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Intel's lackluster Arrow Lake appears to have a refresh inbound — Arrow Lake Refresh appears in reference document
When you buy through links on our articles, Future and its syndication partners may earn a commission. If we are to believe a leaked manual for an upcoming Intel W880 motherboard, the Intel Arrow Lake-S processor will seemingly have a refresh successor. Popular hardware leaker momomo_us shared an image of the purported motherboard reference document with the CPU labeled Arrow Lake S/Arrow Lake S Refresh. Previous rumors point to another generation of the Arrow Lake architecture, focusing only on high-end K and KF chips. So, it would make sense for motherboards designed for high-end workstations to take advantage of this refresh. Unfortunately, we do not see any other information on the document, so we will have to wait and see if manufacturers of more mainstream consumer and enthusiast motherboards will release new models for this alleged Arrow Lake update. The Intel Core Ultra 200S series arrived on the scene in October 2024, around two months after the company released its disastrous financial report. Team Blue sorely needed a win to help it get back on course—unfortunately, the Arrow Lake wasn't it, as sales for its latest processor stagnated just a week after its launch. After half a year on the market, the company still struggles to sell its AI chips, with many customers preferring the older Raptor Lake CPUs. One reason behind this could be the chip's lack of gaming prowess. It has consistently trailed behind AMD's outstanding offerings, especially the Ryzen 7 9800X3D, and was even outperformed by Intel's own last-generation chips. And even though the Arrow Lake processors boast an NPU and offer higher AI processing power, most buyers don't care about that. This, combined with the higher prices, meant that there was low demand for these CPUs. If the Arrow Lake-S Refresh chips are indeed arriving, Intel must address the gaming performance issues. Otherwise, buyers would shun them and instead flock towards options that deliver more FPS and do not bottleneck other components. Despite all the negativity in the gaming space for the Arrow Lake-S chips, Intel has made some interesting innovations in the processor. It has improved power consumption and efficiency, reducing its cooling requirements. It's also a productivity powerhouse, with the Intel Core Ultra 9 285K beating most of its competitors in Cinebench. This was the first Intel desktop CPU to use a chiplet-based design, so it's bound to have first-generation hiccups. Hopefully, the company can fix some of the concerns with the refresh, allowing us to get the most out of the Arrow Lake architecture. Follow Tom's Hardware on Google News to get our up-to-date news, analysis, and reviews in your feeds. Make sure to click the Follow button.
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3 days ago
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Your Intel CPU Cooler Will Probably Work on Nova Lake
Intel's next-generation Nova Lake desktop processors may use similar socket dimensions as existing Raptor Lake and Arrow Lake CPU sockets, suggesting that coolers should be compatible between generations. This comes despite the new socket, termed LGA 1954, sporting more pins than older LGA 1700 and 1851 standards. AMD's Ryzen CPUs aside, it's been traditional that CPU sockets tend to only last a couple of years or generations, which means anyone upgrading will need a new motherboard. Often, with additional pins on the new design, it required a new physical configuration, too, which meant coolers from the last generation didn't always fit without some kind of additional kit or bracket. But Intel may be looking to continue the bucking of that trend with its new Nova Lake CPUs. Intel made the surprise move to maintain cooler compatibility between its LGA 1700 socket (12th, 13th, 14th Generation CPUs) and LGA 1851 socket (Core Ultra 200). And now the rumors are that it'll do the same with the next-generation socket: LGA 1954. A new motherboard will still be required for the new generation of CPUs, as the LGA 1954 socket will sport over 100 more pins than the older 1851 design. But the specific dimensions of the CPU—45mm x 37.5mm—will remain the same, according to Twitter leaker Ruby_Rapids, allowing for potential cooler compatibility—assuming Intel doesn't change the mounting pin placement for the new socket. It's not yet clear what the additional pins will be used for, but rumors suggest that Nova Lake will be a dramatic revolution of Intel's CPU designs. The flagship chip of its generation will reportedly be the first consumer CPU to break 50 cores, offering 16 Coyote Cove Performance cores and 32 Arctic Wolf efficiency cores, as per Wccftech. It will even have an additional four low-power efficiency cores, giving it potentially unprecedented multitasking capabilities with excellent idle efficiency. Much of its real-world performance could stem from what process node it ends up on, though. Intel may use its own 14A process node, but there's also talk of some of the chip's tiles being based on TSMC's 2nm process. As exciting as all this is, though, it's still a long way off. With a suggested 2026 launch date, Intel will likely remain firmly behind AMD on the gaming front for some time to come. It has yet to provide an adequate answer for the sterling gaming performance of AMD's X3D CPUs.
