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10-06-2025
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Comedian Iliza Shlesinger Talks ‘Digestible Feminism' and Why She's Proud of Her Viral Pants
With Primetime Emmy nomination voting beginning on June 12 (and running through June 23) and for your consideration ad campaigns are ramping up, the comedy business buzz is that Iliza Shlesinger's Amazon Prime Video stand-up special, A Different Animal, has a good shot at getting a nod for the Outstanding Variety Special (Pre-Recorded) category. A Different Animal showcases the veteran Los Angeles comic, who has been headlining shows for almost 20 years, at the top of her game. Among her comedy calling cards: millennials vs. Gen Z (she is the former) and in her words, 'digestible feminism' — humor that validates and celebrates women, warts and all, while making men laugh as well, even when it's at their expense. It's a tightrope walk of an act — Shlesinger, 42, and the mother of two children, says her aim is to never pander but also to not alienate her audiences — and in A Different Animal she makes it look effortless, while wearing a pair of revealing pants that caused a viral sensation when the special debuted in March. More from Billboard NBA Finals 2025 Livestream: Here's How to Watch Pacers vs. Thunder Game Online for Free Thousands Fill Nation's Capital for WorldPride Parade With Reneé Rapp, Laverne Cox, Gay Men's Chorus & More Indiana Fever vs Chicago Sky Livestream: How to Watch the WNBA Game Online for Free Before heading to one of her frequent stand-up shows, Shlesinger spoke to Billboard about her comedic process, a new film she has written, and yes, those pants. Hi, Iliza. You're catching me right before I get in the car to drive to Huntington Beach to do a random Friday night gig on the beach. I was looking at your tour and after Huntington Beach you're going to Estonia, Poland, Croatia, Slovenia, Bulgaria, Romania and Greece. All the big comedy hits. Why those cities? I'm very lucky to have fans all over the world, so I always get to do Europe. I was in Finland, which is an incredible comedy market, and these girls came to my meet-and-greet. My fans make me a lot of artwork and stuff, and they made me this really cool card. These girls kind of looked like me, and they were like, you should come to Estonia. I've never thought about A, Estonia, and B, that there would be cool girls there like that. So, we've been working on routing this tour for a few years, and it was inspired by meeting these really cool girls. I hope they're still my fans because I'm coming. Do you have to adjust your set when you're performing overseas? You should always be mindful of where you are, and what your audience is. Outside of America certain references will land because of our pop culture, but I think it's always good to cater to and never pander. And after six Netflix specials and this Amazon Prime Video special, when you're coming to see me it's not a flier. You know what you're getting. A couple local jokes is great, but the point of view stays the same. Speaking of your Amazon special, , it's being talked about as a contender for this year's Emmy nominations. Do you think it's because of the pants? If it were just the pants, a lot of models would be up for comedy for best outstanding variety special. I think it is despite the pants. Only women get their outfits weaponized against them. I talk the talk, and I walk the walk — and that is you should be able to wear what you want to wear. As distracted as people claim the pants are, I do believe the comedy and the substance speaks for itself. And they made me feel good. I thought they'd be really fun. I did not think they would be as divisive as they were. I thought people would just think like oh, cool pants. She works out. But not only am I proud that I wore them, I would wear them again. Just in a different color. They could end up being your lucky pants. They could be my lucky pants. I'm going to have to get them dry cleaned though for sure. For what it's worth, this is the closest I've ever come to anything in the realm of an award, and I'm really enjoying this FYC [for your consideration] season. It's been incredibly validating as an artist to have Amazon support me. I was blown away when I learned that you don't write out your jokes, except for a few key words. Have you always had that ability? I guess so, and moreover, I never questioned it or even thought about it. It's only in the last few years that I've even been asked about it. I just figured everybody had a little list of little words. I know people like Joan Rivers had a whole card catalog, but what I do is ephemeral. I'm only using that material for about a year, and anything that I don't use gets jotted down as a word or a sentence or two. I don't have a library, and maybe that's stupid. Maybe I forget punchlines that I