastructure in the city of Odesa was also damaged. 07:16 AM BST Hello and welcome to our live coverage We're bringing you all the latest from the war in Ukraine and the ongoing diplomatic efforts to achieve a peace deal. Broaden your horizons with award-winning British journalism. Try The Telegraph free for 1 month with unlimited access to our award-winning website, exclusive app, money-saving offers and more. Solve the daily Crossword

Pope Leo must stand up to Muslim immigrants seeking to remake Europe
Pope Leo must stand up to Muslim immigrants seeking to remake Europe

New York Post

timean hour ago

  • New York Post

Pope Leo must stand up to Muslim immigrants seeking to remake Europe

As Muslim migration roils Europe, some Catholic bishops are starting to notice. 'For decades, the Islamization of Europe has been progressing through mass immigration,' Polish Bishop Antoni Długosz said July 13, adding that illegal immigrants 'create serious problems in the countries they arrive in.' Bishop Athanasius Schneider of Kazakhstan spoke more bluntly in March: 'We're witnessing an invasion. They are not refugees. This is an invasion, a mass Islamization of Europe.' Advertisement Yet Pope Leo XIV lives in a different dimension. 'In a world darkened by war and injustice . . . migrants and refugees stand as messengers of hope,' Leo said July 25. 'Their courage and tenacity bear heroic testimony to a faith that sees beyond what our eyes can see and gives them the strength to defy death on the various contemporary migration routes.' Leo's comments express more than blissful sentimentality. They reveal the Vatican's role in encouraging open borders and exempting migrants from accountability. Advertisement In Europe's case, that involves deliberate blindness to the violent, totalitarian nature of Islam and many of its followers. This Catholic approach toward Islam reflects the ideas of Louis Massignon, a French scholar from the early 20th century. Massignon described Islam as 'the faith of Abraham revived with Muhammad,' and asserted that Muslims 'have the right to equality among the monotheisms descended from Abraham.' French Catholic scholar Alain Besançon described the results. 'An entire literature favorable to Islam has grown up in Europe, much of it the work of Catholic priests under the sway of Massignon's ideas,' he wrote. Advertisement Asylum seekers from Afghanistan set up tents inside of the Church of Saint John the Baptist at the Beguinage in Brussels on Jan. 7, 2014. REUTERS/Francois Lenoir Besançon attributed that posture to 'an underlying dissatisfaction with modernity, and with our liberal, capitalist, individualistic arrangements,' a dissatisfaction that the Vatican embodies. 'Alarmed by the ebbing of religious faith in the Christian West, and particularly in Europe,' Massignon's advocates 'cannot but admire Muslim devoutness,' Besançon wrote. 'Surely, they reason, it is better to believe in something than to believe in nothing, and since these Muslims believe in something, they must believe in the same thing we do.' Advertisement The Catholic Church officially embraced Massignon's ideas at the Second Vatican Council in two documents. One, Nostra Aetate, focused on the church's relationship with Judaism but additionally addressed Islam: 'The Church regards with esteem the Muslims. They adore the one God . . . they take pains to submit wholeheartedly to even His inscrutable decrees, just as Abraham, with whom the faith of Islam takes pleasure in linking itself, submitted to God. Though they do not acknowledge Jesus as God, they revere Him as a prophet.' The other, Lumen Gentium, declared that 'the plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator. In the first place among these there are the Muslims, who, professing to hold the faith of