Yahoo
21-05-2025
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Intel's next batch of CPUs might still be called Core Ultra 200S, possibly because the Arrow Lake refresh won't be much of a boost
When you buy through links on our articles, Future and its syndication partners may earn a commission. Over the years of producing CPUs, Intel has a long history of refreshing its current architecture, rather than wholesale replacing it. The updates typically offer higher clock speeds and occasionally a new feature or two, but they've always involved a new name for the processors. However, for the Arrow Lake refresh, it's being claimed that the tweaked chips will still be called Core Ultra 200S. Admittedly, it's just the one person making the claim, X-user Jaykin (via Videocardz), but they have a good track record when it comes to tech leaks and rumours. Jaykin also suggests that the Arrow Lake refresh will involve an updated NPU (neural processing unit), courtesy of a larger SoC tile. Both desktop and mobile variants of Arrow Lake (ARL-S and ARL-HX, respectively) will still have the same package size and, in the case of the former, will still use the LGA1851 socket. While that doesn't automatically mean your current Z890 or B850 motherboard will support the refreshed chips, there's a good chance it will. In previous years, when Intel launched a refreshed CPU line-up, it has always renamed the chips. So why would Team Blue stick with Core Ultra 200S? I suspect that it's because there will be no changes that affect their fundamental performance, such as higher clock speeds, more cores, or a faster memory system. If the only thing that's being improved is the NPU (possibly to ensure that Intel's chips now meet Microsoft's requirements for its Copilot AI PC ecosystem), then the new processors would perform no better than the current ones do in games, content creation, and general use. Then again, the recently launched Core 200S Boost feature showed there is some scope for improving the performance of Arrow Lake without having to change various internal components. In other words, Intel could tweak all of the internal clocks and timings, plus add a larger NPU, and have a big enough difference in performance to warrant calling them Core Ultra 300S. After all, it was happy to refresh its Raptor Lake-powered Core 13th Gen series, call it Core 14th Gen, and barely change anything other than the boost clocks and power consumption. I suspect that Intel wants to keep Core Ultra 300S for its next generation of CPU architectures, namely Panther Lake for mobile platforms and Nova Lake for desktops, both targeted for release in 2026. Your next upgrade Best CPU for gaming: The top chips from Intel and gaming motherboard: The right graphics card: Your perfect pixel-pusher SSD for gaming: Get into the game ahead of the rest. These are expected to be significantly better in performance than the current Lunar Lake and Arrow Lake processors, and given the lacklustre reception the latter received, it makes sense to keep the new name for something that's (hopefully) a lot better. One concern that I have is whether the Arrow Lake refresh is going to be the last processor that supports Intel's LGA1851 socket. If it is and the refreshed chips aren't any better in gaming, for example, then it would be really disappointing to see. AMD was still releasing CPUs for its AM4 socket last year, a good eight years after it first appeared, and while Intel is well-known for changing its sockets every couple of processor generations, you'd think it would take a leaf from Team Red's book of design and make something that lasts. Of course, changing the socket forces OEMs and system builders to push out entirely new platforms, which in turn helps Intel shift a whole heap of processors. Hopefully, the Arrow Lake refresh does offer more than just a larger NPU because, as things currently stand, I wouldn't recommend that any PC gamer buy a Core Ultra 200S chip. It's not bad, but regardless of what your budget is or what your use scenario for the processor is, there are far better CPUs out there to choose from.
