Russian and Turkish foreign ministers discuss Ukraine in Türkiye's Antalya
Turkish Foreign Minister Hakan Fidan and Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov have discussed efforts to secure a ceasefire in the Russo-Ukrainian war during their meeting in Türkiye on Saturday 12 April.
Source: Turkish newspaper Daily Sabah, citing a Turkish diplomatic source, as reported by European Pravda
Details: Fidan and Lavrov also discussed energy cooperation and bilateral relations during a meeting on the sidelines of the Antalya Diplomatic Forum in southern Türkiye, the source said.
They also discussed current events in Syria and the situation in Gaza.
Ankara has consistently defended Ukraine's territorial integrity since the start of the Russian invasion in 2022. However, it also maintains good ties with Russia and remains the only NATO member that has not joined sanctions against Moscow.
Türkiye supports a diplomatic solution to the Ukraine-Russia war. Ankara has repeatedly proposed itself as a venue for peace talks.
The three-day forum, which began on Friday in the southern Turkish city of Antalya, is devoted to the theme of Reclaiming Diplomacy in a Fragmented World.
Background:
Fidan recently stated that Türkiye is ready to join any new European security architecture if NATO collapses.
Before that, the Turkish Ministry of Defence noted that the country was ready to deploy troops to Ukraine "if necessary" to ensure peace.
Earlier, media reports suggested that Ankara, in discussions with representatives from both Ukraine and Russia, expressed its willingness to consider deploying its military on Ukrainian soil as part of a peacekeeping force.
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