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‘The Pitt' Star Supriya Ganesh on Wanting to See More of Samira's Personal Life in Season 2 and Using She/They Pronouns: ‘Hey, I'm Queer. See Me'
'The Pitt' star Supriya Ganesh was close to quitting acting before she booked the role of Dr. Samira Mohan on the hit Max medical drama. She was seriously considering going to medical school. Yes, before playing a doctor on 'The Pitt,' Ganesh almost became one in real life. More from Variety TV Bosses Behind 'The Pitt,' 'Doc' and More Examine the Rise of the Medical Drama: 'The Stakes Are Clear' 'The Pitt' Will Make Its Linear Premiere on TNT This Fall 'The Pitt' Star Shawn Hatosy Dissects Powerful Rooftop Moment, Reveals the Cut Scene That Confirmed Dr. Abbot's Feelings for Mohan 'I always wanted to be an actor. That was something that I really wanted to do,' she tells me during a Zoom from San Diego, where she's starring in the world premiere of the comedy play 'House of India' at the Old Globe Theatre. 'But my parents, and bless them, I think I really understand this now, they were just like, 'We support you, but we want you to have a good backup plan.' So I got into college pre-med, majored in neuroscience. While I was in college, I started auditioning, and things started working out a lot faster than I had heard they would. So I took a step back from the medicine and decided to act a little bit.' But then everything came to a standstill due to the writers and actors strikes followed by some auditions for too many lousy projects. 'I just thought, 'Is this the best use of my talent?' Ganesh recalls. 'You get a lot of stuff when you're auditioning, where you're just like, 'Come on. I'm not a writer, but I think I could write something better than that.'' Before landing 'The Pitt,' which takes place over a 15-hour shift at a Pittsburgh emergency room lead by Dr, Michael 'Robby' Robinavitch (Noah Wylie), Ganesh appeared on 'Blue Bloods,' 'New Amsterdam,' 'Chicago Med,' 'Billions' and 'Grown-ish.' 'I never thought I would get my break in something that would be so artistically and creatively fulfilling as 'The Pitt,'' says Ganesh. 'When it worked out, it felt like everything in my life had led up to that moment, honestly. Even the week that I was auditioning and getting called back, it felt like something was watching over me or. A bird pooped on me, which if you ask any Indian, is good luck.' Oh my gosh. I'm glad you're doing OK. I'm not surprised at all. I had the exact same thought when I got the script when I was auditioning for it. I have some background in medicine. Nothing compared to the doctors on set. But when I got it, I remember thinking, 'Oh my gosh, I can suspend my disbelief for this because there's actually a logical flow to this intubation. Someone with a medical degree was involved.' I think this maybe sounds conceited to say, but I'm not surprised at how well it's doing either because I knew in that moment that there was nothing like this on TV before. What's so funny is that before 'The Pitt,' whenever I auditioned for doctors, I would do a big song and dance. Sometimes I would add a clip where I was explaining something really medical, or I would solve the medical mystery that was in the script and be like, 'This is what makes the most sense.' But no one really cared. So by the time I got to 'The Pitt,' I was just like, 'All right, I'm just going to say I got a really great score on the MCAT. I'll just tail that to the end of my slate, and if they notice, they notice.' I love that she's such a great patient advocate. I feel like she was written in response to a lot of trouble that's brewing in the medical system these days, and I think she's really trying to push against it in her own individual way. It is an act of optimism to go, 'I know the system's not going to change, but I am still going to give this person my 100%, and I might get shit for it, but that's fine. I'm still going to give this person as much as I possibly can.' I think that's just so beautiful about her. I have not seen anything. I'm learning about everything the same way that you are, which is through the grapevine. The only thing I know, same as you, is that it's set on a July 4th weekend and it's Langdon's [Patrick Ball] first day back. That's the only thing I really know. I mean, obviously, I have hopes and desires and dreams of where things go Maybe something a little bit more into Samira's personal life. I think they explored how lonely she was in Season 1. Does she socialize a little bit more? Is there something going on with her mom? Does she reach back out to her after this, or does she not? I think looking a little bit more into what her life outside the hospital looks like to the extent that they can, I think, would be so wonderful. It is absolutely a relationship with my own queerness as well as race. Coming to America [Ganesh was born in the U.S., but was three years old when her parents moved the family back to India], I was very shocked by how restrictive the gender roles are, because in India you have the existence of a third gender. There is a little more fluidity in how men present themselves, women present themselves. So I think coming