
Here's our guide on how to research stocks — and keep track of the ones you own
Here's our Club Mailbag email investingclubmailbag@cnbc.com — so you send your questions directly to Jim Cramer and his team of analysts. We can't offer personal investing advice. We will only consider more general questions about the investment process or stocks in the portfolio or related industries. When Jim Cramer says that investors need to do the homework, what is the homework and where do you find it? -Maxine G. This is a crucial question for all investors to ask. You are correct that we preach "buy and homework," as opposed to the "buy and hold" mantra that many long-term investors tout. In this piece, we'll provide some tips to get you started with the homework, but it's important to remember that the homework never ends. Think of it like investigative journalism. You know there is a story there — in this case, a potential investment opportunity — but the magnitude of the story (or opportunity) isn't going to reveal itself until you've turned over as many stones as possible, and then a few more. Put another way, the homework is not a task that needs to be accomplished, but rather an ongoing journey that requires you to stay on your toes and constantly reconsider your investment thesis as new information is revealed. So, where do you find the homework? In an education article a few years ago , we discussed in great detail five types of information that investors can use to conduct the homework: 1) company filings 2) earnings calls 3) earnings estimates 4) geopolitical and macroeconomic news 5) industry-specific news. The information covered in that article is as relevant today as it was back in 2022, so we'd strongly encourage members to click the above link and go read it — whether it's a refresher for longtime members, or for the first time for those who have joined the Club more recently. Rather than rehash everything we covered in that piece, we wanted to use this space to highlight a few additional tools for members to consider because even our own homework process has evolved since we wrote it. One we've recently become fans of is the smartphone app called Quartr , which provides a convenient location to listen to earnings calls and Wall Street conferences, as well as the ability to read transcripts in real-time. It also provides analyst estimates across a few different metrics, which, as mentioned above, is an important part of the homework process. On the app, you're able to "follow" the companies in your portfolio and their close competitors, so all their activities are in one place. We also think it's important to consider podcasts as a source of investment information. While we won't highlight any one specific podcast — there are so many, and arguably more important than the podcast host itself is the guest — we view them as great sources of information because the interviews tend to be in a long, free-flowing format compared with what you might get elsewhere. This gives industry experts and/or executives the opportunity to delve deeper than they may be able to in other settings, which gives us a deeper understanding of the topic or company in question. A recent example where this helped us was when Club holding Meta Platforms announced a collaboration with the defense startup Anduril to develop headsets for the U.S. Army. The day of that announcement, we saw that Anduril founder and CEO Palmer Luckey appeared on a podcast where he talked extensively about its work with Meta, providing background on their relationship and their ambitions. It helped shape our understanding, and we even quoted what Luckey said in our analysis article the next day . When evaluating an investment opportunity or keeping tabs on the stock once it's in your portfolio, you'll want to do more than read the news and analyze the qualitative aspects of the investment. It is also important to crunch some numbers to determine the company's financial health and valuation. We previously put together a five-part series on how to analyze an earnings report . In a separate story, we provided three ways to evaluate a company's debt level to judge the riskiness of buying its stock. We've done a few explainers on valuation in the past, too. For example, we have discussed the two primary ways that investors value stocks and the role that interest rates play in both. We have also explained how to calculate your own price-to-earnings (PE) and price-to-earnings-growth (PEG) ratios . And relatedly, we more recently did a deeper dive into the importance of a PEG ratio . For many investors, layering in some technical analysis is also part of their investment process — though, as we've noted in the past, our primary focus is on the business fundamentals. While we may take a position when the fundamentals are strong and the technicals are weak, we would never look to invest in a company