Abraham, along with us adore the one and merciful God.' That passage made the Catholic catechism. But what Besançon called 'indulgent ecumenicism' toward Islam goes beyond words. During John Paul II's papacy, the church embraced outright appeasement. Catholic bishops sold underutilized churches and schools to Muslim groups; many of the churches became mosques. In October 2006, the Capuchin Franciscan friars agreed to help the Union of Islamic Communities and Organizations in Italy (UCOII) build a mosque in Genoa next to a monastery. The friars even helped build the mosque's foundation. Advertisement But the UCOII — affiliated with the Muslim Brotherhood — advocates 'an extremist version of the Quran, where Christians, Jews and Westerners are criminalized, as well as women and other Muslims who don't submit to their rule,' Magdi Allam, a convert to Catholicism from Islam, reported for Milan's Corriere della Sera. In 2006, the group also demanded Islamic schools, banks and clerical review of textbooks. Its president, Mohamed Nour Dachan, refused to sign a document pledging Muslims to accept Italy's constitution, denounce terrorism and recognize Israel's right to exist. Seven months earlier, a Vatican cardinal even suggested that Muslim students receive Islamic religious instruction in the hour reserved for Catholic instruction in Italian schools. Advertisement 'If there are 100 Muslim children in a school, I don't see why they shouldn't be taught their religion,' said the late Cardinal Renato Martino, then the president of the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace. 'If we said 'no' until we saw equivalent treatment for the Christian minorities in Muslim countries, I would say that we were placing ourselves on their level.' In 2008, the Catholic bishops of England and Wales asked Catholic schools to reserve prayer rooms for Muslim students and to adapt bathroom facilities for ritual cleansing before prayer. But the worst example of appeasement took place in Belgium. As part of a campaign to force the government to grant amnesty, Belgium's Catholic bishops turned their churches into homes for Muslim migrants, making them squatters. An Afghan refugee seen at the altar of the Church of Saint John the Baptist at the Beguinage on Jan. 30, 2014. REUTERS Advertisement In May 2006, more than 30 Belgian churches served such a purpose. About 300 Africans occupied Antwerp's Magdalena Chapel. Other churches held as many as 700 squatters. At Our Lady of Succor Church in Brussels, squatters lived in small tents donated by Catholic relief agencies, conducted Muslim services, erected computer tables near the pulpit and even set fires on the floor. Friar Herwig Arts described a scene at Antwerp's Jesuit chapel: migrants 'removed the tabernacle [and] installed a television set and radios, depriving us of the opportunity to pray in our own chapel and say Mass.' He went on, 'For me, the place has been desecrated. I feel I cannot enter it anymore.' Advertisement Belgium's bishops were not amused. Arts was chided by Belgium's leading clergy. 'Solidarity cannot be limited to one's own nation, said the late Cardinal Godfried Danneels, then the country's leading prelate. Monsingor Luc van Looy, then the bishop of Ghent, even said 'illegal fugitives' were 'entitled to a good place in our society. Arts has been silent on the topic ever since. But two decades later, Kazakhstan's Bishop Schneider refuses to stay silent: 'This is a global political agenda by the powerful of the world to destroy Europe.' Leo thus faces an existential challenge, one that blissful sentimentality cannot answer: Will he allow a church that played a pivotal role in creating European civilization to perform a more decisive part in destroying it? This article first ran in The Spectator's US edition.

