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The Guardian
4 days ago
- Politics
- The Guardian
The Ice alert app founder sparking fury in Trump officials: ‘Pam Bondi said I better watch out? Please.'
For many undocumented immigrants living in the US, the constant threat of Ice raids has turned their homes into prisons. Leaving the house to go to work, school, buy groceries or the doctor's office all carry unthinkable risks. It's a problem that Joshua Aaron wanted to tackle. A former indie musician (he played bass in 2000s buzz band The Rosenbergs and later fronted his own group Stealing Heather) turned app entrepreneur, he set about making an app that could spot Ice and alert people, the same way drivers let other drivers know about traffic stops on Waze. Launched without fanfare and with no intention of profit in April 2025, IceBlock offers real-time alerts about the presence of agents – while, Aaron claims, fiercely guarding the anonymity of its users. Within two months, the app had soared on the charts in Apple's app store – prompting the US homeland security secretary, Kristi Noem, to attack the app and its founder, claiming they were 'obstructing justice'. She claimed she wanted to work with the Department of Justice to try to prosecute CNN for reporting on the app. Noem's intervention ensured the app topped the charts for a number of days (although it has since fallen out of the top 100). Then last month Aaron's wife, Carolyn Feinstein, was fired from her Department of Justice job in Austin, Texas. The couple believe it was clear 'retaliation' for the app, despite Feinstein not being involved in the app's creation or promotion. Aaron is an unlikely figure in this space – he has a brash, rock'n'roll demeanor and not much experience in immigration activism. His background has led to some questions about how well the app protects its users, especially as it asks you to keep your location data on at all times. But a number of independent investigations have shown he is managing to keep users anonymous. Aaron spoke with the Guardian a week after his wife's firing. First of all, what happened to your wife? Why was she fired? They fired her as retribution against me. They can't do shit to me. I'm not going to be afraid. So they fired her. Were they explicit in in why they were firing her? No, that's the crazy part, in her termination letter, she got accused of lack of candor but they didn't mention the app. But the Department of Justice responded to every journalist that reached out in, like, five minutes. They had a prepared statement for an auditor in Austin? In the US trustee department? They have nothing to do with immigration. They have nothing to do with anything else with the DoJ, they're a whole separate division that handles bankruptcy. What did they say? They had this prepared statement, they accused her of threatening law enforcement officers and endangering the lives of Ice agents and all this horrible shit. It was very different from her termination letter. The whole thing started when Laura Loomer doxed her on X and then said that she spoke to Tom Homan. Homan goes on Newsmax and says that he spoke to the DoJ, which obviously is [headed by] Pam Bondi. Twenty-four hours later, my wife gets a termination letter from the deputy director of the DoJ. It was pretty obvious that it went from Loomer to Homan and to Bondi to 'You're fired.' That was it. [A spokesperson for the Department of Justice said they discovered his wife, Feinstein, has a sizable interest in All U Chart Inc, the company that holds the IP for IceBlock. In a statement, they said: 'ICEBlock is an app that illegal aliens use to evade capture while endangering the lives of ICE officers by disclosing their location. This DOJ will not tolerate threats against law enforcement officers.' Aaron acknowledged that his wife always owns a 20% share in any company he starts. He describes this as a security precaution: if something were to happen to him, Feinstein would have the legal ability to take over the company without complications. He says she had no involvement in the development or operation of the IceBlock app.] It must be tough for your family. She worked there for almost a decade. She has decades of experience in the private sector, and she's really, really good at what she does, and was honestly beloved by everyone she worked with. They just basically fired her and accused her of all this horrible stuff, and none of it's true. It really, really sucks. She misses it terribly. Are you worried about other ways the Trump administration might retaliate? Well, you have Pam Bondi accusing me and saying, I better 'watch out.' Please, come on. I better watch out? Why? I'm protected under the first amendment. This is perfectly legal, and I made sure of that – I checked with multiple constitutional attorneys and criminal attorneys before I released this app, because I was concerned about whether I'm protected. And everyone agreed 100% this is protected speech. Can you explain briefly how IceBlock works? Well it can only be downloaded from the US app store, and people can only report sightings within a five-mile radius of where they are currently. Then all sightings get deleted after four hours. So let's say there are 100 people in a five-mile area, and one person sees Ice – they're walking down the street, whatever – and they go, 'Oh, shit.' And they report it. All the other users in that five-mile radius get an immediate notification that shows up on their phone. The app has been live for quite a few months. Do you get the sense it's actually being used to by people who are worried about Ice? I have no idea, because it's 100% anonymous. We don't track those metrics. I get asked all the time: 'Where are most of your users?' I have no fucking idea. 