here, I felt this instinctive need to want to react against it, which I think is interesting because I feel like a lot of the times I do present as pretty femme. But there are a couple of times where I'm existing outside of that, and I don't always totally feel like I'm fitting into what I think is a very white-conceived perception of femininity. So that was a decision I think I made about a year and a half ago, actually influenced by Lily Gladstone in her decision to adopt she/they pronouns in acknowledgement of third-spirit people and some two-spirit people, I think that was a moment where I felt really seen, where I was like, 'Oh, yeah, I don't need to fit into this.' Even though I feel like I identify a lot more with femininity, that doesn't mean I always fit into what is a very Western idea of it. So I think that was why I made that decision. It also feels like a little bit of a shout-out, being like, 'Hey, I'm queer. See me.' I feel like sometimes I pass really well. I also want queer brown women to look at me and know that that's someone they can turn to and relate to. I think I made the decision before I started this career in earnestness to be as authentic as I possibly could. I mean, it's that same idea of picking someone to write to and writing to them. I feel like I want to make art and exist in art for other South Asian people. And if I'm not being as authentic and true to myself as I possibly can be, then what am I doing? And I just think especially in this generation of Gen Z, which I'm so happy to be a part of, I think that we see so much more queerness and fluidity even with all the restrictions that are happening — and there are so many that I am so frustrated by and angry about — I think people are able to express themselves a little bit more because at least there is this social acceptance, if not a legal acceptance. At least, it's getting pushed a little bit more. And I just think that's really beautiful, and I hope more people feel freer to accept themselves wherever on the spectrum that they may lie. I still can't believe I got so lucky to do this play and originate the part. I actually got really emotional last night thinking about the fact that this play is going to get printed, and my name's going to be there. The cast is all AAPI people. We have three South Asian people, one Thai person. And it's so gorgeous to be able to debate things about South Asian culture and South Indian culture, even more specifically, within that sort of safe space. And I'm Tamilian, and so when I read this play and there was Tamil in it, I was like, 'Oh my God, I have to be a part of it.' The play is centered around a restaurant. The foods that they mention are so specific. My mother would cook these things for me. It had such a hold on me from the beginning. This conversation was edited for length and clarity. Best of Variety 'Harry Potter' TV Show Cast Guide: Who's Who in Hogwarts? Emmy Predictions: Apple, Netflix Lead the Pack as FYC Events Roll On Including 2,100+ Waiting List for HBO Max's Hit Series 'The Pitt' New Movies Out Now in Theaters: What to See This Week
Yahoo
25-05-2025
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'The Pitt''s Tracy Ifeachor Reveals 'There Was More' Between Dr. Collins and Dr. Robby's Relationship That Didn't Air (Exclusive)
Tracy Ifeachor, who plays Dr. Heather Collins on The Pitt, opens up exclusively to PEOPLE about her character's "will-they-won't-they" relationship with Noah Wyle's Dr. Michael "Robby" Robinavitch Ifeachor also shares there was more in the script about Dr. Collins and Dr. Robby's relationship that didn't make the air "I think [the show creators] didn't want to make it soapy or something," she saysThe Pitt's Tracy Ifeachor knows what she wants to see happen in season 2. The actress, 50, plays Dr. Heather Collins in the HBO Max medical drama which follows a group of healthcare workers in a Pittsburgh emergency room during a 15-hour shift. Throughout the first season, viewers get a front-row seat to Dr. Collins enticing "will-they-won't-they" relationship with Noah Wyle's Dr. Michael "Robby" Robinavitch. While there is still much to be revealed about the history between the senior resident and the troubled senior attending physician, it is confirmed that the two dated in the past and may still harbor feelings for one another. Ifeachor, like many fans, wants to see the pair get together. "I am a hopeful, romantic," she tells PEOPLE with a laugh. "I've always been a hopeful romantic. I'm the person who's always matching up all my friends... Me, Tracy, would always say 'yes' to every romantic situation anywhere." Despite the complex relationship between Dr. Collins and Dr. Robby, the British actress maintains a positive outlook on their future. "I don't believe anything is ever wasted. It's only wasted if you don't learn anything," she says. "It would be lovely to see [Dr. Collins and Dr. Robby] come to some kind of resolution. I think they finally do in the ambulance scene because they end up having an actual conversation." The ambulance scene occurs in the 11th episode of the season, Ifeachor's final appearance, and sees Dr. Collins telling Dr. Robby that she experienced a miscarriage