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Tom's Guide
21-05-2025
- Entertainment
- Tom's Guide
How to watch 'Couples Therapy' season 4B - Stream online from anywhere
Let's deal with the 4B thing first. "Couples Therapy" season 4B means season 4 part 2 but why they're not calling it that is anybody's guess. However, it's business as usual with nine more episodes and four more couples with seemingly intractable problems. "Couples Therapy" season 4B premieres exclusively on Paramount Plus in the U.S. and internationally — viewers can watch it from anywhere with a VPN. "Couples Therapy" season 4B will premiere on Friday, May 23 with the first three episodes back-to-back starting at 9 p.m. ET/PT for subscribers with the Paramount+ with SHOWTIME plan. • U.S./CAN/AUS/U.K. — Paramount Plus• Watch anywhere — try NordVPN 100% risk-free The press release teases, "Dr. Orna Guralnik navigates a thorny brew of recriminations, conflict and painful truths with four new couples" but is the outlook really that grim? Well, there's a deaf man and his hearing partner torn between sexual freedom and commitment and a therapist-writer duo locked in a zero-sum battle of sacrifice and grievance that causes Dr Guralnik to question he own methods. Oh, and a young couple haunted by trauma and buried secrets and a long-married pair trapped in cycles of bickering and avoidance so it's probably not ideal viewing for a romantic night in. So, yes, quite grim but you both might just learn something... Here's our guide to how to watch "Couples Therapy" season 4B online and from anywhere in the world. In the U.S., "Couples Therapy" premieres on Friday, May 23 with the first three episodes back-to-back starting at 9 p.m. ET. for subscribers with the Paramount+ with SHOWTIME plan. Paramount Plus (7-day FREE trial) plans start from $7.99/month but for showtime to be included you will need the $12.99 package. If you are traveling outside the U.S. right now and can't access Paramount Plus, try NordVPN to unlock your usual service as if you were at home. Paramount Plus with Showtime has your local CBS station's live feed. Its deep library includes "Survivor" and "Big Brother" episodes, as well as originals like "1923" and "Star Trek: Strange New Worlds". The Showtime plan also comes with the network's shows, like "Billions" and "Yellowjackets" and you can catch "Couples Therapy" Season 4B on the platform! Away from home at the moment and blocked from accessing your subscription? You can still watch "Couples Therapy' season 4B thanks to the wonders of a VPN (Virtual Private Network). The software allows your devices to appear to be back in your home country regardless of where in the world you are. Ideal when you're away on vacation or on business. Our favorite is NordVPN. It's the best on the market – find out why in our NordVPN review. There's a good reason you've heard of NordVPN. We specialize in testing and reviewing VPN services and NordVPN is the one we rate best. It's outstanding at unblocking streaming services, it's fast and it has top-level security features too. With over 7,000 servers, across 110 countries, and at a great price too, it's easy to recommend. Get 70% off NordVPN with this deal Using a VPN is incredibly simple, just follow these steps. 1. Install the VPN of your choice. As we've said, NordVPN is our favorite. 2. Choose the location you wish to connect to in the VPN app. For instance, if you're in the U.K. and want to view an American service, you'd select U.S. from the list. 3. Sit back and enjoy the show. Head to Paramount Plus and stream new episodes of "Couples Therapy" season 4B online. In Canada, "Couples Therapy" season 4B premieres on Paramount Plus with SHOWTIME plan on Friday, May 23 with the first three episodes back-to-back starting at 9 p.m. ET.. Not in Canada at the moment? Signing up to NordVPN will help you access your usual streaming service when you're overseas. As with Canada, "Couples Therapy" season 4B premieres Down Under on Paramount Plus with SHOWTIME plan. Showtime content is only available on the premium subscription in Australia meaning you will have to fork out AU$13.99 a month to catch the action. Not in Australia at the moment? Use one of the best VPN services to access your usual streaming service. We recommend NordVPN thanks to its speed, reliability and trusted security features. As with everywhere else, Couples Therapy" season 4B premieres in the U.K. on Paramount Plus with SHOWTIME plan. It will also be available for FREE on BBC2 at a date TBA and BBC iPlayer. Outside the U.K.? Don't panic. We recommend using NordVPN to access your usual content. No, not as of yet. Couples Therapy Season 4B will be broadcast on Paramount Plus' Showtime Network. Dr Orna Guralnik is a clinical psychologist and psychoanalyst practicing in New York City. Dr Guralnik is on faculty at NYU PostDoctoral Institute for Psychoanalysis and at NIP (National Institute for the Psychotherapies) in NYC, where she teaches courses on the trans-generational transmission of trauma, socio-politics/ideology and psychoanalysis, and on dissociation. Currently Dr Guralnik lectures and publishes on the topics of couples treatment and culture, dissociation and depersonalization, as well as culture & psychoanalysis. The first three episodes will begin airing back-to-back at 9 p.m. ET/PT on Friday, May 23. They will then continue in pairs every Friday begining at 9 p.m.. We test and review VPN services in the context of legal recreational uses. For example: 1. Accessing a service from another country (subject to the terms and conditions of that service). 2. Protecting your online security and strengthening your online privacy when abroad. We do not support or condone the illegal or malicious use of VPN services. 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CNN
02-05-2025
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- CNN
Would you date someone with a different political POV?