could have used. I have a famous bit amongst my friends and it's about Las Vegas. I did it on the road for a year, and I never wrote it down. To this day my husband is like, 'Why don't you do your Vegas bit?' I'm like, I can't remember it. So, I have to rely on random friends and my husband to remind me, what was that I said about curling irons by the pool? Also, I write so much material, and I believe the good things stick when I'm creating that hour. To me that's the litmus test. It's also a great way to fight off Alzheimer's. In , you talk about how after childbirth part of a woman's brain shrinks to make room for the growth of the part of the brain that gives her parental instincts. Has that affected your ability to remember your set, or is that just me asking a stupid question. Motherhood comes for all of your brain. I think that because the stand-up part of my brain is the part that I work out the most, my joke recall is fairly intact. Also, it's normal to do a joke 2,000 times and then on the 2,001st time you're like, what was that punchline? But, for me, that's where the craft and practice come in. I go up a lot, and I love doing it, and I'm always running and rerunning and fine-tuning. Because when I do my special, or when I go on the road and people spend a lot of money to see me, I want to give them a polished product — not me sifting through a notebook or being drunk onstage. This is art, and the people who come to my shows deserve a polished piece of art. That extends to your production values. They are polished and sophisticated. I appreciate that. Call me old school. I like a shiny floor. I like a high production value. Lo-fi production, for sure, has its place, and we live in a world where people are getting famous off of a TikTok clip from the Giggle Hut. But there's something special about getting to create a special. It's a moment to be as big as you wish in a business that is so difficult and does not always reward you. I like the show business of it all. I want people to feel like they're watching something of quality, and I believe that what I create is of quality. You have used the phrase 'digestible feminism' to describe part of your act. For the uninitiated, could you elaborate on that concept? Feminism has become such a divisive word, and it wasn't even a word I used until I realized women are totally misunderstood. Digestible feminism is about getting your point across without aiming to exclude anyone. You can stand up for women without bashing men, because feminism, by definition, is about uplifting everyone. And so I try to be skillful at getting the point across about the way women are represented, and the way women feel — our point of view — while including the men in the audience. The men who love us, who date us, who reject us, who brought us there, who we're friends with, who we're related to. Because if you don't get the other half on your side, whatever the debate, is you're going to lose. Nobody wants to spend money to see a performance and leave feeling bad. I'm a big believer in being fair — taking shots at everyone and always, even if I hurt your feelings, bringing you back in. You did a video interview with the in which you talked about the pitfalls of women comics talking about their kids. You observed that men can do it, but with women, the response tends to be, 'Eww, she's unf—kable now.' How big of a factor is the perception of being, quote, unquote, fuckable in comedy? I don't care about that perception in stand-up comedy, but it is something that gets put on women anyway. I show up with my jokes ready to do the work, and then the comment is always about being at an attractive level or being hot. That's not to say that women don't want to be attractive, but you're factoring in these variables that you have to reckon with whether you wanted to or not. And that applies to the way that we dress. Is it tight? Are you attractive? Are they distracted? These are just micro hurdles that are not insurmountable, but it takes a lot of practice to be like, well, I'm wearing this and I'm talking about this, get on board. And people always do. In terms of the motherhood of it all, I think the overarching seam is people and appearances. Now that I am a mother, people are unkind to mothers. There's a big battle, and you're always having to prove, as a woman, why you are good or worthy of attention or love, or anything like that. As a comic, I've always talked about what it is I'm going through. And you can believe that even if you are not going through what I'm going through, I am an expert at making it relatable. That's what we do. We talk about our lives that are not always like yours, and we make it funny, and we make you see yourself in us. A chunk of is about exactly that. I never want a guy to feel bad. I mean, a huge part of my audience is men, but I always want to remind women hey, you're not