NATO defense chiefs hold ‘candid discussion' on security guarantees for Ukraine
NATO defense chiefs hold ‘candid discussion' on security guarantees for Ukraine

Los Angeles Times

time2 hours ago

  • Los Angeles Times

NATO defense chiefs hold ‘candid discussion' on security guarantees for Ukraine

BRUSSELS — NATO defense chiefs held a 'candid discussion' Wednesday about what security guarantees they could offer Kyiv to help forge a peace agreement that ends Russia's three-year war on Ukraine, a senior alliance official said. Italian Admiral Giuseppe Cavo Dragone, the chair of NATO's Military Committee, said that 32 defense chiefs from across the alliance held a video conference amid a U.S.-led diplomatic push to end the fighting. He said there was a 'great, candid discussion' in the call. 'I thanked everyone for their always proactive participation in these meetings: we are united, and that unity was truly tangible today, as always,' he wrote on social platform X without providing further details. Assurances that it won't be invaded again in the future are one of the keys for getting Ukraine to sign up for a peace deal with Russia. It wants Western help for its military, including weapons and training, to shore up its defenses, and Western officials are scrambling to figure out what commitments they might offer. Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov chided efforts to work on security arrangements in Ukraine without Moscow's involvement. 'We cannot agree with the fact that it is now proposed to resolve collective security issues without the Russian Federation. This will not work,' Lavrov said Wednesday, according to state news agency RIA Novosti. Russia will 'ensure (its) legitimate interests firmly and harshly,' Lavrov added at a news conference in Moscow with Jordanian Foreign Minister Ayman al-Safadi. U.S. Gen. Alexus Grynkewich, NATO's supreme allied commander Europe, took part in the virtual talks, Dragone said. U.S. Gen. Dan Caine, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, was also due to participate, a U.S. defense official said. Caine also met with European military chiefs Tuesday evening in Washington to assess the best military options for political leaders, according to the defense official, who wasn't authorized to comment publicly and spoke on condition of anonymity. President Trump met last Friday with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Alaska and on Monday hosted Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and prominent European leaders at the White House. Neither meeting delivered concrete progress. Trump is trying to steer Putin and Zelensky toward a settlement more than three years after Russia invaded its neighbor, but there are major obstacles. They include Ukraine's demands for Western-backed military assurances to ensure Russia won't mount another invasion in the coming years. 'We need strong security guarantees to ensure a truly secure and lasting peace,' Zelensky said in a Telegram post Wednesday after Russian missile and drone strikes hit six regions of Ukraine overnight. Kyiv's European allies are looking to set up a force that could backstop any peace agreement, and a coalition of 30 countries, including European nations, Japan and Australia, has signed up to support the initiative. Military chiefs are figuring out how that security force might work. The role that the U.S. might play is unclear. Trump on Tuesday ruled out sending U.S. troops to help defend Ukraine against Russia. Russia has repeatedly said that it would not accept NATO troops in Ukraine. Attacks on civilian areas in Sumy and Odesa overnight into Wednesday injured 15 people, including a family with three small children, Ukrainian authorities said. Russian strikes also targeted ports and fuel and energy infrastructure, officials said. Zelensky said the strikes 'only confirm the need for pressure on Moscow, the need to introduce new sanctions and tariffs until diplomacy works to its full potential.' Trump said Monday he has begun arrangements for a face-to-face meeting between Putin and Zelensky, although the Kremlin hasn't publicly confirmed such a possibility and no venue was suggested. Lavrov, in his Moscow press conference, said Russia is prepared to continue negotiations with Ukraine in any format. He said Putin proposed to Trump raising the level of representation in delegations that recently took part in largely fruitless direct talks in Istanbul. He added that 'a separate block (of talks) should be devoted to examining the political aspects of the settlement, along with the military and humanitarian ones.' Ukraine and Western leaders have accused Putin of dragging out peace negotiations in the hope of capturing more land before any settlement. French President Emmanuel Macron has said the summit could happen in Europe and proposed the Swiss city of Geneva. Switzerland has expressed its willingness to act as host. Putin's ability to travel abroad is limited because he is wanted by the International Criminal Court in The Hague on a warrant dating back to March 2023 for alleged involvement in the abduction of Ukrainian children. More than 100 countries are ICC signatories and have a legal obligation to arrest the Russian leader on their soil. Switzerland intends to ask the ICC to exempt it from sanctions in order to allow Putin in for a summit, according to a senior official in The Hague with direct knowledge of the request. The official was not authorized to speak about the proceedings and spoke on condition of anonymity. McNeil and Novikov write for the Associated Press. Novikov reported from Kyiv, Ukraine. Molly Quell contributed to this report from The Hague and Mike Pesoli from Washington.

DOWNLOAD THE APP

Get Started Now: Download the App

Ready to dive into a world of global content with local flavor? Download Daily8 app today from your preferred app store and start exploring.
app-storeplay-store