Would you date someone with a different political POV? Can you separate the political context from your romantic life? CNN's Audie Cornish speaks with her show crew and with Orna Guralnik, a psychoanalyst and star of Showtime's Couples Therapy. 01:17 - Source: CNN Vertical Trending Now 9 videos Would you date someone with a different political POV? Can you separate the political context from your romantic life? CNN's Audie Cornish speaks with her show crew and with Orna Guralnik, a psychoanalyst and star of Showtime's Couples Therapy. 01:17 - Source: CNN Hundreds of dachshunds gather in Hungary in record breaking attempt In Hungary, dachshunds and their owners gathered in an attempt to break the record of biggest ever dog walk – a record previously set at 897 by the German city of Regensburg. The Hungarian Records of Association tallied the dogs as they walked through the street with their owners. 00:41 - Source: CNN 'Where's my camera?': Astronaut shares wondrous views from space NASA astronaut Don Pettit describes his love for photography and the images he took in his first press conference since returning from his fourth mission to space. 00:48 - Source: CNN Shedeur Sanders target of NFL draft prank call During the NFL draft, Shedeur Sanders, one of football's biggest draft prospects, received a call saying he was picked up by the New Orleans Saints, but the call turned out to be a prank. Sanders was later selected by the Cleveland Browns as the 144th overall pick in the fifth round. 01:15 - Source: CNN Robotics team overcomes wildfire destruction to reach world championships After the Palisades Fire destroyed their school and robotics lab, 4th and 5th graders from Marquez Charter Elementary School rebuilt their robots—and their hope—to compete on the world stage. 01:05 - Source: CNN He bought gold at Costco. He's not cashing in yet With gold prices touching record highs recently, some buyers of Costco gold bars are sharing their love of bullion on social media. But one gold bug tells us he's planning to be a lifelong investor in the precious metal. 01:58 - Source: CNN Key evidence in Karen Read trial Karen Read, who is accused of causing the death of her Boston police officer boyfriend, is being retried in Massachusetts. Read has been charged with second-degree murder, manslaughter and leaving the scene. A mistrial was declared last year after jurors said they were at an impasse. CNN's Jean Casarez breaks down key evidence. 01:33 - Source: CNN Earth week ends with a smiling face in the sky Just before sunrise on Friday, April 25, US stargazers can find a celestial "smiley face" along the eastern horizon as a waning crescent moon aligns with Venus and Saturn. 00:50 - Source: CNN Scientists discover car inside sunken WWII warship NOAA researchers discovered a 1940s Ford Super Deluxe "Woody" inside the sunken USS Yorktown, a famed WWII aircraft carrier lost during the Battle of Midway. 00:42 - Source: CNN
CNN
01-05-2025
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- CNN
Why Does Dating Feel So Hard Right Now? - The Assignment with Audie Cornish - Podcast on CNN Audio
Audie Cornish 00:00:01 Reality show romance is supposed to be my escape from the news, and yet I can't stop thinking about this one moment from the Netflix show Love is Blind, where the personal did in fact become political. The show is basically speed dating on steroids, ending with a high stakes alter I do, or this case. Love is Blind Soundbite 00:00:27 Ben, I love you so much. But I've always wanted a partner to be on the same wavelength. And so today I can't. Audie Cornish 00:00:41 So in this scene, a contestant, Sara Carton left her fiancé of 3 weeks Ben Mezzenga, at the altar because, as she put it, she just couldn't get past their political differences, which, as a crossover cultural moment, went about as well as you would expect in the political manosphere. This is conservative commentator Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk Soundbite 00:01:03 Her views very well could change if she had a man to lead her. Stay away from liberal women, got that? That should be a shirt, stay away from liberal women. Soundbite 00:01:13 I've never been more unimpressed with an individual. It's not over a difference of BLM views, it's that he refused to have one that was in lockstep with her. And that's the hallmark of that side. Audie Cornish 00:01:23 'And not wanting to deal with anyone on this or that side is very much a thing. Researchers with the dating app OkCupid wrote that political alignment isn't just a side note in dating, it's a filter. More than 1.2 million daters, for example, in the US have added the I'm pro-choice badge to their profiles on