in which the fundamentals are lacking, no matter the technical setup. In our view, technical analysis works until it doesn't, whereas fundamental analysis works until the fundamentals change — and if you're doing the homework, you'll know when that happens. We've provided some technical analysis in the past . If you go back and revisit that article, keep in mind that the technical setup is always changing. So, at this point, think more about the lessons and the tools used in that piece, rather than keying into any level that may have come up on those charts, which represent only a snapshot in time. Finally, if you're considering an investment because of its dividend yield, you'll want to be sure that the payout is actually sustainable. We explained how to do that in a previous story. In the end, the homework is a continuous process; Jim's recommendation is one hour of homework per week for each stock you own. While we've provided a number of useful tools and considerations here — and in the articles linked throughout this commentary — investors can also be rewarded for constantly thinking outside the box and looking for information in every possible place it may be available. This includes simply walking into a location of the company you're interested in and asking some questions, which has become known as the " scuttlebutt " method. The concept was popularized by Philip Fisher's book "Common Stocks and Uncommon Profits," and it's all about seeing the operations in real life, speaking with store employees, managers, customers, suppliers, competitors, and so on. (Jim Cramer's Charitable Trust is long META. See here for a full list of the stocks.) As a subscriber to the CNBC Investing Club with Jim Cramer, you will receive a trade alert before Jim makes a trade. Jim waits 45 minutes after sending a trade alert before buying or selling a stock in his charitable trust's portfolio. If Jim has talked about a stock on CNBC TV, he waits 72 hours after issuing the trade alert before executing the trade. THE ABOVE INVESTING CLUB INFORMATION IS SUBJECT TO OUR TERMS AND CONDITIONS AND PRIVACY POLICY , TOGETHER WITH OUR DISCLAIMER . NO FIDUCIARY OBLIGATION OR DUTY EXISTS, OR IS CREATED, BY VIRTUE OF YOUR RECEIPT OF ANY INFORMATION PROVIDED IN CONNECTION WITH THE INVESTING CLUB. NO SPECIFIC OUTCOME OR PROFIT IS GUARANTEED.

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Every weekday, the CNBC Investing Club with Jim Cramer releases the Homestretch — an actionable afternoon update, just in time for the last hour of trading on Wall Street. Markets: The S & P 500 was modestly lower Friday as investors mull over the latest news from the Israel-Iran conflict and consider the Federal Reserve's next monetary policy move. Fed Governor Christopher Waller said that policymakers could lower interest rates as early as July. "That would be my view, whether the committee would go along with it or not," Waller told CNBC Friday morning. Meanwhile, shares of chip stocks — including Club holdings Broadcom and Nvidia — were under pressure after a Wall Street Journal report indicated that the U.S. may revoke waivers that major semiconductor manufacturers rely on to use American technology in China. Elsewhere on the geopolitical front, top European diplomats were set to hold talks with Iranian officials in Geneva on Friday. 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And so, they're coming to casual dining more," said Darden CEO Rick Cardenas "We're seeing that across our brands and some of the industry. And so, without commenting on what's happened in other places, we think that's a big part of it. Consumers want to go out and spend their hard-earned money. And we think we're taking some wallet share from fast food and fast casual." Added Darden CFO Raj Vennam: "Pretty much every household income is growing in casual dining except for the ones below $50,000." For its full-year fiscal 2026, Darden expects total inflation in the range of 2.5% to 3% — including both labor and commodities like food — and same-store sales between 2% and 3.5%. Executives also doubled down on their commitment to affordability, saying they expect menu price hikes this fiscal year will "still likely be below total inflation." In general, what we heard from Darden, particularly on the overall consumer interest in casual dining, bodes well for Texas Roadhouse. 