'How many sightings do you get per hour?' I don't know. We don't track this. It's so hard to answer these basic questions that normal apps would be able to answer because there is the whole core principle of anonymity. We don't have that data, and I don't want it. The only thing I can tell you is that currently on the app we have 445 sightings nationwide [likely over a four-hour window due to the fact that sightings stay up for four hours once reported] and we have just about 1 million users that have this installed on their phones right now. But is it being downloaded by well-meaning liberals who support what you're doing? Or is it doing its practical job and helping undocumented people as a practical tool in their lives? Maybe we just can't know that yet? I would say this, most people who download the app are doing it to keep themselves safe, so they want to know what's going on around their five-mile radius. So yes, I think it's very much being used for how it's intended to be used. I didn't want to have to build this, but it is a necessity. It is a tool as this early warning system that does keep people safe, and it is, I think, giving people peace of mind, especially those who are most affected by it or most at risk. It allows them to go to that restaurant or walk around that neighborhood with a little bit of peace of mind. What were the initial fears and challenges? Did you worry about whether the Apple app store was going to allow it on? How confident was I I could do it? I don't want to sound egotistical – and don't print this so I sound like a fucking asshole – but, dude, I can fucking do it. Of course, I could do it. Even with my music career, I built audio studios, and I was a producer and a mix engineer, and I designed gear. So I've always kind of been on that tech engineering side of things like, that's just how my brain works. And I've been coding a healthcare app for the past four and a half years. So as far as could I write the code? Could I make it happen? This is a crazy easy app. Would it be approved by Apple? That was an interesting one, because nothing like it has ever been done before. When I brought it to Apple and I submitted it to the app store, it got pushed back, and it took three weeks of going back and forth with Apple's legal department and higher-ups in Apple's app review, and there were conversations almost on a daily basis with senior people there saying: 'Is this even legal? Can we do this? Are we going to get in trouble for having this?' Apple had a hard time wrapping their head around it, because they were like, 'What do you mean you're never going to make money? What do you mean you're never going to track anything?' I was like, 'Yeah, that's the point. I don't care.' I don't care about people's data as far as, like, being able to get analytics or track them or sell their data. I don't care about any of that. I care about keeping people safe. That is literally the whole point. Eventually they allowed it on. Because there are no user accounts, and no way of you seeing what's happening on the app, there's no way to block bad actors. Does that mean there is a possibility of people reporting false sightings? I can't verify the sightings without driving to rural Indiana and seeing if they're there. I've put in safeguards: you can only report a sighting once every five minutes so you can't just spam the database; all sightings are deleted after four hours; it has to be a real address – you can't type in 123 Main Street; and you can only report within your own five-mile radius. So with all of those safeguards – are there any false sightings? Yes, of course there are. Are they prevalent? No, because it would be too time-consuming. And what's the worst-case scenario for a false sighting anyway? That a user gets a notification on their device and says: 'Hey, I'll stay away from that address for a couple hours?' Who gives a shit. So beyond helping people – what's your personal interest in developing these apps? You're also working on a healthcare app, which is also focused on keeping patient data private. Yes, my whole thing is very, very privacy-focused. I don't use Gmail. I run my own mail servers. I run my own web servers. I have always done that because I just don't trust these companies who are reading all of your messages, and they're doing it to harvest your data and market to you. I want myself to be private. I'm an individual. I think that lent quite a bit to the way that I thought about IceBlock. I've had my IceBlock open while we've been on the phone, and there's been one reported sighting in my area. Yeah, isn't that nice to know that? I mean, you're British right, obviously you are not a native-born American. So now you know maybe don't go over in that area for the next couple hours. Not a big deal. This interview has been edited and condensed for clarity This article was 13 August 2025; a previous version incorrectly said that Carolyn Feinstein was arrested, not fired.
The Guardian
5 days ago
- Politics
- The Guardian
The Ice alert app founder sparking fury in Trump officials: 'Pam Bondi said I better watch out? Please.'