the site. In the DC area, that same bio might read, laid off by DOGE, according to the news site Axios. Or on the flip side, display a photo with the potential love match posing next to President Trump. But isn't love supposed to conquer all? Dr. Orna Guralnik 00:02:01 Look, I'm a romantic and I believe that love is the most powerful force on Earth. Love, love can do a lot. But love is not, it's not a feeling that's independent of ethics and morals. Audie Cornish 00:02:15 'Today's guest, Dr. Orna Guralnik, clinical psychologist and psychoanalyst known for her work on the docu-series Couples Therapy. We're going to talk to her about the politics of love. I'm Audie Cornish and this is The Assignment. Audie Cornish 00:02:34 'Couples therapy is a docu-series, it's not a rose dispensing pageant show or a gonzo booze-fueled matchmaking experiment. Dr. Orna Guralnik 00:02:43 What I hear from viewers is that they start off with this kind of attitude of, you know, oh, I'm going to see someone in trouble and it's going to make me feel better about myself and I'm gonna judge. Audie Cornish 00:02:57 Real couples volunteer to get weeks of free relationship therapy from psychoanalyst Orna Guralnik. In return, their experience is filmed in high, depth detail. Dr. Orna Guralnik 00:03:11 And as people get to know the participants better they gradually kind of the attitude of judgment evaporates and instead it gets replaced by a certain kind of compassion and deep empathy and Audie Cornish 00:03:27 finding a lot of commonalities. As new episodes of the show's latest season begin to drop, I wanted to talk to Guralnik because she's been out there saying political movements like Me Too and Black Lives Matter forced difficult conversations that now surface in relationships in unexpected ways. On the show, even Gen Zers and polycules and LGBTQ couples kicking traditional gender roles to the curb struggle despite being armed with therapy speak. Dr. Orna Guralnik 00:03:58 'I mean, I have to tell you that there's probably no couple, no individual patient that I know that is not really preoccupied with these questions nowadays of like a major fight, a major cultural fight now, both here in the United States, but beyond the United states between, in a way, two ethics or methods of living, right? There's like a serious cultural moment here between. Let's say a more liberal progressive ethic of becoming aware of these systemic differences, taking care of the vulnerable, considering like our government, the role of the government is to protect the most vulnerable versus this ethic of, I don't know, to be cynical, survival of the richest. Or let's, let's pull back from all of this progressive rhetoric and try to hold on to some kind of old school values that really support a very particular portion of the population, and in extreme cases, disappears the other. And this is not only happening here, it's happening in Israel-Palestine, it's happened in other places in the world, it's happen around migration. I mean, this is like a major clash. Audie Cornish 00:05:25 But how does it surface at the kitchen table? I mean, one of the things that's remarkable when you're watching a couple that is in therapy, you almost always find it is the fight about washing the dishes, the fight about walking the dog, they're always about something else. Like, yeah, how are you actually seeing it on the couch? Dr. Orna Guralnik 00:05:41 'It's, I totally see it on the couch in the sense that these are ethics that guide how people relate to each other. So if you take this like big story ethical question of is the government slash the family, the father, the caretaker, is their job to protect the vulnerable or is their job to push people to move as fast forward in the race? That will influence literally how people talk at the kitchen table. Meaning if someone is bringing vulnerability to the other, is that something to attend to with an open heart and try to see where the commonalities are, where the, where person needs support, or is that something to fight about with as much force as possible? If someone hurts you, do you listen for where that comes from, like what happened, or do you retaliate? These big cultural questions that we're negotiating among, you know, between like Dems and Republicans or between Israelis and like pro-Palestinians or... Zionists, I mean, they really translate into how do we relate one person to another? Are we going to try to understand differences and find some kind of common ground in which vulnerability is dealt with compassion? Or are we going use brute force to make the other person surrender or disappear? It really goes all the way there from the big