during the work day. When the senior resident says that she does not think she can go through the IVF experience again, Dr. Robby tells her, "I've never known you give up on anything, except maybe me." Dr. Collins then reveals that she was pregnant a few years ago but "wasn't sure about the relationship," leaving fans to speculate over whether she was referring to her past romance with Robby. "I never told him," she says to attending physician. "I was afraid of all of it... But mostly, I was afraid he'd hate me for being selfish." Never miss a story — sign up for to stay up-to-date on the best of what PEOPLE has to offer, from celebrity news to compelling human-interest stories. "You're not selfish, Heather. You're not selfish," Dr. Robby reassures her. "Do you think he'd forgive me if he knew?" she tells Dr. Robby, who replies, "Yes, and more importantly, I know he'd want you to forgive yourself." According to Ifeachor, the heartfelt scene says a lot about two characters and the feelings they harbor for one another. "[Dr. Collins and Dr. Robby] get each other," she explains. "They really understand each other and work well together. They just have very different ways of seeing things and doing things, and I love that." The actress adds that her character "is the only one who can really tell [Dr. Robby] about himself." When asked about what makes the characters' relationship special, the actress says, "I think it's the missing of each other. It's like when two people should just be able to get it together and be together, but for some reason they just keep missing each other. The ambulance scene is probably the first time they've had a really honest conversation with each other about everything in the past." Ifeachor details how trauma has played a role in the characters' divide. "When someone has trauma, and they both have their own version of trauma, you can only share as much as you allow. Whether that's Dr. Robby not coping with certain things or Dr. Collins not wanting to share certain things because there's shame there. So, they end up missing each other. But they have a connection that I'm really happy to see made it onto the screen." is now available in the Apple App Store! Download it now for the most binge-worthy celeb content, exclusive video clips, astrology updates and more! Ifeachor also lets it slip that "there was more" between Dr. Collins and Dr. Robby that did not make the final cut. "I think [the show creators] didn't want to make it soapy or something," she explains. "But I thought some of the things that were in the script were so, so wonderful, and I would have loved to have seen more of them together." Building chemistry with Wyle came naturally, the actress says of the ER alum, who also executive produces and writes for The Pitt. "We have very different processes," she explains. "Noah's wearing a lot of hats in the production. He's the executive producer. He's looking at the shots. He's looking at the camera angles. He's looking at all these different things. He's also written one of the episodes. He's juggling all these plates." But when it came to tackling their characters' relationship, the two actors didn't talk about it at all. "We ended up deciding to be really present with one another in the scenes and trust that we both really love what we do, and we are going to honor this piece together," she says. "It wasn't overthought or anything… We both were present and just let the scenes play out, and we were really open to whatever comes in the moment." The Pitt is currently streaming on HBO Max. Read the original article on People
Forbes
21-05-2025
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- Forbes
Featuring A Unique Hybrid Narrative, ‘Transplant' Tells An Immigrant Story Via Hospital Drama
Pictured: Hamza Haq as Dr. Bashir Hamed. 'In the TV business, they always say that people like stories about people on the worst day of their lives,' says Joseph Kay Given the popularity of procedural series, especially medical dramas, this seems to be true. And, it explains the success of one of those medical dramas, Transplant, which tells the story of Dr. Bashir Hamed, a charismatic Syrian doctor with battle-tested skills in emergency medicine, who flees his war-torn homeland with his younger sister to forge a new life in Canada. But, Bash's road is a tough one, requiring him to prove his skills as a doctor, by completing a second residency at a prestigious hospital, all while dealing with painful memories. The series stars Hamza Haq, Laurence Leboeuf, Ayisha Issa, Jim Watson, Rekha Sharma, Sirena Gulamgaus, Torri Higginson, Kenny Wong. Kay, who made the statement about television viewers thriving on characters' misfortune, is the creator, showrunner and executive producer of Transplant. Hamza Haq as Dr. Bashir Hamed. Now entering its 4th and final season, the series finds Bash on the precipice of finally completing his residency and officially requalifying to be a doctor. However, his future is uncertain once again as Bash and his sister, Amira, who are now Canadian citizens, find that they're still trying, with everything they have, to build a new life in their adopted country. 'We see the show as a hybrid,' explains Kay. 