For many undocumented immigrants living in the US, the constant threat of Ice raids has turned their homes into prisons. Leaving the house to go to work, school, buy groceries or the doctor's office all carry unthinkable risks. It's a problem that Joshua Aaron wanted to tackle. A former indie musician (he played bass in 2000s buzz band The Rosenbergs and later fronted his own group Stealing Heather) turned app entrepreneur, he set about making an app that could spot Ice and alert people, the same way drivers let other drivers know about traffic stops on Waze. Launched without fanfare and with no intention of profit in April 2025, IceBlock offers real-time alerts about the presence of agents – while, Aaron claims, fiercely guarding the anonymity of its users. Within two months, the app had soared on the charts in Apple's app store – prompting US homeland security secretary Kristi Noem to attack the app and its founder, claiming they were 'obstructing justice'. She claimed she wanted to work with the Department of Justice to try to prosecute CNN for reporting on the app. Noem's intervention ensured the app topped the charts for a number of days (although it has since fallen out of the top 100). Then last month Aaron's wife, Carolyn Feinstein, was fired from her Department of Justice job in Austin, Texas. The couple believe it was clear 'retaliation' for the app, despite Feinstein not being involved in the app's creation or promotion. Aaron is an unlikely figure in this space – he has a brash, rock'n'roll demeanor and not much experience in immigration activism. His background has led to some questions about how well the app protects its users, especially as it asks you to keep your location data on at all times. But a number of independent investigations have shown he is managing to keep users anonymous. Aaron spoke with the Guardian a week after his wife's arrest. First of all, what happened to your wife? Why was she fired? They fired her as retribution against me. They can't do shit to me. I'm not going to be afraid. So they fired her. Were they explicit in in why they were firing her? No, that's the crazy part, in her termination letter, she got accused of lack of candor but they didn't mention the app. But the Department of Justice responded to every journalist that reached out in, like, five minutes. They had a prepared statement for an auditor in Austin? In the US trustee department? They have nothing to do with immigration. They have nothing to do with anything else with the DoJ, they're a whole separate division that handles bankruptcy. What did they say? They had this prepared statement, they accused her of threatening law enforcement officers and endangering the lives of Ice agents and all this horrible shit. It was very different from her termination letter. The whole thing started when Laura Loomer doxed her on X and then said that she spoke to Tom Homan. Homan goes on Newsmax and says that he spoke to the DoJ, which obviously is [headed by] Pam Bondi. Twenty-four hours later, my wife gets a termination letter from the deputy director of the DoJ. It was pretty obvious that it went from Loomer to Homan and to Bondi to 'You're fired.' That was it. It must be tough for your family. She worked there for almost a decade. She has decades of experience in the private sector, and she's really, really good at what she does, and was honestly beloved by everyone she worked with. They just basically fired her and accused her of all this horrible stuff, and none of it's true. It really, really sucks. She misses it terribly. Are you worried about other ways the Trump administration might retaliate? Well, you have Pam Bondi accusing me and saying, I better 'watch out.' Please, come on. I better watch out? Why? I'm protected under the first amendment. This is perfectly legal, and I made sure of that – I checked with multiple constitutional attorneys and criminal attorneys before I released this app, because I was concerned about whether I'm protected. And everyone agreed 100% this is protected speech. Can you explain briefly how IceBlock works? Well it can only be downloaded from the US app store, and people can only report sightings within a five-mile radius of where they are currently. Then all sightings get deleted after four hours. So let's say there are 100 people in a five-mile area, and one person sees Ice – they're walking down the street, whatever – and they go, 'Oh, shit.' And they report it. All the other users in that five-mile radius get an immediate notification that shows up on their phone. The app has been live for quite a few months. Do you get the sense it's actually being used to by people who are worried about Ice? I have no idea, because it's 100% anonymous. We don't track those metrics. I get asked all the time: 'Where are most of your users?' I have no fucking idea. 'How many sightings do you get per hour?' I don't know. We don't track this. It's so hard to answer these basic questions that normal apps would be able to answer because there is the whole core principle of anonymity. We don't have that data, and I don't want it. The only thing I can tell you is that currently on the app we have 445 sightings nationwide [likely over a four-hour window due to the fact that sightings stay up for four hours once reported] and we have just about 1 million users that have this installed on their phones right now. But is it being downloaded by well-meaning liberals who support what you're doing? Or is it doing its practical job and helping undocumented people as a practical tool in their lives? Maybe we just can't know that yet? I would say this, most people who download the app are doing it to keep themselves safe, so they want to know what's going on around their five-mile radius. So yes, I think it's very much being used for how it's intended to be used. I didn't want to have to build this, but it is a necessity. It is a tool as this early warning system that does keep people safe, and it is, I think, giving people peace of mind, especially those who are most affected by it or most at risk. It allows them to go to that restaurant or walk around