picture to the most minute conversation. And I see it. Does that make sense to you what I'm saying? Audie Cornish 00:07:46 It does, it does, because then I start to think about how people have opted out, meaning those people who go on dating sites and are like, I don't want to date a liberal, I don't wanna date a Republican, I do not want to do this, I want to be in a relationship where the work will be X. And I've thought about it a lot, because I'm in an interracial relationship, and I can assume that when it was against the law in so many states to be such relationship. Those kinds of conversations happened in so many families where you were basically saying like, there's a moral component to the existence of this relationship or these children and what to do with those family members who do or do not embrace it. Now it feels strange to be having that kind of conversation. Dr. Orna Guralnik 00:08:36 All over again. Audie Cornish 00:08:37 Yes, but with like multiple topics like so many different things could be the moral thing That you take a stand on no matter what and I remember seeing it surface in love is blind You know like netflix reality show where you've already suspended disbelief being on the show, you know where you Couples talk without seeing each other and then all of a sudden weeks later They're supposed to say I do or not and then with some of them the thing that tripped them up was They're politics, did you believe in vaccination? It just seemed crazy to me to see it surface... Dr. Orna Guralnik 00:09:11 But it's not crazy. Audie Cornish 00:09:13 Yeah, say more. Dr. Orna Guralnik 00:09:14 It's not crazy because it does boil down to, as you're saying, very key morals and ethical values that guide how you're going to relate to another person. Audie Cornish 00:09:26 But love was supposed to conquer all Dr. Guralnik! Like, love was supposed be this thing that like...I don't know. Dr. Orna Guralnik 00:09:35 People have, look, I'm a romantic and I believe that love is the most powerful force on earth. Love can do a lot. But love is not, it's not a feeling that's independent of ethics and morals. I mean, loving has an ethical component to it. And how do you understand that ethical component? If you love someone else, does your love manifest in you doing your best to try to understand who they are. Or do you understand love as you are going to enforce your way of living on that other person supposedly to protect them, right? These are very different ideas of what love is. Audie Cornish 00:10:17 You were writing in the New York Times that you see like patterns in couples who are in conflict. And you mentioned this one concept splitting, like kind of categorizing people as good, bad. Dr. Orna Guralnik 00:10:29 Yeah, yes. Audie Cornish 00:10:30 And can you talk about how that works? Because I do think in couples in general, or throuples or whoever people partner these days, storylines can emerge as they say, and you can sometimes be the villain and you are the hero in your own story. But what makes the splitting concept different? Dr. Orna Guralnik 00:10:47 When you're in the mind's instead of splitting, you try to preserve all the good to yourself. You try to think of yourself or the person you trust as all good. And then everything that threatens that, every aspect of yourself, or of the other person that doesn't go with this pure good, is projected outward and it's all bad. So you imagine yourself in a very simplistic way. You have only like high quality behaviors. You're not greedy, you're not envious. You have no anger. You're just like a good person. And the person outside of you is the one that has all those like negative qualities and they're all bad. It's a very simple way of cutting the world, cutting yourself and cutting the word. And when you're in that state of mind where you split a lot, the world can become very dangerous to you. Because if all the bad is outside and it's not like a nuanced, both good and bad, when you imagine people are bad, they're really bad. You don't remember that they're also the same person that yesterday helped you cross the road. It's a very all good, all scary world that you live in, in the mindset of splitting. On the other hand, if you're not in that mindset, if you were in a more integrated mindset, then you can see nuances, then you can see that, oh, that qualities that I dislike in the other person, well, I recognize them in myself sometimes, too. And I can understand the humanity of both of us. Audie Cornish 00:12:25 I remember watching one of the seasons of the show where there was a couple where one was a Palestinian background. And that came up as a topic. Couples Therapy