crazy. You're not wrong. We can laugh at this together. And whether you decide to have kids or you don't, or you can't, you're going to always have to account for those circumstances — a lot of times in a way that men don't have to. So, I have to wrap my mind fully around what I'm going through because for me it's seldom the actual thing I'm going through and more the commentary on it. I'm never going to get up there and tell a story about something my 3-year-old daughter said. That's just not me. But I will get up there and make fun of something that someone made fun of once when they heard a kid tell a story. You became a headliner at 25, and you have said that you were thrown into the deep end without any swimming lessons. Do you have any pro tips for up-and-coming women comics? I have pro tips for comics, male and female This is an art, and there's an alchemy to it. And that means there don't have to be any rules. You don't need to ask for permission. A lot of times, comics ask, 'Do you have any tips?' And I'm like, in the time that you're using to ask me about this, you could be setting up a show. You could be writing. We don't ask for permission to do our art. We do it because we have to do it. So, my tip would be, if you are struggling, just go and do it. Find that bar and ask, what is the slowest night you have? Can I run a show here? And you get up with the five minutes you have, you take your punches and keep doing it because you love it so much. And you have to do it because you can't live without it. As a Millennial what's your take on Gen Z's excessive use of exclamation points? Oh, is that a thing? I'm reading restaurateur Keith McNally's memoir, , and there's a passage about his irritation with young people overusing exclamation points. Well, he has never read a work email from my millennial team leader because I can tell you Millennial women are the first ones to be like, 'I hope no one is mad at me Have a great weekend! Circle back! Emoji, emoji, emoji. So, once again Gen Z taking everything from us and leaving no crumbs. You've written books, a movie, you've acted in movies and television. Any future projects you can talk about? Yes. I am actually filming a movie. There will be an announcement at the end of this summer. It's an indie film that I wrote, and we have an incredible director attached. I worked on it for a long time. I'm a big believer in creating the roles for yourself because it's such a hard industry. It's kind of its own genre, but it's a comedy. I would put it in the category of movies themed around coming back home and how frustrated we all get when you have to return home for whatever reason We're going to be casting it over the next few weeks, and my stomach is in knots as I read with actors who are better than me. Best of Billboard Kelly Clarkson, Michael Buble, Pentatonix & Train Will Bring Their Holiday Hits to iHeart Christmas Concert Fox Plans NFT Debut With $20 'Masked Singer' Collectibles 14 Things That Changed (or Didn't) at Farm Aid 2021
Yahoo
28-05-2025
- Entertainment
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Iliza Shlesinger's comedy evolution: ‘You don't want to be 42 telling the same jokes you told at 22'
Iliza Shlesinger broke into the comedy world in her early 20s with razor-sharp observations about dating, singlehood, and the absurdities of modern womanhood. Her unapologetic style and knack for storytelling quickly earned her a loyal fanbase and a string of hit specials on Netflix. Now, at 42 and a mother of two, Shlesinger is entering a new phase — both onstage and off. Her latest stand-up special, A Different Animal, marks her debut on Prime Video and a fresh chapter in a career that's spanned nearly two decades. Shlesinger says her voice has evolved with time, shaped by life experience and motherhood. More from GoldDerby 'Hacks' renewed for Season 5 ahead of Season 4 finale The mystery of Pedro Pascal's Emmy category solved as HBO's 'The Last of Us' submissions are revealed 'The Last of Us' composers Gustavo Santaolalla and David Fleming on their unique collaboration Below, she reflects on the evolution of her comedy, the responsibility she feels to her audience, and why she believes her latest work is her most polished yet. Iliza Shlesinger: I started doing standup at 21, and then I became a professional around 24. My specials started maybe in my late 20s or early 30s. Now I'm 42 and a mother of two, so my job is to analyze life and call life as I see it. I began as a young woman talking about dating, back when the internet wasn't everywhere and opinions on society weren't so constant. Over time, I've evolved to have a more concise opinion — from commenting on women, to advocating for and validating why we are the way we are, to telling other women they're not crazy. Now people show up to hear that hot take, reverent or serious as it may be. That's where we are with A Different