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Wales Online
19 hours ago
- Politics
- Wales Online
Welsh council's 20mph speed limit decision gets 'revert back' verdict
Our community members are treated to special offers, promotions and adverts from us and our partners. You can check out at any time. More info North Wales Live readers have been debating Ceredigion County Council's decision to uphold the 20mph speed limit on county roads. Following a thorough review, the council chose to maintain the speed limits implemented in 2023, a move that has divided public opinion. This comes after the Welsh Government altered its guidance on where exception roads - those permitted to retain a 30mph limit - can be located. It is anticipated that there will be a significant increase in exception roads, which is hoped to alleviate some of the opposition to the default limit introduced in September 2023. Ceredigion County Council stated it had carried out an extensive review of the 20mph speed limits across the county, during which they received 62 individual comments. The council reported that of these, 23 were in favour of the new 20mph limits, 20 called for changes to the national policy, 16 objected to the existing 20mph limits on county roads, and eight referred specifically to Welsh Government-managed Trunk Road locations, over which the Council has no control. One reader, Cooperman1927, comments: "When will people realise we have just been hoodwinked into thinking changes will be made. Use your vote at the next election and make your voice heard." Toxteth O'Grady adds: "Absolutely disastrous net zero policy disguised as a life saving law. Vote Labour out." Outofhere believes: "These councils are a law unto themselves. They serve no one except themselves." Pay1233 says: "We are blessed, in some areas of Birmingham, it's 15mph." Simondc feels: "So as it appears you fully support this bad law, let us see how many of these councillors survive next year's vote? I beg people for once in your lives vote, but vote after reading what each candidate offers. Please don't vote historically but vote for the candidate that aligns with your views, not anyone else. If you don't vote then you cannot argue that the wrong candidate was elected as every vote counts?" Indigodebz believes: "If it was just about saving lives there would be repeater/reminder signs in the 20mph zones like in England. There would be much greater compliance if 20mph was attributed to just residential areas, schools and the like." Steamnut writes: "They say they took the views of the 63 respondents into account. They didn't listen to thousands of views before it was implemented did they? In truth, doing nothing saves the council money. Roll on the elections next year." Sobchak believes: "Okay, let me put it another way. If you've got time to worry about something as petty as this then you must have an empty life." Jet11 says: "Main roads are for driving on not playing on, 20mph past schools is fine, but most roads that were 30 mph should revert back, the way the Nimbys are going they will have everybody back on pony and traps. Then they will complain about the horse mess left behind." Joebloggs999 adds: "Pedestrians need to concentrate when crossing roads, not play on their phones and assume it's always somebody else's fault, another import from America, we are now a suing state!" Ian Papworth thinks: "This is good news. 20 mph will not affect tourism and will increase road safety. 20 mph is being adopted across many tourist destinations across Britain and Europe (some are even Tory!). If you can't drive at a consistent 20 then you need to take test again. This speed limit applies to less than 35 percent of Welsh roads." Do you agree with the council on the 20mph speed limit? Comment below or HERE to join in the conversation.