Soundbite 00:12:32 I mean, to address the elephant in the room, our dynamic as an Israeli Jew with a Palestinian in the midst of the political made me a little bit anxious, but I feel love in this space. I feel like there's a real shared experience here that is happening. Yeah, a communion. Do you want to say more though about that elephant, like in terms of your concerns? I'm scared that... Other Palestinians might criticize me for placing myself in this position. Yeah, for agreeing to this. However, sometimes I think when we look at things from the collective level, things that we do to bar people from seeing each other like a literal separation wall further perpetuates the conflict because I have no opportunity to even see that my enemies are just... Not your enemies. Yeah, they're just people. And we're also trying to live who come from so much trauma as well. One way to think about it is that we are relating under the radar of how we're supposed to relate, which is as enemies. Audie Cornish 00:13:39 'And I remember thinking, oh, that's really interesting that, like, Dr. Guralnik had to say, like well, wait a second, how is my presence affecting you? How are you thinking about it? And just for people's understanding of your background, as far as I understand, you spent some time both in Georgia and then as a child moved to Israel for several years, which I think was at age seven, which now that I have a seven-year-old. It's a very influential moment that time. Dr. Orna Guralnik 00:14:09 Yes. Audie Cornish 00:14:10 Can you talk about some of the formative experiences? Dr. Orna Guralnik 00:14:14 Yeah, when I moved to Israel, I mean, it was a long time ago, it was in the 70s. First of all, I moved and very soon after we moved, the Yom Kippur war broke out. You know, my dad was called into the war, he disappeared for months, I was like in bunkers. It was like a crazy time, like a very intense way to be introduced to the state of Israel. And then growing up, It was during a time where Israel went through a few different ideological political changes. When I moved to Israel, it was a pretty socialist country. And as I was growing up, it kind of went through transformation into a much more kind of very similar to the United States, a much capitalist kind of society that was also deeply going through many complicated phases of the conflict with the Arab world. And late in the 70s, there was already like the we moved from like speaking of splitting, never believing that the war would ever end to suddenly like a peace accord with Egypt. I mean, I witnessed growing up like many intense socio and political transformations in this country. Audie Cornish 00:15:31 And specific milestones for Israel itself, and inflection points. And I didn't realize this, but like later on, you ended up keeping in touch with this particular, I guess, the patient, the right word. Dr. Orna Guralnik 00:15:47 She's a participant. Audie Cornish 00:15:48 Participant in the show. And I read this conversation, it was in The Guardian, and I watched you in real time deal with the conflicts you're describing. Someone looking at your fundamental identity and saying, you and the people around you, your collective, your system, fundamental damage to me and my system. Dr. Orna Guralnik 00:16:09 Absolutely. Audie Cornish 00:16:10 What was that like? Dr. Orna Guralnik 00:16:14 What was that like? I mean, the relationship with her is one of the most important relationships of my contemporary life right now, but it really, it's not just Christine. It's about the basic question, you know, I'm a couples therapist, I'm citizen, I am a mother. I mean these are basic questions about what do I believe ethical relationships between human beings should be. Do I believe in overpowering another person? Do I belief in over powering another people? Do I believed in occupation? Or do I believe in the ability to find some kind of mutual dignity, humanity, and resolving these kind of domination relationships? And you can imagine that I believe in the latter, but it's challenged. It's challenged when Sometimes it gets to the point where you're like, wait a minute. Is it me or you, or is there a way for both of us to exist? You know, river to sea, is it just the Palestinians? Is it just Jews or is there a way to coexist. Audie Cornish 00:17:24 There were moments in the conversation where you actually had to say, can you make room for this? Or I have to swallow the frog, which I hadn't heard in a while. Or you would what I'm feeling is anger or I am I feel rage that you can't like you had to do the things that I often see you asking the couples to do. Yes. And I think we think that, oh, if you're a