Animal. I never pressure myself. Sometimes I'm on stage two weeks later, which is my favorite part — because then I'm not polishing but improvising. It feels like jazz after the written music of the special. When I made that list, I wanted it to come from a fun place. Of course, we end with something serious and scathing — that's the reversal everyone waits for. But I wanted men to enjoy it too, not come from anger. I don't believe you uplift women by saying horrible things about men, and that's not the vibe of my special. So I chose things that harm no one and that everyone can agree on. That way, I keep the other half of the audience involved. Whenever, wherever. But the skill is knowing when to write something down — like when you're attuned to something different. I have scraps of paper, gum wrappers, phone notes everywhere. Sometimes I open my phone and see a note that says, 'Pit bull eye job,' and I'm like, what's that brilliant joke? Honestly, none. I hear about comics who have mentors when they start, but I never had that. After 10 years, I thought I knew everything, but then you realize how much you don't know. The biggest thing is that comedy — and really any career — is a marathon, not a sprint. You have to keep working, keep evolving, and be grateful for the chance to create a body of work over time. I want to look back and see my audience growing with me, not be a flash in the pan. Adam Sandler was huge for me growing up. I always loved sketch comedy, which shaped my storytelling style. It wasn't until much later I realized how much that influenced me. Touring full time with two little ones is heartbreaking. I miss them so much. Everything else is a gray haze until I'm on stage for that one hour. I've brought my daughter to shows a few times, but it's a lot of work. My daughter is three, my son is one, so I'm in the thick of it. Motherhood has made me realize how much work women put into everything all the time. It's scary as an artist to open up like that, but it's part of growing. You don't want to be the comic at 42 telling the same jokes you told at 22. I put all the thought in the world into it. Maybe I'm old school, but I believe in a polished product. Everything is a visual piece of art and needs to inform the performance. The set is white with my name in the background because I want you to know who you're watching. I'm not an alter ego on stage; I'm me, just fearless and bigger. Best of GoldDerby 'The Pitt' star Supriya Ganesh on Mohan 'reworking' her trauma and when she'll realize Abbot is flirting with her Dream Team: 'Étoile' creators Amy Sherman-Palladino and Daniel Palladino on the secrets of their partnership: 'You want to be jealous of something someone has done' TV sound editors roundtable: 'Adolescence' and 'Secret Level' Click here to read the full article.
Yahoo
03-04-2025
- Entertainment
- Yahoo
Iliza Shlesinger wants you to know she worked really hard to wear those see-through pants
"When you have a baby, as a woman, you become — how do I put this scientifically? — um, f***ing dumb," Iliza Shlesinger says in A Different Animal. But it's not our fault, the comedian assures. It's not because as moms we're selfish or myopic; it's because of "mom brain," the existence of which was proven in a groundbreaking 2016 study: Gray matter in the brain shrinks in areas associated with processing and social signals. This change then allows the brain to become more efficiently wired to respond to parenting cues. Shlesinger lays down these facts to laughs — but notices it's mostly from moms in the room. "I feel like women are cackling at this and men are like, 'There's no way; we better ask Joe Rogan.'" This is one of her funniest bits in A Different Animal, her seventh special, which is out now on Prime Video. In an interview with Yahoo Life for our series "Unapologetically," Shlesinger told me that Rogan line is meant to "shine a light on the low-key misogyny baked into a woman saying anything intelligent" who dares to "state anything about herself." (For what it's worth, she "loves" Rogan.) For Shlesinger, it's important that her stand-up has a message. "There's always something very scathingly honest and empowering," she tells me. And it's in the moments about womanhood and parenthood that her material gets not only the most guffaws, but emphatic cheers. "I believe as a comic, it's our job to say the things that people feel that they can't or to give a voice to that elephant in the room. Usually, those are just insights about women, the way that we feel, the way that we feel we're treated — one man's scathing is another man's tame. So, I leave it up to people to decide what that is." What is your approach to including your kids in your material, whether onstage or online? There's very little that we can control in this world, and the internet every day reveals itself to be a new form of terrible, so I choose