Yahoo
20-05-2025
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Intel's next batch of CPUs might still be called Core Ultra 200S, possibly because the Arrow Lake refresh won't be much of a boost
When you buy through links on our articles, Future and its syndication partners may earn a commission. Over the years of producing CPUs, Intel has a long history of refreshing its current architecture, rather than wholesale replacing it. The updates typically offer higher clock speeds and occasionally a new feature or two, but they've always involved a new name for the processors. However, for the Arrow Lake refresh, it's being claimed that the tweaked chips will still be called Core Ultra 200S. Admittedly, it's just the one person making the claim, X-user Jaykin (via Videocardz), but they have a good track record when it comes to tech leaks and rumours. Jaykin also suggests that the Arrow Lake refresh will involve an updated NPU (neural processing unit), courtesy of a larger SoC tile. Both desktop and mobile variants of Arrow Lake (ARL-S and ARL-HX, respectively) will still have the same package size and, in the case of the former, will still use the LGA1851 socket. While that doesn't automatically mean your current Z890 or B850 motherboard will support the refreshed chips, there's a good chance it will. In previous years, when Intel launched a refreshed CPU line-up, it has always renamed the chips. So why would Team Blue stick with Core Ultra 200S? I suspect that it's because there will be no changes that affect their fundamental performance, such as higher clock speeds, more cores, or a faster memory system. If the only thing that's being improved is the NPU (possibly to ensure that Intel's chips now meet Microsoft's requirements for its Copilot AI PC ecosystem), then the new processors would perform no better than the current ones do in games, content creation, and general use. Then again, the recently launched Core 200S Boost feature showed there is some scope for improving the performance of Arrow Lake without having to change various internal components. In other words, Intel could tweak all of the internal clocks and timings, plus add a larger NPU, and have a big enough difference in performance to warrant calling them Core Ultra 300S. After all, it was happy to refresh its Raptor Lake-powered Core 13th Gen series, call it Core 14th Gen, and barely change anything other than the boost clocks and power consumption. I suspect that Intel wants to keep Core Ultra 300S for its next generation of CPU architectures, namely Panther Lake for mobile platforms and Nova Lake for desktops, both targeted for release in 2026. Your next upgrade Best CPU for gaming: The top chips from Intel and gaming motherboard: The right graphics card: Your perfect pixel-pusher SSD for gaming: Get into the game ahead of the rest. These are expected to be significantly better in performance than the current Lunar Lake and Arrow Lake processors, and given the lacklustre reception the latter received, it makes sense to keep the new name for something that's (hopefully) a lot better. One concern that I have is whether the Arrow Lake refresh is going to be the last processor that supports Intel's LGA1851 socket. If it is and the refreshed chips aren't any better in gaming, for example, then it would be really disappointing to see. AMD was still releasing CPUs for its AM4 socket last year, a good eight years after it first appeared, and while Intel is well-known for changing its sockets every couple of processor generations, you'd think it would take a leaf from Team Red's book of design and make something that lasts. Of course, changing the socket forces OEMs and system builders to push out entirely new platforms, which in turn helps Intel shift a whole heap of processors. Hopefully, the Arrow Lake refresh does offer more than just a larger NPU because, as things currently stand, I wouldn't recommend that any PC gamer buy a Core Ultra 200S chip. It's not bad, but regardless of what your budget is or what your use scenario for the processor is, there are far better CPUs out there to choose from.
The Verge
19-05-2025
- Business
- The Verge
Dell's upcoming Pro Max Plus workstation laptops are getting dedicated NPUs.
Dell is putting Qualcomm Cloud AI 100 chips into its high-end Pro Max Plus laptops, capable of up to 350 TOPS. That's about nine times more TOPS than a consumer-grade Copilot Plus PC, reserved for professionals who need to run hefty AI models locally. There's no pricing, availability, or full configuration specs yet, but they'll have Intel Arrow Lake CPUs, up to 256GB of RAM, and likely very lofty prices.