therapist, this is going to be easy, or like, I don't know, that somehow you have the tools, and so it's an easier way. But it's still, I could feel you working. It was work to get to a place where you could sit across from someone who, you know, you just had such fundamental differences. And looking at this conflict and you are allowing yourselves to be proxies for both communities, which is even scarier in this environment. Dr. Orna Guralnik 00:18:17 Yes, very scary. Scary in this environment. Yes, agree. Yeah, this environment is not conducive to that. Which is a big problem. Audie Cornish 00:18:26 What did you learn from going through that experience and still going through experience? And I mean that in a very literal way. What did learn about trying to suppress those or trying to hold that bay, those feelings that can overtake a conversation? What did your learn about even the idea of changing a mind, you know? I pretty much, it's cable news. I feel like I sit through discussions all day where people claim in a way they're. Trying to change each other's minds, but they clearly conduct the conversation in a way where you never would if you were actually trying to do that. I know. So for you, like you must have had an internal moment of like, maybe I'm not so good at this, or actually this is harder than I thought, even for my patients, like what kind of, yeah. Dr. Orna Guralnik 00:19:12 Yeah, many moments like that. There's one thing which is that I learned at various points in the conversation where I'm getting stuck, where, for example, Christine is saying something that I suddenly feel like I can't work with because I'm coming up against a certain kind of limit in myself. At least for me, the commitment is when I'm meeting those kind of hard moments where you can't dislodge something. I do have a certain kind of commitment in myself to spend some time there and see what I can do, what I can with myself. You're talking about the feeling. It's not just a feeling, it's a thought too. It's a though of like, oh no, that cannot be true or that's too much or you've gone too far or this is too offensive. It's a feeling, but it's also a thought. There's a whole kind of complex that goes along there that means like no more, we can't talk anymore. This is where we reach the limit of our understanding. This is exactly where you need to sit and breathe and both listen to yourself with compassion, but also know that you're getting stuck and also ask the other person to talk to you again. So I would ask Christine, can you say what you're saying in a different way that doesn't make me feel so attacked or doesn't... Audie Cornish 00:20:31 Right. Dr. Orna Guralnik 00:20:32 Like help me go through this process of hardening, so that I can understand better, and maybe you will understand better. I mean, with Christine and I, I mean she's a very special person, despite the fact that she's fiercely political and fiercely protective of her people, she's also a deeply empathic, respectful person. So we could offer that to each other, even in... Audie Cornish 00:20:53 Yeah, you guys really were the best case scenario of two people trying to have this discussion, which was very hard. But I think it just struck me that like, yeah, all of a sudden you're you're on the couch. Dr. Orna Guralnik 00:21:09 Yes. and I'm often on the couch. I mean, when I work with patients, I may not talk about it, but I'm often on the couch with my patients, meaning I meet certain moments in myself in which I have a hard time empathizing or hard time understanding or I don't agree with something and I have to walk myself through a process. Audie Cornish 00:21:29 More of my conversation with couples therapist Orna Guralnik, stay with us. Audie Cornish 00:21:38 'You will have what people are describing as a kind of romance recession. You have a generation of people who are less likely to be in a long-term relationship, less likely to seek one. And then if I think about their slang, my favorite is catching feelings,. Dr. Orna Guralnik 00:21:57 Right. Audie Cornish 00:21:57 Which is to move from your beneficial sexual arrangement in the threat of you having emotions during that. It always drives me crazy because catching sounds like you caught a disease. Like you catch an STI, you don't catch feelings. But I think it says something about this generation and where they are. Do you think we're in a romance recession? Or what are the ways you might see what this generation is going through that feels different? Dr. Orna Guralnik 00:22:26 Oh yeah, there's definitely a big seismic change in the younger generation. It's not just a romance recession. They're also having less sex. They