'It's an immigrant story married with a medical drama.' He says that in light of this, 'We really work to balance the narrative using a loose rule of thumb, which is that half of every episode is in some way about Bash and his emotional story, whether that's tied to something that happened to him in the past or tied to the way he's processing it in the present. Everything else that happens is a rumination on that.' Describing the evolution of Transplant, Kay takes a breath and then describes the process, saying, 'I was looking for a way into a medical drama and I'd been spending a lot of time on Reddit boards where aspiring doctors who are trying to get into their residency program of choice or medical school of choice were talking about their experiences. In doing that, I started learning that here in Canada, it's almost impossible because they prioritize the Canadian students and the American students but not the international students. And at the same time, it was in 2016, 2017 and there was a Muslim ban that had gone into effect in the U.S. At that time, there were a lot of Syrians coming into Canada as a result of that, and also because of the civil war that was happening there. So, I was looking for a character way into a medical drama with that whole experience, and this became the story that I wanted to tell.' In guiding the series, Kay reveals that the creative team sticks to a core theme. 'It's been this way throughout the series that with Transplant, every page, every scenes, every word, every frame, is about how it's never too late to start again. And by holding on to that as a core mantra that can apply to nearly every one of our regular characters, as much as it applies to every patient who comes into the hospital.' Kay also wants to be clear about certain aspects of Transplant as he points out that, 'We're not just telling patient stories here, but what is really happening is that we're telling a story about this guy's past and about what he went through, and how he takes that and uses it as a lens to process what's happening to him in the present. That's really first and foremost what it is. And then I think at the same time, we're having a great amount of drama and fun in the hospital, which I know audiences like.' Along those lines, Kay acknowledges that there are many medical dramas available for viewers to enjoy, but, he believes that Transplant is distinctive in its own way. 'There aren't many medical dramas that are firmly vested in one person's point of view. I mean, I'm a big fan of medical dramas across the board, but I think that we try to adhere to a kind of emotionally grounded, high stakes, relatable tone that people respond to.' He quickly adds, 'I'll also say that we're unique in that we tell a complete story about a refugee who has to redo his medical training. This guy was a fully educated, vetted doctor back in his home country of Syria. Then, there was a civil war in his country, so he comes to Canada, and he has do all his training over again, and that's something that everyone can relate to — having to begin again in some way. What's more universal than that? And that's what our show is about, so if you're interested in that idea, this series is for you.' The two episode premiere of Season 4 of 'Transplant' debuts on Thursday, May 22nd at 8/7c on NBC. Seasons 1-3 are available for streaming on Peacock. Season 4 episodes will be available on Peacock the day after airing on NBC.
The Guardian
19-05-2025
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- The Guardian
The Pitt's breakout star Shabana Azeez loves a confronting role: ‘We want victims to be perfect'
It's a familiar story: the Australian actor who ascends to LA for their international breakout, dizzied by the experience of being a small fish in a vast, alien pond. But this wasn't the case for Adelaide born-and-raised Shabana Azeez who, after making herself known through a string of boundary pushing, budget-poor Australian projects, has now leapt assuredly into the world of The Pitt: an instantly buzzy, hyperreal medical drama from the 'creme de la creme of TV-makers in the world' – the team behind ER and The West Wing. 'I just want to be in things that people have never seen before. I just want to be working with people who have something to say,' says Azeez when we speak over the phone, her words tumbling quickly and with unbridled enthusiasm. Set over the course of one frantic day in an underfunded and rat-ridden Pittsburgh emergency department, The Pitt follows an ensemble – led by veteran actor-producer Noah Wyle as Dr Michael Robinavitch – of doctors, nurses and overeager interns in real time as they endure and innovate against the odds. Season one has just finished airing, capturing legions of fans in a spell of heartbreak, with audiences heralding its humane performances and sensitivity in broaching harrowing subjects. It is, of course, returning for a second outing next year. Azeez shines as polite and precocious intern Victoria Javadi, who radiates hope even after fainting within her first hour on the job. 'We experience healthcare workers as patients, [but] have we had empathy for them in all the ways we could have?' Azeez asks. 