not to share my children's faces. I think we'll get to a point in life where there's a sort of digital rights associated with the image of your face. I just don't think people need to see that part of my life. It's one of the few things that I do keep to myself. In terms of talking about them, my comedy tends to be commentary on things versus the actual [child]. I'm still processing being a mom and how life affirming and altering that is. ... I certainly don't have any complaints because they're so little. I mean, my children are so young at this time. When they become annoying teenagers, I'll circle back. I love your unapologetic approach to parenting. How has your parenting style shifted since welcoming your son? You know, he's a little baby and we have his nanny who's with him. And my job as his mom is to make sure that he's provided for and taken care of. Sometimes that involves having another woman help me. I think our greatest strength as women is paying other women in our lives, be it if your mother-in-law comes over or a relative or a friend. But the truth is, as a woman, no matter how you choose to parent, people are gonna take an issue, take umbrage with it. So at the end of the day, do what works for you and don't ask for feedback. We've gotta talk about mom brain. I spit out my coffee laughing at the Joe Rogan line. When did you come up with that one? I have no idea. I'm friends with Joe Rogan. I love him, but it does sort of shine a light on the low-key misogyny baked into a woman saying anything intelligent and the sort of comment section uprising against any woman who dares to make, to ascertain or state anything about herself. And you're just always met with people who know less than you, insisting they know more. My daughter is 6 and I'm not convinced it goes away. How is your mom brain right now? It's firing on all cylinders, which means no cylinders at all. Yesterday onstage, I said "president" instead of "present." As a mom, you need a full night's sleep and speech therapy to make sure you're getting out the words. I look back at all the times I laughed at my mom for saying my brother's name instead of mine, and now I think I need to send her some flowers and an apology. Your career is on fire, which, of course, means you're booked and busy. Do you experience mom guilt, and if so, how do you deal with that? It's not so much guilt as it's abject sadness. My daughter is taken care of. She has people in her life, she has her school and I've worked really hard to give her support and a routine. I think it would be selfish to make her tour on the road with me. Not that I don't take her every once in a while as a treat, but I think at this stage, her having a routine is the most important thing. So it's really just I guess my burden to bear. It's just me crying, looking at videos of her from when she was 1 on a flight home or in a hotel room. Any parent who travels knows this feeling. And it's just a sort of sadness that you have to carry with you, knowing that you do love this job. But now that I'm a mom, my heart's just broken a little bit, almost all the time. I was raised with a busy, working mom. I'm a working mom. There are a lot of lessons to be learned there too, raising kids. I think it's important, especially for little girls, to have it be normalized that moms work hard, whether that's working hard being their mom or working outside of the home. But I think it's more important to see a mom who is fulfilled. And I hope that's what my daughter takes from this. We've got to talk about the pants you wear in your special. I don't know 20-year-olds who could pull off the pants you wore in your special. I don't know any 20-year-olds. Are you more confident now at 42 than you've ever been? Or have you always had this confidence? I know that I'm gonna get thrown in jail for this, but I've always had this confidence. And confidence doesn't mean that you're always nailing it. Confidence doesn't mean you're always the best one in the room. I've just never questioned the fact that I belong in certain spaces and that I could wear whatever I wanted. You know, you always want to look nice. You never want to embarrass yourself. And there are plenty of times I am conservative, but your stage is an opportunity to be an extension of who you are in a bigger and bolder way. And I honestly, when I found the pants, didn't think they would be a big deal. That's how, I guess, out of touch I am. I was just like, 'These are cool!' I see myself as 21, why not? But I did work really hard to wear them. I found those right when I was pregnant with my son, Ethan. I worked out all during my pregnancy. And after the pregnancy, I had a goal in mind. I think we need to be more OK with a woman being like, 'I worked really f***ing hard because there was something that I wanted to do.' And so I did it. This interview was edited for length and clarity.
