
Rejoinder: Manu Pillai treats civilisational coherence with deep suspicion
Hinduism, in this account, was not a unified civilisational matrix but an evolving continuum – shaped as much by folk and regional traditions as by Brahmanical orthodoxy. Pillai argues that contemporary efforts to view India's past through a civilisational or dharmic lens are retrofitted, often ideologically motivated, and historically unsound.
While at one level the complexity is perhaps true, Pillai's reading reflects and continues a historiographical tendency that treats civilisational coherence with deep suspicion. The implication is that any attempt to connect India's disparate political and social entities into a broader historical imagination reflects presentist distortion.
Limits of fragmentation
Yet, this refusal to ascribe coherence can also obscure moral and institutional continuities that did, in fact, persist. Precolonial India – despite its fragmented polities – was not devoid of civilisational logic. The endurance of institutions like temple trusts, village assemblies, local jurisprudence and pedagogical traditions points to an underlying moral-political grammar.
These were neither random nor merely symbolic. They drew on dharma as a normative concept: not in a narrow theological sense, but as an ethical and social grammar that informed public life.
Pillai is rightly cautious of simplistic narratives. But his emphasis on hybridity and improvisation occasionally underplays the structural and normative dimensions of premodern institutions. In Rebel Sultans, for instance, the Deccan sultanates are portrayed as cosmopolitan regimes – tactically deploying Hindu imagery and forging local alliances. However, the deeper disjunction between Islamic political theology and dharmic statecraft is never fully explored.
His work challenges simplistic Hindu-Muslim binaries but leaves the ideological tensions between these systems of governance underexplored. And underscoring that Rajputs and Marathas served Islamic courts need not invalidate civilisational memory; rather, it reflects a fractured political landscape where sovereignty and survival were negotiated without a unified self-awareness. The dharma-based worldview persisted in subtle forms, awaiting consolidation amidst colonial disruption and the challenges of modernity.
Thus this tendency to narrate history as a sequence of accommodations and hybridity runs the risk of substituting aesthetic pluralism for ethical inquiry. What gets sidelined is the possibility that premodern or even pre-Islamic Indian society was governed by an enduring framework of moral meaning – even if unevenly practiced, even if politically fractured.
Civilisational coherence does not require a modern nationalist consciousness. It can reside in recurring social forms, metaphysical orientations and institutional memory.
Pillai also suggests that contemporary political mobilisations based on memory – particularly those invoking Hindu identity – are largely distortive. But the deeper question remains: is there a legitimate space for civilisational memory that is ethically grounded and historically plausible?
If modern historiography cannot answer that, it creates a vacuum – ceding the terrain to more shrill or reductive voices. Merely critiquing memory's misuse is not enough; one must also ask whether there are meaningful ways to recollect, reinterpret and retrieve.
One area where Pillai's account remains underdeveloped is the ethical dimension of historical narrative itself. His method from what he articulates in the conversation tracks political fluidity and elite performance, but didn't suggest engagements with the moral economies within which historical actors operated.
So if it were to be contended that dharmic norms, caste orders and legal traditions were merely instruments of power, this is to reduce a layered civilisational archive to political sociology. Would we see dissenters like Buddha Basava, Kabir and Nanak, reject the civilisational space wholesale? They worked within it, critiquing it morally and reshaping it philosophically.
A civilisational method
Furthermore, Pillai's own admission that liberal historiography has failed to inspire the public ought to invite serious introspection. If professional history cannot move beyond irony or scepticism –if it cannot offer narratives that are ethically resonant as well as empirically grounded, as earlier historians like RC Majumdar, Jadunath Sarkar or KP Jayaswal once attempted through what was effectively a civilisational episteme rather than merely a nationalist one – then it risks forfeiting its place in shaping public imagination.
Their legacy, though far from homogenous, if revisited today through sociological frameworks from Durkheim and Weber to SN Balagangadhara's critique of colonial consciousness, offer a possible middle path between empirical rigour and civilisational insight – something contemporary liberal historiography continues to resist.
This does not mean ignoring hierarchy, injustice or violence in India's past. But it does require acknowledging the normative aspirations and metaphysical commitments that underpinned institutions over time. Civilisational thinking need not be exclusionary. It can provide a grammar for coherence, continuity without collapsing into singularity and yet revealing belonging without erasing difference.

Try Our AI Features
Explore what Daily8 AI can do for you:
Comments
No comments yet...
Related Articles