'The Pitt is so political.' An understated fan favourite, Javadi goes on to have one of the series' most striking character arcs, as she manages to face her overbearing surgeon mother and eke out brief moments for romance. 'I got the happiest experience that is humanly possible,' says Azeez of working on The Pitt after a surprisingly smooth casting process involving a single self-tape and a nine-minute Zoom call. 'Everyone was telling me that America was going to be crazy, with all these huge personalities.' Reflecting the ethos of the show, where every worker proves to be essential, cast members weren't divided into separate trailers. 'Everyone was equal,' Azeez says. And everyone – including directors and producers – 'came in wearing scrubs'. In their off-time, all the actors decompressed in a dark rec room. 'It was a very Australian experience of making a show – no egos, no fancy bells and whistles.' There are obvious similarities between Javadi's enthusiasm and Azeez's own infectious curiosity. She gushes about the 'bootcamp' that preceded The Pitt, which involved extensive training in suturing methods, intubating dummies and performing real ultrasounds on actors. The avid reception to the show has been a welcome surprise for Azeez. Only a few years ago, becoming an actor seemed like an impossible pipe dream. Idolising dramatic heavyweights such as Saoirse Ronan and Jennifer Lawrence as a teenager, Azeez always wanted to be a performer but the profession was forbidden by her parents. She ended up yearning from the sidelines as an arts administrator in early adulthood, adamant that 'the ship had sailed'. 'At 21, all the actors I was working with … had been acting since they were eight or had gone to drama school,' she says. Soon, she became immersed in Adelaide's grassroots film-making scene. She met now-longtime collaborators Leela Varghese and Emma Hough Hobbs, who cast Azeez in their early short films and would go on to facilitate her 'humbling' and 'rewarding' voice-acting debut in their sci-fi animated comedy Lesbian Space Princess, which premiered at Berlin film festival earlier this year and screens in Australia at Sydney film festival this June. 'I am so glad I'm from Adelaide,' says Azeez. 'I know not many people say that, but to me, because I didn't go to drama school, I really came up making short films with my friends.' Azeez's unimpeachable love of the process also came into play for her feature film debut in 2023's Birdeater, a high-octane psychological thriller about noxious masculinity that quickly garnered international attention. Despite its small budget, Covid disruptions and flooded shooting locations, Azeez describes the film as 'lightning in a bottle'. She plays the suspiciously sedate bride-to-be Irene, who is convinced by her fiance, Louie, to join a bachelor party weekend in an isolated cabin. As the trip becomes a nang and ketamine-fuelled spectacle of paranoia and violence, we witness Louie's increasingly horrific control over Irene. 'Often we want victims to be perfect, and we want perpetrators to be evil,' says Azeez, who sought to crack the mould of survivor representation. 'I really wanted to make [Irene] as invisible as possible in that film, so that no one even noticed she was there. I didn't want to make her funny or charming or light up rooms … because I really wanted you to fall in love with the boys and at the end of the film realise what you've done.' Azeez's approach was informed by on-the-ground research, interviewing everyone she could about coercive control. 'Whenever I explained it, every single woman had a story.' Despite the intensity of Azeez's burgeoning career, she shows no signs of exhaustion. Beyond the 'surreal' reception to her latest venture, she can't wait to get back into her 'bloody scrubs and worn-in Nikes'. It's hardly glamorous – 'but it looks like that from the outside,' she says. 'Maybe that's just how acting works, but I guess I'll learn that in the next few years.' Season two of The Pitt will premiere in 2026. Lesbian Space Princess screens at the Sydney film festival before a national release in September
CBC
16-05-2025
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- CBC
Chelsea Muirhead knows how to play an overworked surgical intern, because she was once a struggling actor
Hold onto your popcorn — and your stethoscope — because the universe has a delightfully quirky sense of humour. Just ask Canadian actor Chelsea Muirhead, who hails from Mississauga, Ont. She was charting a course for the fascinating realm of biomedical science, she tells CBC Arts, when Hollywood came calling. Now, she's trading her lab coat for scrubs with a role on the new Netflix series Pulse. Netflix's first medical procedural drama follows the personal and professional lives of ER residents at Maguire Medical Center in Miami. Muirhead stars as Sophie Chan, a smart medical intern on the quest to become a great surgeon. One month after the series' premiere, the actor is still pinching herself. She calls the role "a dream come true." Muirhead spoke with CBC Arts about Pulse, the fascination with medical dramas and how early morning theatre classes and clown workshops gave her the tools to