
Clive Lloyd urges complete overhaul of West Indies cricket after historic collapse
"We have to examine all aspects of West Indies cricket-from grassroots to the international level. Everything must be looked at closely and carefully. West Indies cricket is an institution. It has given so much to the people of this region, and we must do all we can to revive it," he said.Lloyd, who led the West Indies during their dominant era in the 1970s and 80s, said he remains ready to help however he can. He believes the Test team's batting, in particular, needs urgent attention. Only Brandon King and Anderson Phillip averaged above 20 during the series, with King's 75 in Grenada standing out as the highest individual score from either side. The team's inability to bat for long periods, highlighted by the historic collapse, has exposed serious technical and mental deficiencies.Lloyd stressed the need for more disciplined and patient batters who can "dig in" and value their wickets."We need a couple of Larry Gomes-players who are willing to bat ugly if needed, stay at the crease, and wear down the bowlers. We haven't been doing that. We've lost that ability to fight and stay in," he said.He also echoed head coach Daren Sammy's concerns about the quality of pitches in the Caribbean and the structure of domestic cricket. Lloyd questioned whether enough quality cricket is being played at school, club, and first-class levels, and whether the pitches are helping players develop the skills needed for Test cricket."We have to go back to basics. Are our young players getting the right kind of cricket? Are our pitches helping them learn how to build innings or bowl long spells? The mental side of our game needs to improve too."West Indies have now finished eighth in all three World Test Championship cycles. Their upcoming away tours to India and New Zealand offer little room for quick recovery. Lloyd, who famously led the West Indies to victory in the inaugural Cricket World Cup in 1975, insists the region still has the talent, but bold steps are now essential.advertisement"I'm always available to help in any way. We've been playing top-class cricket for nearly 100 years. We owe it to ourselves to get this right."As the Caribbean reflects on its proud cricketing past, Lloyd's words serve as a clear reminder: legacy alone is not enough. The time for sentiment has passed. The time for rebuilding has begun.- EndsMust Watch
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Time of India
2 hours ago
- Time of India
'He is milking that injury': Former England cricketer reveals 'consensus' on Rishabh Pant's injury
Rishabh Pant (Pic credit: BCCI) Former England cricketer David Lloyd has criticised Indian wicketkeeper-batter Rishabh Pant , suggesting he was exaggerating his injury during the fourth Test at Old Trafford. Lloyd's comments came after Pant, who suffered a toe fracture while batting on Day 1, returned to bat following Shardul Thakur's dismissal a day later. Pant sustained the injury while attempting to reverse sweep Chris Woakes' yorker, which struck him on his right toe. Despite the injury, he came back to continue his innings at 37, receiving applause from the Manchester crowd. How and why Rishabh Pant's England tour could come to an abrupt end due to toe fracture Lloyd shared the sentiment from the legends lounge at the venue regarding Pant's injury situation. "I've never had a metatarsal, which I think is somewhere in the foot, seeing Rishabh Pant. I have had a smashed hand against Andy Roberts and a broken cheekbone. I couldn't bat on after either, although I think I did continue when I had a broken finger. Pant looked in pain; it was pretty heroic of him to come out, though," Lloyd told talkSPORT Cricket . "I was in that legends lounge today, and the consensus was, 'He is milking that injury. It can't be that bad. He's milked it, coming down those steps, and one or two said, 'He should be timed out." The incident has reignited discussions about allowing substitutes for injuries in Test cricket. Lloyd expressed his views on the matter. "I probably am against runners, but I am pro substitutes for an external injury. It opens up a can of worms, it really does. But if it is an external injury, a break, and medically he isn't going to be fit for six weeks, you could have a like-for-like substitute. So that's something else that you've got to consider. Not like replacing a batter with a spinner, though." For real-time updates, scores, and highlights, follow our live coverage of the India vs England Test match here. Catch Rani Rampal's inspiring story on Game On, Episode 4. Watch Here!

The Hindu
4 hours ago
- The Hindu
Different rules for over-rate penalties in different continents — Does Stokes have a point?
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Both teams were handed penalties in that game — the only occasion of teams being docked points for slow over-rates in Asia in the 2023-25 WTC cycle. ALSO READ: Uneven series, unequal chances — WTC's structural problem It is no mystery that the fast bowlers take significantly longer to complete their overs, and their recovery only gets slower over the course of a long series. With England playing a five-Test series more than any other team, the over-rate penalties may have hurt it inordinately. 'You've got fast bowlers bending their backs consistently. Throughout the course of a game, the time of overs is going to come down because you've just got tired bodies. We played for five days. That was our 15th day of cricket,' Stokes said. Jofra Archer, one of England's best seamers in this series, returned to red-ball action at the international level after four years, following his recovering from injury. | Photo Credit: Reuters Of the 22 points England was docked during the 2023-25 WTC cycle, 19 came during a gruelling five-Test Ashes series against Australia at home. Though England fell foul of the minimum required number of overs in the first two Tests, it was docked eight more points over the last two matches of the series. Australia, too, was handed a 10-point reprimand for a slow over-rate in the fourth Test. An era of changing Test cricket patterns The Ashes series in 2023 was a case in point for proponents of a new system for penalising slow over-rates. England and Australia were docked a combined 32 WTC points during what was perhaps the most closely fought series ever. Both teams have been fined one #WorldTestChampionship point and five per cent of their match fee for every over short in the #Ashes: ICC READ: — Sportstar (@sportstarweb) August 2, 2023 The win margins were wafer-thin: Australia won the first Test by two wickets and the second by 43 runs, before England levelled the series by clinching a three-wicket win in the third Test and a 49-run victory in the fifth. The fans were anything but 'robbed' of gripping action due to overs lost and probably didn't mind the bowlers taking longer to set their fields and strategise as the contests got closer. Stuart Broad celebrates winning the fifth Test against Australia at the 2023 Ashes Series. The win helped England draw the series 2-2. | Photo Credit: Getty Images There is also a view that the ever-increasing run rates in Test cricket — which can lead to the fielding side revisiting its plans frequently and thus take longer to complete overs — can influence over-rates. 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Time of India
11 hours ago
- Time of India
IND vs ENG 4th Test: ‘Playing through pain' - Sachin Tendulkar lauds Rishabh Pant's gritty fifty in Manchester
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