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From an investment perspective, it would be a clear-cut positive for Meta's stock if its main rival in the U.S. went dark — forcing its users and advertisers to redirect their attention and dollars elsewhere. But, at this point, we're not holding our breath for it to happen, given Trump's stated desire to "save it." Meta's actions suggest that CEO Mark Zuckerberg isn't betting on that happening, either. Instead, the Facebook and Instagram parent is putting its full financial force behind its AI investments to keep attracting and retaining users, and to further improve revenue and profits in its core advertising business. As we recently wrote , the AI-first tech giant keeps improving its AI tools for advertisers to create personalized ads with diverse text, backgrounds and images at a low cost. To stay ahead, Zuckerberg is on the hunt for top AI talent. CNBC reported Thursday that Meta is planning to hire AI investors Daniel Gross and Nat Friedman and partially buy out their venture capital fund, NFDG, which has invested in AI startups like Perplexity. Thursday's news comes after Meta recently invested $14.8 billion for a 49% stake in data-labeling company Scale AI. And, according to a Bloomberg News report Friday , Meta held discussions with Perplexity about a potential takeover before making its Scale AI offer. Ultimately, Meta's AI advancements and top experts in the field will allow it to better compete should TikTok remain as a competitor in the U.S. Meta stock is down about 1.6% Friday, to roughly $684 per share. It's up around 17% year to date. Up next: Starting after the close Friday and continuing into next week, Club name Eli Lilly will be presenting a slew of trial data at the American Diabetes Association's annual conference. Meanwhile, there are no Club holdings reporting earnings next week, though we'll be keeping an eye on results from the likes of FedEx and Micron . KB Home also has earnings in what will be a busy week of housing news, most notably the National Association of Realtors' existing home sales report on Monday morning. The biggest economic event of the week is the Fed's preferred inflation gauge, the personal consumption expenditures (PCE) index, which is due out Friday morning. (See here for a full list of the stocks in Jim Cramer's Charitable Trust.) As a subscriber to the CNBC Investing Club with Jim Cramer, you will receive a trade alert before Jim makes a trade. Jim waits 45 minutes after sending a trade alert before buying or selling a stock in his charitable trust's portfolio. If Jim has talked about a stock on CNBC TV, he waits 72 hours after issuing the trade alert before executing the trade. THE ABOVE INVESTING CLUB INFORMATION IS SUBJECT TO OUR TERMS AND CONDITIONS AND PRIVACY POLICY , TOGETHER WITH OUR DISCLAIMER . NO FIDUCIARY OBLIGATION OR DUTY EXISTS, OR IS CREATED, BY VIRTUE OF YOUR RECEIPT OF ANY INFORMATION PROVIDED IN CONNECTION WITH THE INVESTING CLUB. NO SPECIFIC OUTCOME OR PROFIT IS GUARANTEED.


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Here's our guide on how to research stocks — and keep track of the ones you own
Here's our Club Mailbag email investingclubmailbag@ — so you send your questions directly to Jim Cramer and his team of analysts. We can't offer personal investing advice. We will only consider more general questions about the investment process or stocks in the portfolio or related industries. When Jim Cramer says that investors need to do the homework, what is the homework and where do you find it? -Maxine G. This is a crucial question for all investors to ask. You are correct that we preach "buy and homework," as opposed to the "buy and hold" mantra that many long-term investors tout. In this piece, we'll provide some tips to get you started with the homework, but it's important to remember that the homework never ends. Think of it like investigative journalism. You know there is a story there — in this case, a potential investment opportunity — but the magnitude of the story (or opportunity) isn't going to reveal itself until you've turned over as many stones as possible, and then a few more. Put another way, the homework is not a task that needs to be accomplished, but rather an ongoing journey that requires you to stay on your toes and constantly reconsider your investment thesis as new information is revealed. So, where do you find the homework? In an education article a few years ago , we discussed in great detail five types of information that investors can use to conduct the homework: 1) company filings 2) earnings calls 3) earnings estimates 4) geopolitical and macroeconomic news 5) industry-specific news. The information covered in that article is as relevant today as it was back in 2022, so we'd strongly encourage members to click the above link and go read it — whether it's a refresher for longtime members, or for the first time for those who have joined the Club more recently. Rather than rehash everything we covered in that piece, we wanted to use this space to highlight a few additional tools for members to consider because even our own homework process has evolved since we wrote it. One we've recently become fans of is the smartphone app called Quartr , which provides a convenient location to listen to earnings calls and Wall Street conferences, as well as the ability to read transcripts in real-time. It also