Virgin Island's male sex surrogate reveals what REALLY happens when he's not attracted to a client - but has to perform in bed

Daily Mail​

22-05-2025

Virgin Island's male sex surrogate has revealed what really happens when he's not attracted to a client - but has to perform in bed.
Andre Lazarus and Kat Slade sat down with Ben Shephard and Cat Deeley on Thursday's instalment of This Morning.
The pair star on Channel 4 's shocking new show which sees sexologists Dr Danielle Harel and Celeste Hirschman and their team, guide a group of 12 virgins on a unique course.
Since launching earlier this month, viewers have seen the contributors, all aged between 22 and 30 years old, overcome a range of emotional hurdles to take their first steps towards sex and intimacy.
Sessions with a surrogate partner is one of the approaches some of the contributors get involved in, and Andre opened up more about the dynamics of the relationship.
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'Intimacy does involve attraction, physically there has to be something that happens to a man if it's going to go further as well, how do you manage that Andre if you've got a client that perhaps you aren't sexually attracted to but wants to take that further?' Ben asked.
Andre, who has been a surrogate partner for four years, said: 'Physically, I would say that as a man we don't have to have all of our body parts working in order to form intimate connection or in order to have physical intimacy be something that feels good in our body.'
The Channel 4 star went on to explain how he felt it was a 'common misconception'.
He went on: 'Really what we can do is tune into our body and say I'm enjoying touch, I'm enjoying kissing, I'm enjoying hugging and that can be an intimate moment and then that takes us out of our head which allows the rest of our body to come online.'
During the conversation, Cat asked how they 'keep things separate'.
Kat divulged that they don't 'differentiate emotions and the physical side of things'.
She explained: 'We don't try to keep them separate, we really want all of that to be a part of the process I mean it wouldn't really help people to learn the physical without really being in it emotionally, so we welcome all of it.'
Sexologists Danielle and Celeste previously discussed surrogate partnership with MailOnline.
Celeste describes the relationship between the client and surrogate as 'authentic' and shared how the dynamic can reflect what would happen in a 'real relationships', including the possibility of 'performance problems' from either the surrogate or client.
'It is really an authentic relationship,' she explained. 'So one thing that can happen in a relationship is that someone has performance problems, and so they would just communicate about it and say, oh, you know, something's not working here. Let's take a break. Let's try again.'
The sexologist added: 'That authenticity is what actually prepares people to have real relationships out in the world.
'So it's not just like trying to force something and a lot of times surrogates do work with people who have pretty significant dysfunctions, and so they need to work with those kinds of things, both in their clients and if it comes up in themselves as well.'
There's a 'triadic relationship' between the client, surrogate and a separate therapist to help tackle issues, including if the client develops feelings.
Celeste explained: 'They have the therapist built into the relationship, because if feelings become developed, the therapist is available to talk the client through whatever feelings that they have around it.'
She added: 'The therapist is there to keep that the container and the boundaries.'
Danielle expressed that on the show, the boundaries in the relationship were clear between the contributors and surrogates.
While Tuesday's instalment of the Channel 4 show took a racy turn when Kat straddled accountant Dave for a steamy kiss in bid to conquer his 'fear of genitals touching'.
Speaking to the camera, Dave confessed: 'I don't have the confidence to get to know someone.
'In an intimate moment I'm scared about what they are going to think about my body and what I am like.
'I've got to start living my life properly.'
The voice over explains: 'Getting naked in the work shop was a huge step for Dave. But does it mean he's ready to take his therapy to the next level?'
Kat tells Dave: 'My suggestion would be to practice touch and giving feed back.'
A nervous Dave replies: 'Okay.'
The pair get closer to each other on the sofa and she tells him: 'I'll have you to start with my arm...'
Dave then strokes the top of her shoulder, but he nervously says: 'I'll try. Long and stuff.'
Kat asks Dave: 'Can you look at me while you do it?'
Dave responds: 'Yeah I can.'
The voice over explains: 'Building up to sex to a surrogate partner Kat is a possibility if Dave can master the basics and form a connection.'
While lying down, Dave asks her: 'Am I okay to try and sort of go on top?'
As he gets on top of her, Kat tells him: 'And you can kiss too, with your mouth if you want.'
After locking lips for one second, Dave tells her: 'I don't feel like this is the best position.
'I don't like the way my arm is. '
Kat asks him: 'Are you self conscious about our genitals touching each other? Is that why you're in that position?'
She continues: 'Does that make you uncomfortable?'
A truthful Dave says: 'Subconsciously, yeah.'
So Kat asks if he wants to try again with her on top in stead, to which he was down to try.
'Can you go on top?' Dave asks, to which she tells him: 'Absolutely.'
'Yeah, I'm staying still, aren't I?' Dave replies.