are less rushing to get involved with each other. They're more kind of wary. But I think there's a real thing going on and I think it has to do with a bunch of things. Both, you know, people's lives are, this is true for us too, but it's true for younger people their profoundly mediated by technology nowadays, right? Like they have much less direct access to each other and they're much more living through social media, YouTube, there's a way in which experience is less immediate, it's more mediated and more insular in that way. So that's one factor. Also the fact that Um, people are living in very different realities because of technology. I mean, it's the last decade has been so fragmented in terms of society and like, what can you trust? Like whether you can trust the reality, we're not sharing the same reality, whether you could trust the government that it's going to protect you. Whether there there's a way in which people have become a lot more fearful and suspicious. And that, of course, affects their willingness to love and their willingness to be vulnerable and open themselves up to each other. So all of this creates a very different environment, let's say, than the environment I grew up in when I was younger and starting to get involved in romance. It's a complicated time for people. And I think people are wary. Audie Cornish 00:24:14 Are they right to be? Dr. Orna Guralnik 00:24:15 'This is going back to the beginning of our conversation. How can you separate your romantic relationships from the political context you're living in? If you're in a political context in which you can't trust that your government is there to protect you, it's like living in a family in which the parents are not worrying about the wellbeing of their kids. You grow to be paranoid and self-protective. It's harder to extend vulnerability and care and love to each other. So are they right to be? Yes, it's tricky out there. Audie Cornish 00:24:54 I have to admit, this is the part of the interview where I'm supposed to be like, so what should we do now to change and improve this situation? But really I feel like I need to write a letter to all those like feminist websites that were like, you were right. The hetero ladies are upset for a reason. Dr. Orna Guralnik 00:25:09 Agree. Audie Cornish 00:25:09 I don't want to do that. I don't want to do that, but I want to, what I do want to figure out is you've learned a lot in the last couple of years. I've learned a lot doing this job. I don't know how to talk to people who come up to me and say, how can we be talking to each other differently? They ask me in a political context, but there are people who ask you that in a relational, in a romantic context, now that our worlds have collided. Dr. Orna Guralnik 00:25:33 'I think it has to do with kind of a two-part thing. Like, one, don't be so certain about your reality. Your reality is created by, or mediated by, a very particular kind of environment that we're living in, technologically, news-wise. We're all really in the grip of very manipulative systems that are making us see only a slice of the world, all of us. Be a little bit less convinced of your reality. Step one, like hold your reality lightly and open yourself up to listen with a lot of care and empathy to the person that you're disagreeing with. You're having a hard time understanding someone else. Try to ask them, what matters to you? What in this matters to? What are you afraid of? What do you care about? I mean, I have really, quite profound conversations with people that I fiercely disagree with, sometimes people who really threaten my existence. And I find those conversations the most meaningful, right? If I can get them to talk to me about what matters to them, right, if we're not trying to convince each other or not trying to impose my reality, but we're trying to actually understand each other. Audie Cornish 00:27:04 'That was Orna Guralnik, a clinical psychologist and psychoanalyst known for her work on the docu-series Couples Therapy. New episodes of the show drop on Showtime on May 23rd. This episode of The Assignment, a production of CNN Audio, was produced by Grace Walker and Kyra Dahring. Our senior producer is Matt Martinez, our technical director is Dan Dzula, and the executive producer of CNN Audio is Steve Lickteig. We also had support from Dan Bloom, Madeleine Thompson, Haley Thomas, Alex Manassari, Robert Mathers, Jon Dianora, Leni Steinhardt, Jamus Andrest, Nicole Pesaru, and Lisa Namerow. I'm Audie Cornish and if you enjoyed this show, please go ahead, hit the follow button, definitely share. We love getting new listeners and I want to thank you for being with us this week.
