Will Kellen Moore and the Saints improve on last season?
Jason Fitz, Charles Robinson, and Frank Schwab discuss the offseason for the New Orleans Saints and where they stand in comparison to 12 months ago.
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The Saints, over under 5.5 wins.
They went 5 and 12 last year.
Today, right now, see, Rob, are you rise, repeat, or retreat compared to how you felt a year ago today on the Saints.
Repeat, what, 5 and 12?
I think they could go 5 and 12 again.
I think, I think it's more repeat.
I look, I don't like the quarterback situation.
Obviously, Derek Carr retires, uh, Tyler Sho is, it appears is gonna be your starting quarterback there, um.
I, I just don't have a lot of faith and, and, I mean, Chris Olave, like, where's his health at?
Um, can he come back and, and play at, you know, the top level that we've seen in the past?
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That's a big if.
The backfield, I think is a huge question mark.
Um, it's, it's just to me again, I, I wanna keep this brief.
Um, I, I feel like it all is gonna derive from having to stick a, you know, a, a quarterback in there who's a rookie, granted, well, he's 25, he's not like he's a You know, he's played a ton of football at 77 seasons.
So, um, but again, yeah, I don't, I, I don't feel great about the Saints, and I think a lot of it just has to do with what's going on in quarterback.
Yeah, I, I think this is a big time retreat for me.
I think this could be the worst team in the NFL.
I mean, when you look at, you look at everything, there's a reason they did not get one primetime game this year because the NFL does not want us to watch the New Orleans Saints and for good reason.
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I think this, this roster is a lot older than you think.
The only true blue chip player they have under the age of 28 is Chris Olave, who you just talked about, has concussion issues.
I, I just don't see any good reason to, to back the Saints this year.
They're, they're aging in a lot of key spots.
That there's not a lot of young talent coming through.
They really need to hit the reset button.
They've been striving for mediocrity so long.
That's why I really didn't like the Tyler Shuck pick, because the worst possible scenario for the New Orleans Saints is you play Tyler Shuck, and he's just good enough that instead of winning 2 games this year, getting the first pick of the draft and say, come on home, Arch Manning.
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Well, you win like 5 games and you're, you don't have a shot at the quarterback you want because this New Orleans Saints team needs something.
happen.
They, they keep going about their business the same exact way, and they just keep getting worse and worse and worse, and their ceiling is like absolute positive ceiling is like 8 or 9 wins, tops.
And what are you doing?
You're just spinning your wheels.
So I, I think the Saints are going to bottom out this year.
I think they're gonna be really, really, really bad.
I think they're gonna get one of the top 3 picks.
They're gonna get that quarterback in next year's draft, whether it's Archer or somebody else, and then you can kind of start to say, all right, we need a new era of New Orleans Saints football.
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Yeah, I, I retreat on the Saints.
I think they, they are gonna be the worst, but the age and the chaos in me, this is how I wanted to go down.
I want everybody to sit there and all year put the, the bricks together of Arch to the Saints, only to have the Saints get the first overall pick.
Archie looks at it and says, not a great situation around the franchise right now.
Let's stay back for another year in Texas.
And then all of a sudden, uh, there's no Arch.
Can you imagine Archie Manning like orchestrating that?
It's like, I don't want my kid to play over the Saints.
Look what happened to me.
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