that neighborhood with a little bit of peace of mind. What were the initial fears and challenges? Did you worry about whether the Apple app store was going to allow it on? How confident was I could do it? I don't want to sound egotistical – and don't print this so I sound like a fucking asshole – but, dude, I can fucking do it. Of course, I could do it. Even with my music career, I built audio studios, and I was a producer and a mix engineer, and I designed gear. So I've always kind of been on that tech engineering side of things like, that's just how my brain works. And I've been coding a healthcare app for the past four and a half years. So as far as could I write the code? Could I make it happen? This is a crazy easy app. Would it be approved by Apple? That was an interesting one, because nothing like it has ever been done before. When I brought it to Apple and I submitted it to the app store, it got pushed back, and it took three weeks of going back and forth with Apple's legal department and higher ups in Apple's app review, and there were conversations almost on a daily basis with senior people there saying: 'Is this even legal? Can we do this? Are we going to get in trouble for having this?' Apple had a hard time wrapping their head around it, because they were like, 'What do you mean you're never going to make money? What do you mean you're never going to track anything?' I was like, 'Yeah, that's the point. I don't care.' I don't care about people's data as far as, like, being able to get analytics or track them or sell their data. I don't care about any of that. I care about keeping people safe. That is literally the whole point. Eventually they allowed it on. (Apple and the Department of Justice did not return requests for comment.) Because there are no user accounts, and no way of you seeing what's happening on the app, there's no way to block bad actors. Does that mean there is a possibility of people reporting false sightings? I can't verify the sightings without driving to rural Indiana and seeing if they're there. I've put in safeguards: you can only report a sighting once every five minutes so you can't just spam the database; all sightings are deleted after four hours; it has to be a real address – you can't type in 123 Main Street; and you can only report within your own five-mile radius. So with all of those safeguards – are there any false sightings? Yes, of course there are. Are they prevalent? No, because it would be too time consuming. And what's the worst case scenario for a false sighting anyway? That a user gets a notification on their device and says: 'Hey, I'll stay away from that address for a couple hours?' Who gives a shit. So beyond helping people – what's your personal interest in developing these apps? You're also working on a healthcare app which is also focused on keeping patient data private. Yes, my whole thing is very, very privacy focused. I don't use Gmail. I run my own mail servers. I run my own web servers. I have always done that because I just don't trust these companies who are reading all of your messages, and they're doing it to harvest your data and market to you. I want myself to be private. I'm an individual. I think that lent quite a bit to the way that I thought about IceBlock. I've had my IceBlock open while we've been on the phone, and there's been one reported sighting in my area. Yeah, isn't that nice to know that? I mean, you're British right, obviously you are not a native-born American. So now you know maybe don't go over in that area for the next couple hours. Not a big deal. This interview has been edited and condensed for clarity
The National
22-07-2025
- Business
- The National
Wife of ICEBlock developer considers legal options after firing from Justice Department
A woman who was fired as an auditor for the US government because of an immigration police-tracking app her husband created says she is weighing her legal options. The Department of Justice says Carolyn Feinstein has a 'sizeable interest' in the company which developed the ICEBlock app, ALL U Chart. Trump administration officials have taken issue with the app, which has more than one million downloads and allows users to report sightings of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officials. 'ICEBlock is an app that illegal aliens use to evade capture while endangering the lives of ICE officers by disclosing their location,' a Justice Department representative told The National. 'This DoJ will not tolerate threats against law enforcement or law enforcement officers.' Ms Feinstein, who worked from the DoJ's Austin, Texas office as a forensic auditor, was fired from her job at the weekend. She told The National that while she owns a portion of All U Chart, her husband, Joshua Aaron, is the majority owner. She said she is listed as a stakeholder so she could wind down the company in the event something were to happen to her husband. 'I had no part in developing the app, coding the app, or marketing the app in any way,' she said. 'My only relation to it is that I'm married to the creator.' She said she is exploring potential legal options to challenge her dismissal, and looking for new career opportunities. 'There's going to be bigger and better things out there,' she said. Mr Aaron said his company, All U Chart, is currently working on a healthcare app unrelated to the ICEBlock app that has become the source of ire in the Trump administration. Since its release this year, the app has gained popularity as President Donald Trump approved significant funding increases for ICE, whose mandate includes detaining and deporting undocumented immigrants. Masked ICE agents have swept up thousands of migrants in a nationwide dragnet that has sometimes snared US citizens and green card holders. Current and former detainees have said they were kept in dismal conditions in ICE custody, charges the agency denies. 