navigate an acting career. This interview has been edited for length and clarity. CBC Arts: Does it feel surreal to star on a global Netflix series that could be this generation's Grey's Anatomy? Chelsea Muirhead: Well, when you put it like that, I don't think it's fully sunk in yet. It's like holding sand, I can't even fathom, but I'm on a whirlwind. It's a dream come true, and it's already such a gift to be working on material that is so juicy and just so fun to play. The fact that it's being received so well, and to be on such a massive platform, I can't believe it's happening. As the season goes on, we learn more about Sophie. Did you create a backstory for the character? Yeah, parts of it were [showrunners Zoe Robyn and Carlton Cuse's] idea. Like, the fact that she's from Indiana — Churubusco, specifically — and the pageant stuff. Then, for all of the other backstory, I just kind of created it myself. I injected a lot of myself into her. She is like the worst parts of myself. Like, all of the fear, the anxiety, and she's so ambitious. I will do whatever it takes to be great at what I do, and that is Sophie to a tee. But where she, I think, needs to learn a little bit of something — and also for me — is to practice a little bit more trust, to nurture friendships and that maybe work isn't the most important thing in the world. But what is happening in her psychology? Why is she so mean? Why isn't she taking care of herself? There must be a reason. When I read in the breakdown, they're like, "She's exhausted, will do anything to be a great surgeon, but is having a hard time at this hospital." And I know what that feels like. I know what it feels like to be a struggling actor trying to bartend at 3 a.m. and then turn in a self-tape at 9 and then still roll up to work. It's exhausting. In terms of her backstory, a lot of it just came from me and what I am trying to learn right now in my life. A lot of things that I've booked in my career, I feel like that's kind of what's happened: the universe is like, "You're ready to discover this part of yourself now, you're ready to challenge this part of yourself." So that was what Sophie was for me. You are also very much a hometown success story. How did your time at the Ryerson School of Performance (now the School of Performance at Toronto Metropolitan University) help you hone your skills and give you the tools you need to come this far? I definitely think that Ryerson, in a lot of ways, prepared me for the grit of this industry — the just-get-up-and-do-it, if-you-don't-love-this,-get-out mentality. Because when I was in school at Ryerson, it's still a university, but they run it like a conservatory. So I was in school for four years, six days a week from 5:30 a.m. till 1 a.m. Sometimes, I would sleep in the studios just on a prop bed or on someone's floor because I'm like, "I have to be here at 5:30 in the morning so I'll just sleep here." I love being on set, but sometimes, there's the real life of it all, juggling all of that. But that's what you do in school. You gotta be a bartender. You gotta get your elective. And then, when you get out of school, you still gotta keep doing all of those things. It definitely gave me a thick skin. It gave me grit. And it gave me indispensable tools that I still use for acting techniques. Some things I think would have taken me much longer to figure out on set if I didn't have those 10,000 hours in a safe space where I could make mistakes. I could do a Shakespeare workshop and then a clown workshop (where I actually learned the most — to just keep going, to forgive yourself, it's not so serious). I wouldn't have learned that if I didn't go to theatre school. Did working on Pulse give you a better understanding of your own goals that you've set for yourself? I just always want to be climbing. I always want to be growing. I'll still do anything. I'll take any job — almost any job. Almost. I just want to keep doing things that challenge me as an actor, [something] that hopefully challenges the consciousness of the world. That would be really powerful. I think that's the vision that it gave me. Being on platforms like this, I just want to keep expanding and growing. It almost sometimes feels a little bit too big. I think that's the thing that I still haven't processed. It's a little bit scary. I'm still just a little girl from Toronto, you know? What do you think of the fascination with medical dramas? We have quite a few right now. For me, I really do think my fascination with medical dramas is that, of course, there's a lot of action — but it's real. Like, these are real-life superheroes. We're seeing people — patients and doctors — in both their stories. You're seeing human beings at the worst times in their life, sometimes the best. Maybe it's a birth. Maybe it's a death. They're these very, very vulnerable moments that potentially you or I or anybody walking down the street could go through. And you're watching real-life people be superheroes and climb their way out of darkness. I think that's a really powerful thing that is just so close to home. And I think people can relate to that or be inspired by that. Hopefully, it brings a lot of people hope, too.