Los Angeles Times
11-03-2025
- Entertainment
- Los Angeles Times
Iliza Shlesinger on ‘mom brain' and being a mother while hustling as a comedian
Comedian Iliza Shlesinger's seventh special, 'A Different Animal,' dropped March 11 on Prime Video. In the special she dives into her evolution as a mother of two dealing with 'Mom Brain' while proudly upholding her role as an elder millennial.
Los Angeles Times
11-03-2025
- Entertainment
- Los Angeles Times
‘I'm not the only woman who does stand up': Iliza Shlesinger on ‘digestible feminism' and mom brain
Comedian Iliza Shlesinger takes the word 'special' very seriously, and not just because she's done a lot of them (seven, to be exact). It's because when she hits the stage, the goal is to leave a mark. From the first roar of applause from the audience, to the punch lines that claw into the flesh of gender stereotypes, to the pop-star outfits that remind us she's a comedy queen of the jungle, the veteran headliner holds nothing back. She brings those showbiz instincts to everything she does — including in-person interviews. On a recent afternoon, the L.A.-based comic arrived dressed to the nines (maybe even the 10s), in a full Rockette wardrobe including a black tuxedo top, sparkling sheer leggings and high heels to match. In her latest comedy special, 'A Different Animal,' which premiered on Tuesday on Prime Video, Shlesinger dives into her evolution as a mother of two dealing with 'mom brain' while proudly upholding her role as an elder millennial who can school Gen Z and Alpha newbies on what's up with a mixture of wisdom, wit and wild animal noises. This interview was edited for length and clarity. The title of your special, 'A Different Animal,' is an aggressive title, but it also seems like it's got a bunch of layers to it. How do you think the title relates to your comedy? I wanted to do something that was very me, but also my comedy has a little bit of force and aggression built into it. But I did want to sort of announce that I'm on this new platform [Prime Video], and I think what I bring as a performer is different. Every comic should feel that they are bringing something unique, otherwise, why are you an artist? In a literal way, [my comedy] is a different animal because I do these animal sounds [during my show] and I'm very theatrical in what I do. This is different comedy than what you might get somewhere else. I think that I create a very special product. When it comes to making a special new and different, every special you have has some element of theatrics, whether it's the set design, your outfit, etc. How far ahead do you visualize what a special is gonna look like? I believe in creating a product. I believe that if people are spending their time and money to come and see you, which is the greatest sacrifice we can make in this economy, they deserve a polished product. You don't deserve to see me come out there and stop to drink and have a beer and not have any production value, especially for a special. This is show business, and I think sometimes we get away from that. I mean, look, I'm the first one to perform in leggings and sneakers when I'm on tour, but for a special, and it should be special, you want to give them a show. And so we worked really hard on the design and the layout and we went through a lot of different options, but we just wanted something that was big and shiny and an announcement of my presence on the platform [Prime Video]. And somebody came up with having 'Iliza' [in big letters behind me] because the idea is you're watching this and just in case you forget who you're watching, we wanted it to always be onscreen. And I want it to be fun and polished and visually appealing. I thought about doing everything in white and Amazon was like, 'That's going to be a little hard to watch the whole time.' They're like, 'You should be the whitest thing about your set.' Having seen you around town in LA, you do multiple sets a night and you're very focused, dressed down and very inconspicuous when you're drilling your new material. It is a drill — I am drilling it. What's your mentality when you're in that mode? I believe in loving the work, and so when I go out at night I am there to get something out of it. Always do the set, even when you don't feel well, when you're tired. If there's no real reason to stay home, like if you have flu, maybe, OK stay home, don't spread it around–or do! I think maybe COVID was started by a bunch of male comics just like breathing on a microphone, but I'm there to do work and I'm there to find all the little weak points. I'm there to find new things, I'm there to find tags, So I get up, if I'm not on the road, I'll get up like two or three times a night. I don't do three sets as often as I used to because by the third set, even if it's only a 20-minute set, I'm still like, 'Did I already say this to you? or