'When I saw what was happening in this country I knew I had to do something to fight back,' said Mr Aaron, who lives in Texas, a state with a large undocumented immigrant population. Mr Aaron, who is Jewish, told The National in an interview last week that he had decided to create the app after meeting Holocaust survivors and learning about Adolf Hitler's rise to power in Nazi Germany. The app aims to alert users to the presence of ICE officials within an 8km radius. It is powered by crowdsourced data and relies on people reporting where ICE agents are. ICEBlock also allows users to describe the vehicles ICE agents are using and the clothes they are wearing. When a sighting is reported, push notifications are sent to nearby users. It is only available for iPhone. According to Mr Aaron, the privacy settings he deems necessary for ICEBlock are not yet possible on Android devices. US Attorney General Pam Bondi has suggested that the app should be considered illegal, and recently told Fox News that the Justice Department was 'looking into' the developer, Mr Aaron. Mr Aaron acknowledges criticism that the software has the potential to be misused, as the Trump administration has claimed violence against ICE agents is on the rise. 'Please note that the use of this app is for information and notification purposes only,' reads a disclaimer appearing throughout ICEBlock, with an added warning that the app should not be used 'for the purposes of inciting violence or interfering with law enforcement'. Mr Aaron says ICEBlock is strictly designed to inform, and not to obstruct. Laura Loomer, a far-right activist well known for her controversial and xenophobic comments, posted information about his wife on X last week. 'I reviewed Carolyn's LinkedIn page, and she has been working for the DOJ since January 2021 when Joe Biden assumed office,' said Ms Loomer's post.
Newsweek
22-07-2025
- Politics
- Newsweek
Wife of ICEBlock App Founder Speaks Out After DOJ Fires Her
Based on facts, either observed and verified firsthand by the reporter, or reported and verified from knowledgeable sources. Newsweek AI is in beta. Translations may contain inaccuracies—please refer to the original content. The wife of the creator of an app that lets users track the real-time location of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents said she has been fired from her job at the Department of Justice (DOJ). Carolyn Feinstein said that she had been dismissed from her auditing job as a "retaliation" for her husband, Joshua Aaron's activism, which ICE and the Department of Homeland Security have condemned as putting federal agents' lives at risk. The DOJ told Newsweek: "For several weeks, the Department of Justice inquired into this former employee's activities and discovered she has a sizable interest in All U Chart, Inc., the company that holds the IP for ICEBlock. ICEBlock is an app that illegal aliens use to evade capture while endangering the lives of ICE officers by disclosing their location. This DOJ will not tolerate threats against law enforcement or law enforcement officers." Newsweek also reached out to the Department of Homeland Security and Joshua Aaron via email for comment. Why It Matters The ICEBlock app allows users to access and update a real-time map of ICE activity across the United States. Aaron created it to help people avoid encounters with ICE, and he has repeatedly stated that it is not designed to interfere with law enforcement. However, the Department of Homeland Security has said the app "paints a target on federal law enforcement officers' backs." What To Know In an interview with MSW Media on Monday, Feinstein said that she had been planning to spend her entire career at the DOJ and suspected that there were political motivations behind her removal. The Daily Beast published a copy of her termination letter from the department. "I got an email informing me that I was terminated effectively immediately," Feinstein said. "There was no notice and no phone calls; it was just an immediate termination via email. "I wasn't just terminated, I was targeted. I was fired as retaliation for my husband's activism. It's probably been about a week and a half since people realized I was married to Joshua Aaron. It was never concealed or secret; I think people just hadn't realized it yet. "Since then, there has been an outcry for my firing, accusing me of everything from providing information to the app, through my position with the U.S. trustee, to outright treason, and none of that is true. Aaron has been extremely critical of ICE's actions and compared the deportations to the politics of Nazi Germany while speaking to Newsweek earlier this month. "When we see ICE agents outside of elementary schools, disappearing college students for their political beliefs or ripping babies from their mothers' arms as they scream for their children, we all know their rhetoric of 'getting rid of the worst of the worst' is a lie," Aaron said. "As I often say, if you ever wondered what you would've done if you lived in Germany during Hitler's rise to power, wonder no more because you're doing it right now. Developing ICEBlock was my way of joining the fight and giving people a chance to help protect themselves and their communities." File photo of ICE agents waiting to detain a person in Silver Spring, Maryland, on January 27, 2025. File photo of ICE agents waiting to detain a person in Silver Spring, Maryland, on January 27, 2025. AP Photo/Alex Brandon, File What People Are Saying Todd M. Lyons, the acting director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, said in a statement to Newsweek following a CNN segment about ICEBlock on July 2: "Advertising an app that basically paints a target on federal law enforcement officers' backs is sickening. "My officers and agents are already facing a 500 percent increase in assaults, and going on live television to announce an app that lets anyone zero in on their locations is like inviting violence against them with a national megaphone. "CNN is willfully endangering the lives of officers who put their lives on the line every day and enabling dangerous criminal aliens to evade U.S. law. Is this simply reckless 'journalism' or overt activism?" What Happens Next Feinstein has said that she is considering taking legal action against the DOJ for wrongful termination.