provides analyst estimates across a few different metrics, which, as mentioned above, is an important part of the homework process. On the app, you're able to "follow" the companies in your portfolio and their close competitors, so all their activities are in one place. We also think it's important to consider podcasts as a source of investment information. While we won't highlight any one specific podcast — there are so many, and arguably more important than the podcast host itself is the guest — we view them as great sources of information because the interviews tend to be in a long, free-flowing format compared with what you might get elsewhere. This gives industry experts and/or executives the opportunity to delve deeper than they may be able to in other settings, which gives us a deeper understanding of the topic or company in question. A recent example where this helped us was when Club holding Meta Platforms announced a collaboration with the defense startup Anduril to develop headsets for the U.S. Army. The day of that announcement, we saw that Anduril founder and CEO Palmer Luckey appeared on a podcast where he talked extensively about its work with Meta, providing background on their relationship and their ambitions. It helped shape our understanding, and we even quoted what Luckey said in our analysis article the next day . When evaluating an investment opportunity or keeping tabs on the stock once it's in your portfolio, you'll want to do more than read the news and analyze the qualitative aspects of the investment. It is also important to crunch some numbers to determine the company's financial health and valuation. We previously put together a five-part series on how to analyze an earnings report . In a separate story, we provided three ways to evaluate a company's debt level to judge the riskiness of buying its stock. We've done a few explainers on valuation in the past, too. For example, we have discussed the two primary ways that investors value stocks and the role that interest rates play in both. We have also explained how to calculate your own price-to-earnings (PE) and price-to-earnings-growth (PEG) ratios . And relatedly, we more recently did a deeper dive into the importance of a PEG ratio . For many investors, layering in some technical analysis is also part of their investment process — though, as we've noted in the past, our primary focus is on the business fundamentals. While we may take a position when the fundamentals are strong and the technicals are weak, we would never look to invest in a company in which the fundamentals are lacking, no matter the technical setup. In our view, technical analysis works until it doesn't, whereas fundamental analysis works until the fundamentals change — and if you're doing the homework, you'll know when that happens. We've provided some technical analysis in the past . If you go back and revisit that article, keep in mind that the technical setup is always changing. So, at this point, think more about the lessons and the tools used in that piece, rather than keying into any level that may have come up on those charts, which represent only a snapshot in time. Finally, if you're considering an investment because of its dividend yield, you'll want to be sure that the payout is actually sustainable. We explained how to do that in a previous story. In the end, the homework is a continuous process; Jim's recommendation is one hour of homework per week for each stock you own. While we've provided a number of useful tools and considerations here — and in the articles linked throughout this commentary — investors can also be rewarded for constantly thinking outside the box and looking for information in every possible place it may be available. This includes simply walking into a location of the company you're interested in and asking some questions, which has become known as the " scuttlebutt " method. The concept was popularized by Philip Fisher's book "Common Stocks and Uncommon Profits," and it's all about seeing the operations in real life, speaking with store employees, managers, customers, suppliers, competitors, and so on. (Jim Cramer's Charitable Trust is long META. See here for a full list of the stocks.) As a subscriber to the CNBC Investing Club with Jim Cramer, you will receive a trade alert before Jim makes a trade. Jim waits 45 minutes after sending a trade alert before buying or selling a stock in his charitable trust's portfolio. If Jim has talked about a stock on CNBC TV, he waits 72 hours after issuing the trade alert before executing the trade. THE ABOVE INVESTING CLUB INFORMATION IS SUBJECT TO OUR TERMS AND CONDITIONS AND PRIVACY POLICY , TOGETHER WITH OUR DISCLAIMER . NO FIDUCIARY OBLIGATION OR DUTY EXISTS, OR IS CREATED, BY VIRTUE OF YOUR RECEIPT OF ANY INFORMATION PROVIDED IN CONNECTION WITH THE INVESTING CLUB. NO SPECIFIC OUTCOME OR PROFIT IS GUARANTEED.