Associated Press
26-02-2025
- Entertainment
- Associated Press
Allbirds and Stanley Tucci Collaborate on New Four-Part Content Series, Airing on Rolling Stone
SAN FRANCISCO, Feb. 26, 2025 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Today, Allbirds unveiled Cards On The Table, a content series created in collaboration with Academy Award nominated actor Stanley Tucci. The four-part series brings to life the 'Allbirds by Nature' platform by gathering unexpected guests for a 'dream dinner party,' where those who are curious by nature forge new connections. The series aims to explore what connects us as humans, uncovering surprising commonalities through personal and unscripted stories. Viewers are offered a rare glimpse into the lives of a diverse lineup of guests, including actor Sophie Turner, Formula 1 driver Carlos Sainz Jr. and television host Tan France. Hosted by Stanley Tucci, the 12 guests hail from unique backgrounds across a variety of industries–from a Spice Girl and a Green Michelin Star chef, to a world-renowned physicist and an Emmy-winning comedian. The brand enlisted expert help to cook up great conversation, with assistance from Dr. Orna Guralnik, clinical psychologist and psychoanalyst widely known for her role in Showtime's 'Couple's Therapy.' Guralnik curated decks of discussion cards that are tailored to each episode's guests, designed to dig deeper into their unique nature. Allbirds developed the content alongside OBB Pictures and Salt Productions. The series will air weekly throughout March on Rolling Stone's YouTube channel . Content from the 20-minute episodes will also run across Allbirds' site and social channels. 'I've been a fan of Allbirds for years, and felt immediately attracted to their idea of gathering an unlikely group for a sort of dream dinner party. The pitch from Allbirds was clear: this isn't an ad, this is an experience curated by Allbirds to celebrate the power of curiosity and human connection,' said Stanley Tucci, executive producer of the project. 'Audiences are going to get a real, compelling glimpse into our guests, and will get to know them in a way they couldn't otherwise.' 'One of our core brand values is to Live Curiously, and we're deeply inspired by people who embody that ethos–either with an inquisitive spirit, unconventional approaches to their work, or unique stories of success. We believe that curiosity is fundamental not just to forge new and better paths, but to forge authentic connection, and this content was created to encourage exactly that,' said Kelly Olmstead, Chief Marketing Officer, Allbirds. 'We've gathered people who we feel best embody our values, in different but equally powerful ways–and the conversations that unfold reveal not only new sides of our guests, but of our brand.' 'The thing that I love most about my job is the same thing that attracted me to this project: the opportunity to support people's ongoing search for truth and transcendence,' said Orna Guralnik. 'Every question is crafted to unearth something unexpected about those around the table, and the result is a conversation capable of really moving the needle.' The first episode features television host and designer Tan France, Formula 1 driver Carlos Sainz, and pop icon Mel C. Future episodes deliver a unique lineup that includes: Actor Henry Golding, actor and writer Molly Ringwald and Green Michelin Star chef Chantelle Nicholson. Actor Sophie Turner, poet and playwright Inua Ellams and physicist and professor Brian Cox. Comedian and actor Hasan Minhaj, musical artist Laufey and technologist and social entrepreneur Dr. Anne-Marie Imafidon. To view the official trailer and learn more about the series, visit Cards On The Table is executive produced by Allbirds; Michael D. Ratner, Scott Ratner, Elias Tanner, Lana Womack, and Leonor Castro of OBB Media; alongside Stanley Tucci and Lottie Birmingham of SALT Productions. The series is showrun and executive produced by Kristen Wong, and directed by Bugsy Steel. About Allbirds, Inc. Allbirds is a global modern lifestyle footwear brand, founded in 2015 with a commitment to make better things in a better way. That commitment inspired the company's first product, the now iconic Wool Runner; and today, inspires a growing assortment of products known for superior comfort. Allbirds designs its products to be materially different by turning away from convention toward nature's inspiration with materials like Merino wool, tree fiber and sugarcane. For more information, please visit About OBB Media OBB Media is an award-winning multidisciplinary production company and vertically integrated content studio founded by entrepreneur and filmmaker Michael D. Ratner. The team of storytellers operates across six verticals including Pictures, Studios, Sound, Ventures, Cares, and Bolded, connecting talent and audiences through long and short-form film, TV, social and live experiences. OBB's first in-class physical production capabilities and state-of-the-art content studio in Hollywood, OBB Studios, create unmatched opportunities for creativity. OBB Media is forging unique partnerships that transform how talent can use their content to build businesses and tell untold stories that engage the next generation of viewers. For more information, visit the company website at About Salt Productions SALT Productions was established in 2023 by Stanley Tucci and Lottie Birmingham. With a decade of close collaboration under their belts, the two launched Salt Productions as a means to combine their shared aesthetic and work ethos in order to create and produce a wide array of projects, spanning non-fiction, commercial, and fictional genres for both film and television. The company prides itself on delivering compelling, high-quality content that resonates with diverse audiences, while maintaining a keen focus on storytelling and originality. Their highly anticipated debut production, Tucci In Italy, is set to premiere in May of this year. For more information, visit