Daily Mail
22-07-2025
- Politics
- Daily Mail
DOJ staffer is fired after feds discover she's married to radical behind anti-ICE app
A Department of Justice employee has claimed she was fired when the feds discovered her husband developed an anti-ICE phone app. Carolyn Feinstein, who is married to ICEBlock developer Joshua Aaron, said she was unfairly removed from her post in 'retribution' against her partner's work. The ICEBlock app sets out warning signals to users when ICE agents are within a five-mile radius of their location, allowing targets to flee. After Aaron was exposed online for creating the app, Feinstein said she was terminated from her post as a forensic accountant after almost a decade working for the DoJ. 'This was retribution. I was fired because of the actions, or activism, of my husband,' Texas -based Feinstein told the Daily Beast on Monday. 'It is insulting to me because I dedicated myself and my career to serving the people of the United States, and now the DOJ is claiming I was attempting to harm some of them. And that's not true.' Feinstein, who specializes in bankruptcy fraud, said she felt 'targeted' because of her husband's app, which has been downloaded almost one million times. Aaron had not been hiding his role in creating the app - he spoke with CNN in June explaining how the app works, and faced fierce criticism from MAGA fans afterward. The ICEBlock app (pictured above) sets out warning signals to users when ICE agents are within a five-mile radius of their location, allowing targets to flee federal agents 'When I saw what was happening in this country, I wanted to do something to fight back,' Aaron told CNN. He went on to compare the Trump administration's immigration crackdown to purges carried out by the Nazi regime in 1930's Germany. 'We're literally watching history repeat itself,' he said. The interview prompted a flood of MAGA rage online, while Trump administration officials like border tsar Tom Homan and ICE acting director Tom Lyon called on the DoJ to investigate the matter. 'We will not be intimidated. We will not be deterred,' Aaron told The Daily Beast at the time. 'As long as ICE agents have quotas, and this administration ignores people's Constitutional rights, we will continue fighting back. No human is illegal.' Feinstein said she responded by telling her bosses about her relationship with Aaron. 'Since we live in the same house, I thought it was pertinent to contact my employer, the DOJ, to notify them of death threats that were coming in and just in case I needed to be out of the office, so they would be prepared,' she told the Daily Beast. Feinstein was then contacted by officials who asked her about her association with the ICEBlock app. 'I informed them in so many words that I really didn't have any relationship or involvement in the app, I was married to the creator,' she said. But Homan said he had contacted the DoJ airing concerns about the connection. He told NewsMax that 'all (Aaron is) doing is giving a heads up to criminals'. 'The DOJ's looking at it, and they need to throw some people in jail,' he said. Feinstein says she received her termination note 'within 24 hours' of Homan's Newsmax interview airing. A DoJ spokesperson told the Daily Beast the department had spent 'several weeks' investigating Feinstein's activities and discovered that she has interests in the company that holds the IP for the ICEBlock app. Feinstein argued that her minority shareholder status in All U Chart Inc is just a safety net so that 'if Joshua were incapacitated, or further, I have the ability to shut it down'. 'ICEBlock is an app that illegal aliens use to evade capture while endangering the lives of ICE officers,' a DoJ spokesperson told the Daily Beast. They added that the department 'will not tolerate threats against law enforcement or law enforcement officers.'