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CNBC Transcript: CNBC Exclusive: Federal Reserve Governor Christopher Waller Speaks with CNBC's Steve Liesman on 'Squawk Box' Today
WHEN: Today, Friday, June 20, 2025 WHERE: CNBC's "Squawk Box" Following is the unofficial transcript of a CNBC EXCLUSIVE interview with Federal Reserve Governor Christopher Waller on CNBC's "Squawk Box" (M-F, 6AM-9AM ET) today, Friday, June 20. Following is a link to the video on All references must be sourced to CNBC. STEVE LIESMAN: I'm pleased to bring in Fed Governor Christopher Waller. He is joining us this morning from Washington. Good morning, Governor Waller. GOVERNOR CHRISTOPHER WALLER: Morning, Steve. Thanks for having me on. LIESMAN: Thanks for joining us. I just want to begin. Big debate, and you can see it in the outlook for rates from the summer of economic projections. Where do you stand in this debate right now over how much concern we all should have over coming potential inflation from tariffs? WALLER: Steve, you know, as I've been saying for probably a year, I think the important thing for central banks to do is to look through tariff effects on inflation. This is a long standing view going back 40,50, years. So any tariff inflation we should see, and I've given various estimates that I don't think it's going to be that big, and we should just look through it in terms of setting policy, and look at the kind of underlying trend of inflation. And right now, the data the last few months has been showing that trend inflation is looking pretty good, even on a 12 month basis. So I've labeled these good news rate cuts, when if inflation comes down to target, we can actually bring rates down. I've been saying this since about November of 23. So I think we're in that position that we could do this and as early as July. LIESMAN: You think you could cut rates as early as July? WALLER: Well, I think that would be my view, whether the committee would go along with it or not, but I think we are in the position that the data is good. GDP growth is going to be near target, our long run target in the first half of this year. Unemployment is at our long run target. Inflation is running very close to target. Yet, we're 125 to 150 basis points above where the median long run neutral policy ratio. So I think we've got room to bring it down, and then we can kind of see what happens with inflation. If it got that really bad, and people got very nervous, you could just pause. But I think we're in a good spot right now for talking about bringing the rate down. LIESMAN: Would you want to begin a process of bringing rates down by 125 to 150 basis points now? WALLER: No. I think you'd want to start slow and bring them down, just to make sure that there's no big surprises. But start the process. That's the key thing. We can start the process of bringing rates down, and then if there's some big shock due to maybe the Middle East conflict, we can pause. You know, that's not – we paused back in January. We've been on pause for six months to wait see. And so far, the data has been fine. There hasn't been any reason to, in my view – I shouldn't speak – I don't think the committee or the chair, but I don't think we need to wait much longer, because even if the tariffs come in later, the impacts are still the same. It should be a one off level effect and not cause persistent inflation. LIESMAN: So let's talk about this, I guess, difference of opinion with some on the committee. Obviously, the SEP showed that the forecast showed that seven members don't want to cut rates at all. What is the urgency right now in your mind to cut interest rates? Why wouldn't you want to just wait and see what the inflation – what happens with tariffs and inflation in the coming months before you started cutting interest rates? WALLER: Right, so we've been on pause for six months thinking that there was going to be a big tariff shock to inflation. We haven't seen it. We follow the data. That is what we do. We look at the data and we should be basing policy based on the data. And as I said, if you look forward to if you think this inflation is going to hit in August or September, it doesn't matter. It's the same impact. It's just a matter of timing. And I've been arguing since a year ago that central banks should be looking through this. This has been debated for 50 years in central banking, and the standard rule of thumb is, you look through these types of price shocks. And that's what I think I'm arguing that's what we should do. And so if that's the case, start moving on cutting the policy rate. LIESMAN: How could you be so confident Governor Waller, that a rise in prices from tariffs won't spill over into other prices and cause a broader inflation problem? WALLER: Correct, and I think this is a valid concern of my colleagues often have about persistence increasing from this one time price effect. And as I said, if you go back over the last 50 years, this was always the concern that central banks had when there was an exchange rate shock, an oil shock, a shock to the value added tax. And the answer was, well, but the tariffs a one time thing, or whatever the shock is, but then workers will try to increase their wage demands to make up for the higher prices. And that was always