North Wales Live
19 hours ago
- Politics
- North Wales Live
Welsh council's 20mph speed limit decision gets 'revert back' verdict
North Wales Live readers have been debating Ceredigion County Council's decision to uphold the 20mph speed limit on county roads. Following a thorough review, the council chose to maintain the speed limits implemented in 2023, a move that has divided public opinion. This comes after the Welsh Government altered its guidance on where exception roads - those permitted to retain a 30mph limit - can be located. It is anticipated that there will be a significant increase in exception roads, which is hoped to alleviate some of the opposition to the default limit introduced in September 2023. Ceredigion County Council stated it had carried out an extensive review of the 20mph speed limits across the county, during which they received 62 individual comments. The council reported that of these, 23 were in favour of the new 20mph limits, 20 called for changes to the national policy, 16 objected to the existing 20mph limits on county roads, and eight referred specifically to Welsh Government-managed Trunk Road locations, over which the Council has no control. One reader, Cooperman1927, comments: "When will people realise we have just been hoodwinked into thinking changes will be made. Use your vote at the next election and make your voice heard." Toxteth O'Grady adds: "Absolutely disastrous net zero policy disguised as a life saving law. Vote Labour out." Outofhere believes: "These councils are a law unto themselves. They serve no one except themselves." Pay1233 says: "We are blessed, in some areas of Birmingham, it's 15mph." Simondc feels: "So as it appears you fully support this bad law, let us see how many of these councillors survive next year's vote? I beg people for once in your lives vote, but vote after reading what each candidate offers. Please don't vote historically but vote for the candidate that aligns with your views, not anyone else. If you don't vote then you cannot argue that the wrong candidate was elected as every vote counts?" Indigodebz believes: "If it was just about saving lives there would be repeater/reminder signs in the 20mph zones like in England. There would be much greater compliance if 20mph was attributed to just residential areas, schools and the like." Steamnut writes: "They say they took the views of the 63 respondents into account. They didn't listen to thousands of views before it was implemented did they? In truth, doing nothing saves the council money. Roll on the elections next year." Sobchak believes: "Okay, let me put it another way. If you've got time to worry about something as petty as this then you must have an empty life." Jet11 says: "Main roads are for driving on not playing on, 20mph past schools is fine, but most roads that were 30 mph should revert back, the way the Nimbys are going they will have everybody back on pony and traps. Then they will complain about the horse mess left behind." Joebloggs999 adds: "Pedestrians need to concentrate when crossing roads, not play on their phones and assume it's always somebody else's fault, another import from America, we are now a suing state!" Ian Papworth thinks: "This is good news. 20 mph will not affect tourism and will increase road safety. 20 mph is being adopted across many tourist destinations across Britain and Europe (some are even Tory!). If you can't drive at a consistent 20 then you need to take test again. This speed limit applies to less than 35 percent of Welsh roads."
North Wales Live
3 days ago
- Automotive
- North Wales Live
Welsh council reviews all its 20mph roads and makes surprising decision
A Welsh council has reviewed its 20mph roads and made a decision that has divided opinion. Local authorities across the country are currently reviewing 20mph routes. This follows a change in guidance from Welsh Government on where exception roads - which can stay at 30mph - can be placed. It is expected to see a major increase in exception roads with the hope this will quell some of the dissent against the default limit that was introduced in September 2023. Ceredigion County Council said it has conducted a comprehensive review of the 20mph speed limits across the county. This saw them receive 62 individual comments. Join the North Wales Live WhatsApp community group where you can get the latest stories delivered straight to your phone They said of these 23 expressed support for the new 20mph limits, 20 expressed desires for a change to the national policy, 16 objected to existing 20mph limits on county roads, while eight referred directly to Welsh Government-managed Trunk Road locations, over which the Council has no jurisdiction. Ceredigion County Council reviewed 34 sections of road. All of the locations included in the review have been reassessed against the Welsh Government's 30mph exceptions guidance. The outcome of the review is that no further changes were identified, and the 20mph limits introduced on County Roads within Ceredigion in 2023 should remain. That decision has divided opinion on social media. One person unhappy at the decision wrote: "Are they trying to end the tourist trade around here? Who's going to choose Ceredigion as a holiday destination when there's a way above average chance of going home with 3 points on your licence? Or attending a 'speed awareness course' that you have to declare on your insurance renewal and your premium skyrockets just the same as if you had the 3 points." Another added: "Why should we be surprised that this self centred council have again done nothing for the people who live here. Doing nothing equates to 'can't be bothered'. They would rather spend money driving away tourism by building cycle paths on sea front parking!" But there was also support for the council's stance. One respondent said: "After many close calls (including kids waiting for a bus), and a death in our village I'm very pleased. People might not do exactly 20, but at least the majority aren't doing the 40-45 that used to be the case." Another said: "I think the 20mph is giving the villages back to pedestrians and children, people are safer walking around. Why should motorists feel as though they have the priority? Let the kids play out." Councillor Shelley Childs, Ceredigion's Cabinet Member responsible for Highways and Environmental, said: "The review was an opportunity to assess how closely the guidance from the Welsh Government was applied on county roads in Ceredigion. "Collision data recently released by the police and the Welsh Government suggests that the national change to the speed limit does seem to be reducing casualties on roads across Wales, and correspondence received during the review process suggests that the new 20mph limits are welcomed by many in the county. Although, the Council's review did not include any speed limit arrangements on the A487 and A44 Trunk Roads in Ceredigion since those are the direct responsibility of the Welsh Government."