was that the other club?' But I try to get up a few times a night because I don't write anything down, so it's all in my head and so for me it's about retaining, remembering the muscle memory of what got a laugh last time. That's crazy you don't write anything down. I write down like a word, like it'll say 'Jell-O' and then that's my mental cue to remember that entire bit. Even though my memory feels shot since becoming a mom, I'm a big believer in the repetition that is the workout and so I'll do a lot of shows where I riff. If you come to see me in Hollywood, chances are I'm making up like a third of what I'm saying there, and then it just all I feel like whatever's good sticks and that's how we arrive at the hour. You talk about 'mom brain' a lot in your special. Is it true that parts of your brain shrink when you become a mom? Thank you for asking that. Yeah, a part of your brain shrinks when you become a mom, and I know people watching this are like, 'We better ask Joe Rogan. There's no way she knows that' — but it's true. Your brain actually chemically biologically shrinks to make way for a part of your brain that in fact enlarges when you become a mom, and that is the part that knows how to reflexively care for a child because it isn't as easy as babysitting, like that's your mother's intuition. Those are the eyes in the back of your head. All of those are senses that are in fact overdeveloped because you are inflamed when you become a mom. So it's the reason why I can anticipate what my child might need or why a mom can do that. So while you are looking for your phone as you're on it, you are still making sure your child doesn't fall or grab a knife. So there's a give and a take. I often forget to use a turn signal now, but at least I know my daughter's favorite foods. How do you balance that mom brain with hustling the way you do in comedy? I don't know if it's a balance. A balance just suggests that you haven't fallen so off-kilter that you're in some sort of mental facility. And I know that women often get asked about that. There is no balance, there is just doing it. I just get up and I put one foot in front of the other and I just do the best I can and I know from watching other moms, I've decided to never come down too hard on myself. Like you are really doing the best that you can, and the good news is your kid doesn't know any better and you just do it to the best of your ability, knowing that you will be faulted for much in the way you faulted your parents, everything you did and didn't do anyway, so we may as well let them have that cookie. Now that you've had both a daughter and a son, are you noticing a difference in the way you parent boys versus girls? [My son is] only 1, so there's not a lot to do other than like, 'Please don't grab my hair.' But I will say it is heartbreaking to leave them, and I don't remember a ton of it from my daughter because your brain is like this foggy mess and stand-up is one of the things that does keep me grounded. The consistency of getting up in those clubs year after year and knowing everyone — that is the one consistent thing in my life over the last 20 years and it's always been something that's brought me such joy and I love my fans so much. But your heart is broken when you're not with your kids and then when you're with them, you're like, oh, I need a break. But it is a weird thing, like you become two different people. When I leave [home to do shows], I have to just know that my heart is in pieces, but I've got to go do this amazing job, but I can't say that I get the joy from being on the road in the way that I did before, like I've been to Pittsburgh, I've been to Austin, I've been to the gift shops, I've been to the bars, I've eaten the steak, and all I want to do when I get offstage is just go to sleep so I can get home the next day. So as we millennials are reaching a certain age and having children, I think it's great that comedians who are also experiencing parenthood are able to talk about it because it feels like a different era than what our parents went through. What is it like crafting jokes around that topic? When you're a woman, you're always gonna get asked more about your children than men do, and for me there was a bit of a stutter step because to even begin to talk about something as life-changing, life-affirming and life-shattering as having kids, these are waters that you've never navigated before and I've gotten horrific comments like, 'You're not gonna talk about your kids, are you?' Which is disheartening because men get to do that and it's like, 'Oh, that's so charming, give them a sitcom.' But when women do, it's kind of seen as like, 'Oh, well, she's unf—able now, she has kids, that's not gonna be for me.' I also have a lot of hot takes about other things. So for me, the commentary on being a mom is less about the specificity