the source of the second round effects. But I just don't see that happening. Now, I gave a speech in Korea a couple weeks ago where I laid out why I don't think this persistence will happen. Mainly, the labor market is okay, but it's not strong like it was in 2022. So if you were to walk in today and you think inflation is going to be 6 or 7% your employer is going to show you the door. They're not going to give you this huge wage increase to make up for tariffs that aren't even showing up yet. So I don't think that this wage mechanism is going to be around to cause these second round effects. And that's always the standard channel for generating persistence. I just don't think it's going to be there. LIESMAN: Do you have concerns now for the labor market? We just talked about the Philly Fed being negative – employment. You've had this modest rise in jobless claims, and, of course, something of a step down, along with recent revisions downward to the employment levels. Do you have concerns for the job market? WALLER: Yeah, I'm watching. I mean, it's solid. It's been kind of amazing. The unemployment rate has stayed right around 4.2 to 4.3 for a year, just hardly moving. But we are starting to see things like, if you look at the there was a story in The Wall Street Journal earlier this week that the unemployment rate for new graduates is at a 20 or 25 year high. College graduates are not finding jobs. Their unemployment rate is 7% and pre pandemic, it was 5. So it's that kind of data that's starting to make me a little worried. We're seeing job creation coming down. We're seeing a lot of things like you just said with the Philly Fed that are suggesting that maybe the labor market is starting to soften more than we might want it to. And so in my view, if you're starting to worry about the downside risk to the labor market, move now don't wait. People love to talk about long and variable lags. Why do we want to wait until we actually see it crash before we start cutting rates? So I'm all in favor of saying maybe we should start thinking about cutting the policy rate at the next meeting, because we don't want to wait until the job market tanks before we start cutting the policy rate. LIESMAN: At the same time, what's your forecast for how tariffs affect the inflation rate? It looked like there was some impact from the tariffs in the May report. They were offset by other factors that seem to go negative. How much do you think tariffs will add to the CPI or the PCE, which you follow? WALLER: Yeah. So, I mean, I think, Steve, you've said this many times, there's some things that are going to go up because the tariffs, but there's other things that are going to tend to offset it. That's why you can't just look at one category of goods and say, Oh, that's driving everything. And I think that's what surprised everybody in these last inflation reports. And I think that kind of thing will just continue. In terms of inflation, I've long argued that if you had a – if the effective tariff got down through negotiations to like, 1% -- 10%, 10% imports make up 10% of the price index. So a 10% tariff on 10% of the goods is only a 1% increase in the total price level, and that's if it's completely passed through. We already know that this is not being completely passed through. As Chair Powell was talking about, actually, in his press conference, everybody has to eat a little bit of the pain from the tariffs and so not all of this is going to get passed through. So you might see the price and level going up three tenths to half a percent, but that's it. It's not going to cause persistent inflation. And every model I've seen from private sector forecast rate everything shows by the middle to end of next year, the inflation rate comes right back down. It's a one time level effect. LIESMAN: Chris, which is what I used to call you when you were the – WALLER: You can call me Chris. LIESMAN: Chris. Governor Waller. Chris, all right, whatever. So the President said in a tweet over the weekend that the Fed board is complicit in costing the U.S. government hundreds of billions of dollars by keeping rates too high. I want to know if you want to comment on what the President said, but also on this notion of whether the Fed – should it take into account the fiscal cost of servicing the debt by where it sets interest rate policy? WALLER: Our mandate from Congress tells a story about unemployment and price stability, and that's what we're doing. It does not tell us to provide cheap financing to the U.S. government. That is really the job of Congress and the Treasury to make sure you have a fiscal situation that's sustainable, that will bring the deficits down and that will put downward pressure on interest rates all by itself. So that's the most important and most effective way to get deficit costs or financing costs down. It's not from what I can do with the short term overnight interest rate. That's not what's driving the cost for the financing the deficit. So one, it's not our job. Two, there are other means that you should be worried about getting that done, and we're kind of a distant third in terms of having any impact. LIESMAN: Chris, Governor Waller, thank you for joining us this morning. We'll see you again soon. WALLER: All right. Thanks, Steve.