John Swinney admits his wife is 'struggling a bit' as he opens up on balancing family life with politics
John Swinney has spoken of the "enormous pressure" of balancing a political career with family life as he revealed his wife was "struggling a bit" with her illness.
The First Minister was appearing at an Edinburgh Fringe show tonight where he was asked for his reaction to the shock announcement that Kate Forbes will stand down from Holyrood next year.
Swinney, who succeeded Humza Yousaf as SNP leader in April last year, said he was "very sorry" the Deputy First Minister had chosen to quit frontline politics - but said he "totally understood" her situation.
Forbes has a young daughter with husband Ali MacLennan, as well as three older step-children. In an open letter to Swinney on Monday, the SNP minister said she did not want to "miss any more of the precious early years of family life".
Swinney is married to the well-known BBC journalist Elizabeth Quigley, who has multiple sclerosis (MS). The First Minister has previously spoken of how his wife had been through a "very, very rough time" in the month before Yousaf abruptly departed Bute House in 2024.
Speaking with event host Brian Taylor, the SNP leader agreed when asked if he had felt "anxiety" over his wife's illness around the time he launched his leadership bid last year. Swinney had previously indicated he was retiring from the Government and returning to the backbenches after Nicola Sturgeon quit as first minister in 2023.
"Yes I did, and we've both been very open about it," he told Taylor. "I thought I'd asked too much of my family. And I felt my wife needed her husband at her side - I'm not sure she agrees - but I kind of felt I should be a bit closer.
"So when things changed, and the gravity of the situation facing my party became clear in late April 2024, we had to talk long and hard how we were going to manage. And we manage with the help and support of friends locally, and by just working together."
Swinney continued: "A month before Humza Yousaf stood down, I couldn't have done it. I would have had to say no. Elizabeth was not doing well at that time. And we've just got a period just now where things are not too good, to be honest. We're struggling a bit at home just now."
The First Minister added he would be returning to his family home tonight despite having commitments in the Capital tomorrow.
On the subject of balancing politics with family life, he said: "There are enormous pressures."
Speaking to the Times in May, Swinney previously revealed he would have rejected the chance to become Scotland's first minister weeks before the opportunity arose because of his wife's ill health and the 'fragility of the situation at home'.
Quigley, 53, had made a partial recovery when, on April 29 last year, Yousaf finally decided to stand down as SNP leader and first minister, but Swinney admitted he 'spent a sleepless night' before throwing his hat in the ring and later felt guilty about the decision.
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