of an interaction with my child and more commentary on society's commentary on a woman having kids, and even within that, I do keep it to a minimum in the special because I'm still so blown away by the experience that I'm having, I haven't processed all of it yet. So in five years I'll complain about the kids. You have some good material when it comes to talking about Gen Z and Alpha. How do you find a way to make these jokes multilayered for everyone in the audience? I'm always developing jokes for me, and I'm mindful of who might be in the audience, but I'm very lucky in that I don't have a homogeneous audience. I think with some comics you know exactly the archetype of [their fans], and because I'm fortunate enough to be able to play audiences across the country, you really don't know who you're gonna get. You can kind of guess, but we have everyone from conservative veterans, to a super queer contingent, to people who look like your parents, to Gen Z. So it's always about the truth and it's always about saying something honest, because comedy comes from vulnerability and from honesty and I don't hate Gen Z or Baby Boomers. My comedy comes from a place of very much wanting to be seen and explain myself. I don't ever write anything to hurt anyone deliberately. And so all my comedy comes from this unending need to understand what the f— is going on. When you make jokes about gender double standards, you say that it's never to bash men, it's to empower women. Why is that an important message to drive home to your male fans? I think we make the mistake of thinking that if it's pro-female, it has to be anti-male. And both things can be true — that you are critiquing something without aiming to harm and also wanting women to feel a little bit better. One of the comments that I sadly still get is women will come up to me and they'll say, 'That was my first stand-up show.' And I'll be like, well, that's right, because your boyfriend probably only showed you his favorite male comics, so you thought comedy wasn't for you. I'm not the only woman who does stand-up. Thankfully, there's so many more now than even when I started, so everybody can find something for them, but I think that there's a way to bring men in — I call it digestible feminism. Bring men in in a way that you just present the facts and you make everyone laugh, but you are saying something that women in the audience can vibrate with and men, if you don't hate women, will be like, 'Hey, that there's a good thought.' Nobody buys [a ticket to a comedy show] to hear why their politics are wrong, why their gender is wrong, why their color is wrong. And so I try to keep it all social and light and just hit you with scathing hot facts that are irrefutable wrapped in comedy so you can digest it and talk about it on your drive home to La Crescenta later. When you started comedy, what was your perception of what stand-up could be? When I started comedy, I don't think I had a perception because I was thrown into it. I became a touring headliner at 25. There was no real time to gather information. I didn't have a mentor. I was headlining at an age where most of the people around me were still gritting it out in clubs and you're alone. [Comedy is] a solo sport. And so, you know, you're playing an Improv in the middle of America and you're just like, 'Wow, it'd be really great to get to a place where I could make $400 a weekend.' It'd be great to get these shows sold out. I never looked beyond that because you're working, I was working so hard to sell the T-shirts that I brought with me to fill that room to get past just a regular guarantee and get to a door deal. Like there's all these little levels. The internet was around, but we didn't have comedy on social media in the way that we do now. I wish that we had. It would have been so much better for me. So it was never about looking at someone like Chris Rock, which was so out of the stratosphere. Like those are just celebrities. It was just about [putting] one foot in front of the other. I had no idea how much money could be made. I got into comedy because I just loved doing it and that begot so much else. There's micro goals, but the [biggest] goal is always to be artistically fulfilled and always leveling up at every stage, which is why I'm in this outfit. And we appreciate it. I think your viewers will too. You have so many layers to this special. Is there something that you would hope that fans walk away with after watching it? My only hope ever is that people walk away feeling great. I say these things for me just as much as the fans. I hope that men come away a little bit softer with women. I hope women come away feeling a little bit better. I hope everybody comes away with their faces in pain from laughing so hard. What I want is for you to have a great time, truly — and to admit that the pants were hot fire.
