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New York Red Bulls in talks over Timo Werner move

New York Red Bulls in talks over Timo Werner move

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The New York Red Bulls are engaged in talks over a move for RB Leipzig forward Timo Werner.
Werner, 29, has 57 caps for Germany and has spent the last 18 months on loan at Tottenham Hotspur, but is surplus to requirements at Leipzig and will be allowed to leave. No agreement has been reached yet, but both sides are optimistic that a deal can be concluded this summer.
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Werner has actually been a long-time target for the RBNY and had the option of joining the club in the summer of 2024. It's understood that negotiations have been underway for some months and that Werner would be keen on a move to MLS, where he would reunite with his former Leipzig teammate, Emil Forsberg.
A wide forward, Werner joined Leipzig from Stuttgart in 2016 and scored 78 goals in 127 Bundesliga appearances before to earn a move to Chelsea in 2020, with whom he won the Champions League in 2021.
He rejoined Leipzig in 2022, earning a recall to the German national team, and was part of the side that won the DFB-Pokal in 2023, the first trophy in the club's history. But after falling out of favour at Red Bull Arena, he joined Tottenham on loan in January 2024. That loan was then extended by a further year, during which Werner was part of the Spurs team that won the Europa League under Ange Postecoglou.
Last season saw the Red Bulls reach MLS Cup for the first time since 2008, falling to fellow founding member LA Galaxy. This winter the club signed Eric Maxim Choupo-Moting, who has been the team's starting striker.
Werner projects to fit in nicely on the left of the forward line, with Scotland international Lewis Morgan on the right and Forsberg pulling the strings beneath. At the midpoint of the 2025 season, New York sits 7th in the Eastern Conference, narrowly in the playoff places.
It's unclear whether New York has Werner's 'discovery rights', an MLS mechanism to prevent clubs from up-bidding one another for talent from outside of the league. Should New York need to obtain those rights from another club, they have plenty of allocation money available; as of February 28, their ledger sat at nearly $1.7 million of the league-issued currency.

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Flawed though he was, even that version of the Mexican would be enough to show any Disney child or YouTuber the difference between doing it and being it and reveal there are various degrees of 'softness' in this sport. However, there can be no guarantee that Chavez Jr., a pro for 22 years, is still capable of hitting those same notes in 2025. What is more, he now fights someone whose privilege is a weapon yet to be used against him; someone whose privilege has built muscles, bought opportunities, and enabled him to call out Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez and Anthony Joshua with a straight face and no fear of repercussion. In fact, while Chavez Jr. spent his entire career trying to prove himself worthy of a name, Paul (11-1, 7 KOs) has only ever had to prove that he is a boxer. Meaning: Just as their challenges are different, so too is their privilege. In the case of Chavez Jr., an already hard task was made harder by his privilege, whereas, for Paul, becoming a boxer has never been easier than it is today. It is now even an option for the softest of men. All one needs are gloves, a ring and an opponent happy to lose.

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