Time of India
6 hours ago
- Time of India
BJP wraps Dharmasthala case in faith narrative, Congress battles perception war
Bengaluru: What began as an investigation into allegations of mass burials at Dharmasthala — one of the country's most prominent Hindu pilgrimage centres — has evolved into a politically charged contest over faith, identity, and control of the narrative. The special investigation team (SIT), tasked with examining claims that hundreds of bodies were secretly buried, has so far produced limited physical evidence. Yet in the political arena, the case is being reframed as an attack on Hinduism, with BJP signalling it could be a major campaign plank in the run-up to the 2028 assembly polls — a prospect which troubles governing Congress. The investigation was launched in July after a whistleblower — a former sanitation worker employed at the temple from 1995 to 2014 — alleged he had buried hundreds of bodies, including women allegedly .raped before being killed. He also claimed he faced threats to his life and family if he spoke out. You Can Also Check: Bengaluru AQI | Weather in Bengaluru | Bank Holidays in Bengaluru | Public Holidays in Bengaluru | Gold Rates Today in Bengaluru | Silver Rates Today in Bengaluru Opposition BJP and affiliated Hindutva organisations have cast the investigation as a conspiracy to malign Hindu temples. Opposition leader in the assembly R Ashoka called it an anti-Hindu conspiracy to defame the temple by both "urban naxals and international hands", while incorrectly claiming the whistleblower is a Muslim. He is a Dalit. BJP also views the matter as a potential rallying issue, with Vishwa Hindu Parishad hinting at a statewide campaign, describing the investigation as part of a drive by "divisive forces". On Sunday, a team of BJP functionaries is expected to visit Dharmasthala as devotees in a show of support. Congress, wary of being labelled anti-Hindu, has reined in its criticism and has been insisting that they ordered the probe with good intentions and not to defame the temple. "Should such claims be allowed to linger?" home minister G Parameshwara asked. "Shouldn't the truth behind these allegations emerge? We formed the SIT to find the truth, so that those facing allegations are treated fairly." He also said the govt is contemplating action against those who carried out a misinformation campaign – including the sanitation worker – against the pilgrim town and its authorities, if investigation fails to substantiate the allegations. But deputy chief minister DK Shivakumar struck a different note, echoing BJP's position: "It is a big conspiracy to tarnish the pilgrim town." Analysts say this divergence underscores Congress's concern over the BJP's Hindutva framing. Political analyst MN Patil said: "Instead of debating whether crimes took place, the conversation has veered toward whether Hindu temples are being unfairly targeted. This narrative mobilises BJP's core vote-bank." Dharmasthala's hereditary head, Veerendra Heggade, has been Dharmadhikari since 1968 and was nominated to the Rajya Sabha by BJP in 2022 — a fact seen as adding a political layer to the controversy. Legal expert N Venkatesh warned: "When you cast a criminal allegation as an attack on religion, the legal process becomes subordinate to political mobilisation." Stay updated with the latest local news from your city on Times of India (TOI). Check upcoming bank holidays , public holidays , and current gold rates and silver prices in your area. Get the latest lifestyle updates on Times of India, along with Happy Krishna Janmashtami Wishes ,, messages , and quotes !


Hindustan Times
12 hours ago
- Hindustan Times
‘Not a NGO': Siddaramaiah slams PM Modi's praise for RSS in I-Day speech
Hitting out at Prime Minister Narendra Modi for describing the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) as the "world's biggest NGO", Karnataka Chief Minister Siddaramaiah on Friday accused him of "speaking as an RSS pracharak from the ramparts of the Red Fort" rather than as the leader of 140 crore Indians. Karnataka CM Siddaramaiah claimed that RSS is "the world's biggest for-political-profit, for-hate, and most divisive organisation".(ANI) Siddaramaiah claimed the RSS is "the world's biggest for-political-profit, for-hate, and most divisive organisation—unregistered, non-tax-paying, and conspiring to pit Indians against each other." Earlier in the day, Modi had hailed 100 years of the RSS as a "very proud and glorious" journey of the "world's biggest NGO" and saluted its volunteers for their service to the nation. Addressing the nation from the Red Fort on the 79th Independence Day, he said the country is not built by the government alone but by the efforts of people across society. Quoting from Modi's remarks, Siddaramaiah claimed on 'X': "Let's be clear: the RSS is not an NGO. It is an unregistered, non-tax-paying organisation that thrives on political profit and hate, and conspires to divide Indians." He alleged the Red Fort was "not a BJP rally stage" but a place of historical significance from where the prime minister must speak for all citizens, not promote his party's parent body. "By praising the RSS, PM Modi spoke as an RSS pracharak, not as the leader of 140 crore people," Siddaramaiah alleged, calling the remarks a "desperate move to appease the RSS" when Modi was "politically weakened and reliant on its backing." The chief minister claimed Modi had "lost the moral right" to speak for the whole country by endorsing an organisation that "had no role in the freedom struggle, opposed the tricolour, and worked against the idea of an equal and inclusive India." Calling the RSS an outfit whose ideology inspired Mahatma Gandhi's assassination and which was banned three times for "spreading hate", Siddaramaiah accused it of twisting Hinduism—"a faith of diversity and tolerance"—into a narrow vision that treats those outside it as second-class citizens. He alleged the RSS has "engineered and fuelled communal violence for decades" and "corrupted young minds through its networks." He asked whether the prime minister did not see that its "supremacist vision denies equality, poisons harmony, and contradicts the Constitution." "Independence Day is a time to honour those who united India," he said, alleging that "instead, PM Modi glorified a force that thrives on polarisation, collaborated with the British, and mirrors their authoritarianism." "Our freedom was won by people of every religion, caste, and language under the tricolour. No organisation is bigger than that unity or above the Constitution. No Prime Minister can turn Independence Day into a tribute to those who divide India," he claimed.


Scroll.in
14 hours ago
- Scroll.in
Scroll Adda: Why this Mughal historian fears coming to India
Play While completing her PhD in 2012 in New York, Audrey Truschke did not imagine that her work would one day rile up a section of Indians so much that she would feel physically unsafe. So much so that Truschke tells Shoaib Daniyal in this episode of Scroll Adda that she fears coming to India. Truschke's work on medieval Indian history has severely angered India's ruling Hindutva ideologues. She has written on the significant role Sanskrit played in Indo-Muslim culture, a 5,000-year history of the subcontinent and her most attacked book, a slim biography of the Mughal Emperor Aurangzeb that showed that his demonisation is a much later phenomenon and during his own time, he was looked at with reverence by both his Hindu and Muslim subjects, as any Mughal emperor would be. Truschke is not shy when it comes to her politics. She compares Hindutva to fascism and her CV has "Hindu nationalist attacks" in the honours section. She sees no contradiction when it comes to being a historian and in fact says that having a moral compass is necessary to study the humanities.